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6 Mar 2007
Article highlights from CHINA DAILY of the National News section. 12-12-2003

Ufos. flying saucers and ET conjure up images from Hollywood flims and blurred photos in tabloid newspapers. But a number of true beleivers in China, many of them highly educated, see merit in exploring ufos and alien encounters scientifically.

Meng Zhaoguo a 35 yr old tree grower from Wuchang City in Heilongjiang Province can still vividly describe the Steven Spieberg -type senario he claims to of witnessed nearly ten years ago: (1977) As he sat in a huge white, gleaming spaceship, a tall creature with a large head and eyes like light bulbs and clad in a seamless rubber suit perched on a metal sheet that hovered in the air. In a metalic-tinged voice, this interplanetary visitor communicated with the man via a television -like screen, predicting a collision between a comet and Jupiter.

As sensational as it sounds, Meng insists he was taken aboard the ship a month after being shocked by some waves emitted by a silver-coloured object on a mountain he and some other villagers attempted to appraoch in June 1994.

Such accounts have served to shroud ufology...in a kind of mysticism..often used when referring to..

The Chinese first learned about UFOS in 1978, when leading State newspaper the People's Daily ran an article about the phenomenon. Although many accounts of UFO sightings have appeared in the media in the ensuing two decades, the voices of doubt are as strong as the people's curiosity.

Despite the cynicism, more than 40 ufology associations have registered across the country,some 5000 beleivers not including the academics interested in UFOS..(90 percent of Dalian UFO Society for instance have college degrees--Beijing Ufo Society is ran by one of the top Chinese Officals--foot note.) With no State funding and little sponership , the comunity feels discrimated against and excluded from the main stream circles.. was at that time this article written..

Sceptics main demand seems simple enough, but satisfying it is harder: Show me the evidence. A photo or video footage , which can be easly favricated,is not sufficent. They want to see a real object, a flying saucer, something of a mission impossible for ufogists.

Describing ufologist as Romantics, Sima Nan, a popular science writer and a leading figure in the country's fight against pseudo science says the most important thing in scientific research is to base a study on concrete evidience and advoid subjectivism...those having ufo encounters all lack hard evidence to prove their claims....

Ufologists, however , believe their research to be significant as the country's space exploration program, even if it is not being taken seriously.If space exploration includes the search for alien civilzations, they argue UFO research can serve to suppliment it.

Tian Daojun, a professor at the Nanjing University of Aviation and Aeronautics, says the human fantasty is not totally meaningless in scientific research, as some UFO sceptics assume, pointing out that fanciful notions of human beings eventually put a man on the moon.

The numerous UFO sightings reported should never be ignored or denied. Tian says. Any information gleaned about the way a spacecraft functions might serve to upgrade scientific research , resulting in breakthroughs in aviation and aeronautics technology on Earth.

But what upsets UFO researchers the most is the suggestion that UFOs are nothing but mythology and ufology is just a new form of pseudo-science.

Ji Jianmin, a ufo researcher in Feixiang Country in norhtern China's Hebel Province, dismisses such assertions as too opinionated and unfriendly to UFO researchers and critiicizes detractors for their own unscientific approach to the subject. Ji a former high school art teacher ...became interested in UFs in the 80's. He firmly believes in the existence of civilizations on other planets as well as the potetential for a kind of psychic connection between residents of earth and aliens.....

.....The controversy surrounding UFOs is very natural, so long as each side does not force its ideas on the other, according Wu Jialu, a Shanghai aircraft expert.

..Wu .. Even within the UFO community , ufologists differ in their approaches to research, although they all consdier alien spacecraft and intelligence to be at the very heart of their research.

One school tends to focus on the more practical aspects. Some like Wu, expect to get inspiration by complemplating the mechanics of alien spacecraft as a means of improving Earth aircraft or even spaceships. Others, including Su Congbo, a seismologist in Taiyuan , captial of north China's Shanxi Province, are interested in finding out whether there is a connection between UFOs and natuaral phenomena such as earthquakes.

Beijing based ufologist Zhang Jingping stands for another school of thought in his persistent attempts to prove the existence not only of UFOs but of alien civilizations.

Zhang considers ufology his real career...A graduate of the Beijing University of Aviation and Aeronautics (BUAA) , Zhang says he has no doubt that visitors from other planets have had a considerable amount of contact with people on Earth. ...

In early Sept., Zhang invited police technicians and psychologists to subject Meng Zhaoguo to a lie detector test and hypnosis experiments in Beijing. Test results proved Meng was telling the truth. Zhang also believes the scars Meng bears from the incident, which doctors said could not possibly have been caused by common injuries or surgery, served as further evidence of ET encounter.

