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27 Jun 2007
Im going to state it plane and simple, in my opinion UFO fanatics border on religious delusion. No belief is beyond criticism and questioning yet skeptics on this forum are effectively castrated for fear of being banned by moderators who cant accept serious skeptical criticism. If you want to debate about UFO's then lets debate but not with my hands tied behind my back. The onus falls on the believers to prove their beliefs to the skeptics, not the other way round. The one making the fantastical claims has to justify them, not the one seeking the simplest most likely sollution. I cannot prove a negative, i cannot prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that UFO's do not exist just as nobody can prove that i don't have an invisible car. So ill state once again, it is the responsibility of the believers to come up with the evidence.
Generally speaking i think conspiracy theorists have a tendancy to believe lots of conspiracies, i have rarely talked with a conspiracy theorist who accepted one conspiracy but rejected many others. When i talk to people they either tend to believe no conspiracies, or they believe many conspiracies, i.e they'll believe in UFO adbuctions, they'll believe the moon landings were faked, they'll believe September 11th was an inside job, they'll believe in the Illuminati and they'll hold all these beliefs simultaniously. Im not saying thats the case for everybody here, but im betting the majority of UFO believers believe in either more than one or many conspiracies. This for me highlights a lack of critical thinking in many, but not all UFO believers. Occams Razor, a principle invented by a 14th century monk that is still used widely by scientists today, states that when searching for the explanation of any phenomenon we should make as few assumptions as possible, eliminating those that make no observable difference to the predictions of a hypothesis or theory. All things being equal, the simplest solution tends to be the best one. In my experience UFO believers and conspiracy theorists tend to do the opposite, they go for the most wild and wacky solution. In other words if believers want to be taken seriously then they have to deal in facts not speculation, when someone goes on youtube claiming to be part of a government alien cover-up instead of believing him outright they need to critically analyse this man, what are his motives, can anything he is saying be established etc... Taking someones word at something does not count as evidence for your case, if everyone took peoples word on everything we'd all be scared of having our pictures taken incase the camera stole our souls, we'd all be scared of walking under ladders, believing in faeries and unicorns etc. If believers want to be taken seriously and stop being thought of as deluded fantasists then they need to provide critical, unbiased evidence for the existence of UFO's and whats more they need to accept criticism of their beliefs. I can literally not sit here and not critisize people who have dreams about aliens and take it as evidence. If UFO fanatics are so confident in their beliefs than stand up and defend them. |
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