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The Bitch and Die and Mods Don't Care Thread

Guidelines, Banned Members & Forum Squizzies

Forum Matters, Guideline Queries and Other Stuff

Questions re Forum Guidelines and Banned Members

First of all, AJ, you owe your mother a little more respect if for nothing else than she gave you life and has cared for you as best she could these past 18 years. And profaning her merely gives away your immaturity. If she didn't care, she wouldn't try to help. Believe me it's much easier to look the other way than to deal with problems. And what does she know? She's at least twice your age and has a lot of experience in living if nothing else, which you have yet to experience. You would be wise to listen to her when she is trying to help, she may just have the words you need to hear. Later on, it may be too late.

Secondly, ASLANs only commented that he supposed your grandparents were a certain way because that is how historically people behave, it can directly be traced. He didn't insult your grandparents. He was trying to give you insight.

And just because you disagree with someone's religious inclination, gives you no green light to use the kind of language you did and I, myself, find it extremely offensive.

Might I ask where the Mods are?? Do we all have to tolerate this foul language stuff because he's "young"? There is supposed to be some civility in us and I don't see much of that now.

That's what I want to know! (Guess you get what you pay for.)

The threads in question are these two posted below.

Pat robertson
http://www.alien-ufos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11542

I'm Mentally Insane
http://www.alien-ufos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11595

This is a repost of post number 7 in the sticky thread called.... Religious Chat and Other Matters.... which was especially set up for posting of personal religious type chat and where posts which are way too off topic in religious threads get moved to. This may help clarify the situation.


This is a Repost from.... Religious Chat and Other Matters

http://www.alien-ufos.com/forum/showthread...?t=11452&page=1

Like we have said many a time, unless a person is an obvious troll we try to remedy the situation behind the scenes through pm or email so they are able to stay and post. We do the best we can and much time has been put into this with ASLANs which none of you would have seen. Sometimes some folk get upset if things don't turn out in the forum the way they think it should be.

There is also the situation where exceptionally inflamatory posts have been deleted and so sometimes things are not as they may appear on the forum. But we cannot devote all our time indefinately to just one member and so as a further remedy here is a quote from Xander the Admin. ASLANs is aware of this and has been officially told by pm what could happen on the spot with no further warning. If anyone has any comment to make please either post in this thread or follow the guidelines and either pm Xander or a Mod or make a new thread in the Feedback Forum.

Quote Xander:
Since we've spent so many hours trying to help ASLANs become a rule abiding member of this community and not a moderators nightmare, we shall now simply give him a 24 hour ban each time he does something that is logically a bad thing to do. It has reached the stage where it's obvious that our efforts are in vain and this is the only way of dealing with the situation.

Dingo
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So you wouldn't swear at someone who just told you your parents were bad, and your grandparents were also bad parents? Wow, you must never get angry.

AJ....he didn't state that your parents were bad....please reread his post. You truly did take this all wrong.
As far as replying to him, do whatever you want...in a private message. Please, please do not expose us to all that foul rage. I know you really don't to be thought of in that manner, do you?
And I used to be the Queen of the Acid Tongue. When I was younger....I've grown up a bit and have found that it isn't worth the migraines and effort to become so worked up over something that I probably won't be able to change, let alone daily matters. You'll see...as you get older and have learned from life experiences, you become wiser and are able to formulate your responses in a more civilized, articulate way which is even more gratifying in the end. People tend to ignore those who are foul or steer away from them, while those who are able to put people in their places without resorting to vulgarity and continuing to command a controlled demeanor, are sought after and admired.
I understand your wish to defend family but find it contradictory that you belittle and disrespect them in the previous sentence. It's not consistent.
And remember, AJ, and I say this in all kindness, even your parents and grandparents are human and make mistakes. Cut them some slack. You will make mistakes as a parent too. The beauty of everything is that parental love is unconditional. Learn from past mistakes to make your life and future childrens lives better.
Blessings to you always.....Donna

You have been consistently one-sided and using a double standard against Aslan's. I wonder where your malice for him would end if you had the power of life and death over him?

Maybe someday you WILL have the power of life and death over those who try to warn rather than have the blood of others on their hands. If that day ever comes, will you sentence them to death? People like Aslan's? Maybe a little torture first?

Keep on the path you are on and we will see where you end up, hating Christians, calling evil good and good evil, and denying the rightful place of the One Who rose victorious over death and denying the right of those of us who make Him our "deity of choice", if you will, to voice our convictions and our understanding of His Holy Word. It'll be obvious soon enough, just a matter of time.