......Zhang does argue , however, that UFO research should not be fettered by the limitations of modern science and technology. "We need new conceptions in UFO research, as current science and technology theory also need improving" Cao Lixing a post graduate student majoring in computer science at BUAA, says proving the existence of UFOs or flying saucers is important to advancing serious study.." As long as the existence of such phenomena remains unproven, UFO research will never escape the bounds of skepticism," he says.......
13 Feb 2007
The following is a detailed edited account of my first alien encounter that was also published in 'Ancient Astronaut Magazine' and other Ufo magazines in 1977. Other accounts of the encounter were on earlier radio and tv talk shows here in Canada, New Zealand and U.S. Also in UFO Encylopedia by Margaret Sachs.

I was only in my late 15th year when on Oct. 19th. 1960 my life was to be drastically altered that evening. I had the overwelming compusion to leave home and travel out to the area near Niagara Falls and Welland Ontario Canada from Toronto. I got out there and along the side roads with the broading dark sillouettes of trees with no light from the moon to light my way in a clear starry sky. Why was I out here . what was pulling me into this frightening desolate night?

Suddenly the whole area around me lit up with the most brillant, but not blinding light. The light was coming from above me and just above the trees. I looked up into the source of the light and there was a large bluish white smooth saucer craft a hundred feet above me or less and about that size in diameter.

Motionless, the craft hovered above me. Was this what had drawn me out to this place? Somehow I knew this object was not from this civilization and was indeed an alien craft. I thought to myself, why couldn't there be life on other worlds and capable of travelling to earth. I had never thought of ufos before this encounter.

I tried to take full advantage of the situation as I thought I had nothing to loose and called out; "Who are you-what do you want?"

Then the most unexpected thing happened; A loud resonating voice spoke out of the flying saucer , saying; " Do not be afraid, we will not harm you. We will return tomorrow night to confirm the sighting and visit you."

I had not expected this, and after a few moments the saucer began to move to the Northeast, gaining altitude quickly and sped away in a burst of speed, dematerializing in the clear sky. I then made my way to Niagara Falls , hitchiking once more and later was picked up by my very pissed off parents for taking off from home.

I prepared to go to high school the next day and had clean folded clothes on my dresser. It soon was 11 p.m. and everyone had gone to sleep, I had a strange feeling as if someone was watching me as I sat near my bed in my pyjamas. I called out; " Who is there..are you from the flying saucer?" Then a for of telepathic voice answered; 'Don't be afraid, prepare yourself."

Then a total blackness took over me, not one from sleep either and found myself on board a flying saucer! Looking around from inside of form of transparent tube that I was standing within I could see the craft was circuluar and of a bluish white metal. The instrument panels and floor were of the same metal. I stood there and then stepped down from the platform toward a man six feet high and with short white hair that contrasted with his metalic bronze coloured skin and sparkling blue eyes and vividly blue flight suit he wore. There was two other younger men there of the same type, but with ebony coloured hair.

Then the older alien approached me and said;" We have brought you here because there are many important things to be done in the future of Earth; these will change its history for the better or the worst as it all depends on where a person stands in relation to his civilization."

As he spoke of these thing we walked toward a viewing screen and he adjusted afew dials and we saw a view of Rio de Janerio at night time. Either we had travelled into the future or it was a time viewer, a view of a strange air that was tense as the city started to convulse, flames shot upward and saw a massive tidal wave coming in a thousand feet high as the land sank beneath the ocean and new land surfaced upward from the South Atlantic Ocean. A few years later the report from the International Geographic Year evidience did find that the land out in the South Atlantic Ocean off of Brazil is indeed rising.

The Alien then said; " This is only an example of what will be happening in your future as this civilization is coming to its end as have many greater ones in the past!"

He then showed me the rest of the ship, command center seat, other control panels as the control screens pulsated colours to reveal the energy densities and time waves we were in. Then mentioned : " Another reason why you are here now, besides seing the inside of the ship is we were wondering if you would like to help us?" The way he said this, I sort of got the impression that I was being told I was to be drafted by the local cosmic draft board.

"You must realize why you have been kept alive since birth when you should of died so many times, bafling the doctors as to why you keep recharging and still alive.? You are here to fullfill our needs!" ( I was born like a person in a cocoon and took years to remove it, then ill all my life until this happened) I realized too that many contactees had failed or died from government intervention and etc. and why? Because they could not see beyond the flying saucer as to what they were contacted for and do for all.

Now the real phase of the contacts were to begin with mankind. the silent ones would work secretly until they were ready to go forth. These being being born physcially here to establish a true identity and as prearranged to give up their body for 'Alien re-embodiment, as a sort of form of cloning- Walk-ins. I Understood from them that this was a natural part of evolution and mankind's function. Nothing belongs to one person not even their body which is only an organic shell we wear and the body can be loaned out at birth and then passed onto others for more important reasons or be a host for many others at once! All this I seemed to understand.

" Your present memories of your body will remain intact and keep a saftey factor for myself." The alien said. Also of other future things and people I was to meet to work with. It was at this time he mentioned where they were from; not any nearby planet or stars system, but from earth's own past of the ' CARBONIFERIOUS AGE'! They called themselves the AKONITIES!