Aslan's basically agreed with AJ and has been repudiated for having criticized his parents and grandparents. His use of the image of a parent provoking a child to wrath is a basic command in Scripture for all parents to avoid doing that. And yet, being human, those of us who have children know only too well that at some point we blow it and hurt our kids inadvertantly and the child / children end up angry.

Aslan's was simply saying that maybe AJ's parents and grandparents were not perfect. That's considerably less than what AJ himself says about them.

I am tired of your duplicitous treatment of Aslan's. You have moved all the comments made on Aslan's behalf to this chat room. Everything else you have left where it was, no matter how vitriolic.

Also, you take the trouble to again defend yourself as though you did no wrong when you baited Aslan's by publicizing info you could only have obtained as a moderator about the number of people he has on his ignore list. That is baiting him. I find all of this disgustingly self-serving on your part.

And so, it continues.

You may be a moderator, but you still reap what you sow.

Oh Sissy....SO ELOQUENTLY put!! Wish I had said it. I agree and BRAVO! There are some moderators here who relish baiting and switching and generally are very unpleasant to deal with. I, too, shall be interested in seeing if they reap what they sow....it's just a matter of time.
In the meantime...here I am....one of the big thorns in their sides....:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

We all will Sissy - but I think you'll find the Dog and I couldn't give a damn. In that respect your moralising is wasted. As for 'sowing' all I have seen here since ASLANs arrived is the sowing of discontent so is it any wonder that he now 'reaps'?
I know and respect the position and faith you hold....what you and ASLANs both seem unable to do is accord that luxury to anyone else. The 'intolerance' we are supposed to display here of ASLANs views is no more than the intolerance he has meted out to so many people on this forum that it beggars belief that you cannot see it. But then maybe those who proclaim they are the righteous have yet to remove the rafter from their eye?

Oh well - we tried hard with ASLANs - We really bust our gut trying to keep him on-side but I say this to you and to every member of our little community here. I have never worked so hard on anyone - Dingo never has either - every day we would have to delete posts, remove posts, shift posts and generally try to get him to work within our forum rules - I couldn't care less if he worshipped God or the Devil himself - most folks are welcome here. We've had to placate people because of his outrageous homophobic and racist comments. We've had to clean up after his clever use of words with double meanings designed to cripple people inside.

I'll make this easy for you both - quite simply I am taking it upon myself to ban you both permanently.

Should you wish any further explanation or wish to enquire as to the full catalogue of reasons I suggest you ask God. It seems you both have a direct line and he certainly is far wiser than me or the Dog.


God Bless.

Ben

Oh wtf Sissy?
Good God.
The double standard Aslans feels he's been victim to never even manifested until he managed to piss off half the forum with his anti-musilm, anti-gay, pro-slavery crap.
Back before any of us knew exactly how vile he was, back when we simply tried to debate concepts with him, he cried "Double standard!!!!"

Sissy, he arrived here claiming we'd called him psychotic, when no one had done any such thing. It was either a horrible mix up in the noggin with some other forum or pure paranoia.
How ironic is that?

Now add in his opinions that all muslims should be deported, gays don't act like humans,and blacks should be greatful for having been made slaves.

Now Sissy...I seriously doubt you "get this", as I know you're just as hateful and vile as Aslans is himself. I know you share his views.

But Donna....you have no excuse.
You know this is wrong and you defend it regardless.
Is it just because you technically share the same religion?
Even though Aslans advocates every mentality Christ himself stood up against?
Did Jesus tell the tale of the horrible Samaritan who should be deported to Gitmo to be tortured?

Donna, I also tend to want to side with the underdog.
But Aslan's weirdo version of "Christianity" is not actually the underdog anywhere but here on the net. Here at A-ufos that stuff is not ok at all.
In America, fundy hate rules...and in the areas of the world where Christians are tortured, you know fundy hate isn't the mentality of of the oppresed.

How can you, in good conscience, Donna, defend the voice that defends slavery, sexism, racism, and religious persecution?

Donna's right. I shouldn't have used that language. But it's the fact that what he said I take as an insult to my family, and I lost control. I'm sorry if I offended you, Donna. Really. But what ASLANs did was make it personal.

And Ben, why would you ban that Snodgrass or whoever? What did they do?