It was time to leave and I was led back to the transparent tube and it was lowered down around me and him in the other one.. Th eother two aliens adjusted the controls for the tubes which I now understood were a form of teleporting tube. The following events were transcribed into a present book out by Hidden Nystery Books called" Teleportation- Star Trek to Nichlas Tesla ' I discovered on the internet. You can look it up and see the account of the teleportation as only person known to of given a detailed account of such an experience.

' Strange vivid colours surrounded me after the hazy, yellowish hue of the first process of energization had begun. The colours appeared as swirling indigo colours; whites, blues, yellows and many other indescribable colours. Waves of caressing energy ran through my body, purging my spirit, rendering my body a renovated house for a new resident."

'It was the most omnipresnet feeling of well being that a person could experience, not only an experience of feeling and seeing clours but also of wisdom and language it possessed. The whole universe seemede to be in those colours and it would only take time and meditation to understand the laws and secrets it talked about.' How long it took I do not know until I awoke once more to find my clean clothes in a ozone smelling heap in the corner of the room, where before they were neatly folded clean on the dresser.

I knew it had really happened and could not tell anyone yet of this encounter. I seemed to know so many things I could not know of and my body felt all new and the illnesses I had that were killing me, like being allergic to everything, bad lungs and so on had totally gone. Images of other worlds, ages and more flashed through my mind now, e.s.p. abilities had flared up right away with different types coming and going. My whole perasonality changed over night and became quite outgoing. I told no one and in Feb 1961 I was shanghaied by the C.I.A. and the test on me showed high e.s.p. and was subjected to truth serum ; a serum that was not approved until 16 years later in 1968 and questioned as to what happened on the flying saucer and who I was to meet. I developed a strong reaction to the serum and almost died. Now I was really interested as to what was and flying saucers as there had to be something really going on.:confused:

It was only my youth and that i nearly died that saved me and finally certain other government powers interviened and got me out..

During 1962 I resumed my telportation contacts with the Arkonians or Arkonites, Now I was often part of the crew, using the instruments to fly the craft. I went back to their time and city, the city being where the Lake St.Clair west land mass is now. It was an age of splendor with beautiful shallow seas and lakes with an over abundance of spourous prehistoric plants and tall tree like plants. Over sized coloured mushrooms everywhere with amphibians scampering everywhere. Strange mammels also did exist back then, as the now known proto mammals discovered by palentologists. Beautiful domed behive like glowing buildings graced the landscape with swirled walkways spiralling down through the city. In the city plazas were dotted with monolithic stone structures or memphirs and behind one could see earth's original moon.

While in the Canadain Air Force for awhile I had one contact that around 50 people witnessed including Mr Founier, a friend who worked with Jo Ann McNeiver , mentioned in Jess Stern's book 'The Girl With The Blue Eyes' on past life reincarnation. There where three saucers hovering out over the tarmack and they saw me walk out and float up into one of the saucers and the saucer then took off. Later I returned before it was time for all of us to get up for the day. So much for going AWL by UFO.:laugh:

I met some of the people I was supposed to in 1963 and began having more types of alien and flying saucer contacts with them. Even ones from far regions of the universe. Trained in mind travel and other abilities along with research and doing things within this civilzation. Information on the past eras and ancient astronauts, time travel and many other interesting subjects. Then onto New Zealand in 1969 to help secure the saucer base there from the communist onslaught at the latter days of the Vietnam war, with other alien contact there and since, even with recent earth made saucers that are in debate and the 1982 interdimensional saucer contact here, along with one of the Spears of Destiny. The information to write the first Star People concept with my cousin Mabel and other matters dealing with this civilization and Hollow Earth. Lot of the earlier contacts a diary was kept by a friend and I on it, with information that often no one could back then just come up with it on their own.
10 Feb 2007
A major new historic archeological find has been made near Eastern Lugansk Ukraine of a Aztec-Mayan like pyramid of animists who worshipped the Sun God. It predates the earliest Egyptian pyramids by 300 years according to Viktor Klochko , head of the excuvations.

Just a find would really change the whole concept of the early farmer-cattle raising concept of the early Slavic culture there and many other concepts of history. Photo of in articles

Another find in Russia was a Vishnu statue found in Staraya (old) Maina village in Ulyanovsk Region that was highly populated 1700 years ago and the mother city of the Russian people ( Russ ) . Jan 3.2007 Moscow news.

Article from Moscow News. Jan 23 2007. on pyramid covers all other newslinks in Russia as well. Other information on the site of past issues of new finds and even ufo crashes and Mars Moon news .

Http://www.mosnews.com/
30 Jan 2007
Hi; I am new to this interesting forum and have been very interested in the topics discussed here. Be they one ufos, ancient astronauts, coverups, pyramids and other related subjects. Have had many first hand experiences in these areas. Love to hear of your experience and opinions.

Ivan
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