Hmmm... I notice you bringing this up again and I really don't know why you think I have access to the number of people a member has on his or her Ignore Member list. As a Mod a member cannot put me on their Ignore list, but... I am not privy to what anyone does personally as in who or how many they have on their Ignore Member list, nor if they have any there at all. That is private information only available to the member.

The only way I can ever know if anyone has someone on their Ignore list is if they themselves say so..... Like in the case when ASLANs posted in a thread here telling us all he has some of us on his Ignore Member list and it's from his own post I got the numbers from... You can go and check that out for yourself...

http://www.alien-ufos.com/forum/showthread...44&page=5&pp=30


Maybe you might like to clarify what exactly you mean? :confused:

Dingo
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This is like the twilight zone.
You're going to accuse the A-Ufos staff of having the characters of murders and torturers, and then if you get banned for it, you're going to interpret it as evidence that they are, indeed, murderous, torturing types?

We could have banned ASLANs after he'd only been here a few days, but instead we've put months of effort into helping him not get banned. If we've got double standards, then it's in favour of ASLANs and we've being mean to the rest of the members.

It's not because ASLANs is a christian that we don't like him, it's because he's unreasonable. Simple as that.

KellyB and Aj: First of all, Aj, thanx for the apology, it is accepted with an open heart and I appreciate you're being man enough to offer it. KellyB: I have defended ASLANs as I would ANYONE who I feel was misinterpreted or their words misconstrued.
He isn't real sensitive when writing and I think he comes off totally wrong at times, but when you reread his comments, and focus on what he's trying to get across, he hasn't been rude or inappropriate in his language.
I know many of you think I'm a wuss....but I do tend to stand up for the people I feel are truly wronged.
Most of you all know that even tho' I'm a Christian I am very interested in other peoples religions and have some pretty radical beliefs that have made some Christians
around me very upset. (strong belief in reincarnation, lost gospels of Christ, and aliens as a few to mention.)
I don't want to be thought of as being prim and prissy....Lord, I am certainly NOT THAT! I just like to try to help others, like AJ, with the things I've learned along the way when I was going through the very same thing. Geez, guys....I wear makeup everyday, I drink..love my vodka and diet coke with a twist of lime, and have a penchant to swear if I bang my knee or something but only when I'm alone now.
So I would like to be treated like anyone else. Please end this hostility and insult thing as I bear no hostility towards anyone. Quite the contrary, I've prayed for a lot of you.
I hope this clears up where I stand. Don't think because I understand ASLANs that I am him. I'm me with my own way of doing things. And I think it's a shame that a man
with as much knowledge as ASLANs is being banned from the forum. And Sissy too.
It's just sad.

Pastor's sermon struck home today. He vividly described, taught and illustrated from his own life with wife how being shrill--even in the right about the truth can be unnecessarily destructive.

I repent, apologize for all cases, incidents, degrees, issues, flavors, aspects, types . . . of doing such. I'm loathe to be unnecessarily destructive and want to weed all such as much out of my life as possible. I will continue to try and turn more fully and effectively from unnecessary destructiveness, shrillness etc.

Other things I'll continue to prayerfully ponder, for now. Thanks for all your candid feedback.

I am planning to find and hire a reasonably objective, bright sociology student to run some statistical analyses on my personal posts and threads I've started. Have downloaded all but page 11 of my posts (couldn't figure out a way past the 30 sec download time-out error on that page). Will see what 'objective' criteria, definitions etc. we can come up with and see what the statistics show. I would like a much better handle on my unreasonableness.

I will note also, ATT that in virtually all areas of life, many things are not as they seem.

I also appreciate all the patience and efforts on the part of Xander, Dingo, Ben and other mods. It has been frustrating for me to honestly try hard to fit my personality etc. into this forum with as minimal a hassle etc. as I could manage and discover that that was not very minimal at all from a number of perspectives.

Then there's the news that Israel is planning to nuke Iran's nuke sites and Russia is drawing up evacuation plans for their personnel.

May God have mercy on us all.

Donna -

I always enjoy your posts as they seem to be very objective and insightful. However, how can you call yourself a true Christian if you believe in reincarnation, which is an eastern religous belief? It would be more accurate to say that you have your own belief system based on many different influences, wouldn't it?

And I forgive you for what you have said to me. However, apologies can only be accepted so many times.

I forgive you AJ for being who you are....

lol J/k man

live and learn is all I have to say so let the living live and let learning be behind the scene.

~Austin