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Although this isn't my account, I do have connections with it that are known by a few here. I have mentioned my friend Jim here many times and have been waiting awhile for Martin to to post the rest of his story, one he shared with me many months ago. It's pretty interesting to say the least, and although I don't neccesarily agree with Jim's conclusions, I am in awe of the bravery he demonstrates by sharing his experience with us. I hope he'll stop by again soon and let us know how he's doing...thanks Jim.
~Cowbell Praying Mantis Accounts - Part III Jim submitted his third report on June 5, 2005 with the following cautionary note: Hi Martin, I've finished it and God was it tough to write. I don’t know how you want to edit it, you may want to edit out the swear words, I know it's a low form of communication but I meant every word of it, but maybe we’re better off editing it out to make it more accessible. I’ll be interested in your thoughts concerning the accounts, I think once you've read it you'll understand my predicament. I feel better already. I'll send the artwork and sound files in another email. Kind regards, Jim G. Introduction by Martin J. Part of the reason for the delay in publishing this material was the difficulty in trying to represent these bizarre incidents without sacrificing Jim’s credibility. As you have read, Jim anguished over this in the above e-mails. Jim and I both feel that the aliens may be supplying him with some outlandish information that is intended to discredit him. This type of information was apparently given to Jim purposefully since the aliens initiated the communication flow and only after the first incidents where he was able to regain consciousness during his encounters. The reader should perhaps keep in mind that the true information in these articles might be revealed when Jim is able to foil his abductors and catches them off guard. However, we have included some of the likely ‘disinformation’ as well so the reader can appreciate Jim's dilemma. The whole story can be found at the following links. If you are reading them for the first time, I suggest they be read in order. Jim's latest... "A Praying Mantis Account-Part III Jim's original reports... "A Praying Mantis Account- Part I" "A Praying Mantis Account- Part II |
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Feb 21 2006, 11:18 AM
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That is so frightening. Poor man
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Feb 21 2006, 11:42 AM
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I am just curious what you think Cow. For me this info is of course fascinating and it has the same theme of a lot of abductees - they seem genuinely ambivalent or confused about whether the process they have been part of is benovelent, evil or somewhere in between. Cow here is my dilemma. If in fact humans are so screwed up, is it not our divine right to find our own solutions? I am not sure I can understand on a philosophical level what gives these aliens a right to intervene. I mean say I believe Jim gave them permission before he was born which is how one theory operates or another is he was randomly selected pretty much like how our biologists tag animals-I can see them studying us and considering us primative life forms as we treat our own on this planet, but don't you think they would have sufficient intelligence to understand they should not intervene in the cosmic order of things? Or am I to believe that these creatures are at a different plain of intelligence then us, but in another way, still very primative in that they do not respect a divine natural order to things? Know what I mean? Can you also share anything Jim told you about his gut feelings. Its funny cow but with these kinds of stories, I like to just listen to people's gut reactions -they always seem to be clouded from the thoughts, but it always seems like their primative intution remains in tact. Thanks, look forward to responses or further info.
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Feb 21 2006, 01:04 PM
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I also found the story to be fascinating. However, not to take from Jim and his very realistic encounters (I am sure they are very real to him), but I see all kinds of loop holes and inconsistencies in his story. Maybe I am too much of a skeptic. When I am reading these kinds of stories, I always find myself reading each sentence and finding the "gotchas", or the items that do not seem to make sense and contradict other parts of the story. I don't want to go through a sentence by sentence argument/commentary, but some of the things he says is just too damn convenient and typical...
Whatever the case is, I feel sorry for Jim. Like I said, whatever these experiences are (mental, physical, emotional), the poor chap is going through a rough time. |
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Feb 21 2006, 01:15 PM
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creepy story. The photos in the third section were pretty freaky under the greenish hue.
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Feb 21 2006, 03:11 PM
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THATS what I was reading and looking at those picture right before I went to bed last night!
Thanks!!!!! |
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Feb 21 2006, 08:47 PM
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Sounds frighteningly like the "Drii" I deal with, only on a much scarier level. There are a lot of freaky parallels, though.
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Feb 21 2006, 09:43 PM
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dang, those where some scarey artworks. the one with the two green guys and white mantis alien...scarey.
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Feb 21 2006, 11:10 PM
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(rube) I am just curious what you think Cow. For me this info is of course fascinating and it has the same theme of a lot of abductees - they seem genuinely ambivalent or confused about whether the process they have been part of is benovelent, evil or somewhere in between.
What amazes me most about Jims experience is the the wealth of different information that he describes, moreso than any other I've ever read (and I've read alot). From Geopolitics (references to Iraq and China) to Ecological issues (overfishing) to Corporate Greed and the Military/Industrial complex. It even includes references to an interaction with our various Governments. There is also a sprinkle of historical reference added (The Spanish Inquisiton). Wow! I will have to let Jim speak for himself on the matter of ambivalence or confusion. It's obvious that he feels violated and I see his suspicion as a justifiably normal reaction. However, I look at Jims story and have to ask just what is really going on. I've commented on Jims experiences many times and I keep coming back to several key questions. As I've also said before, I am like Jim. I absolutely know they are here. So these questions are assumptive in that respect. It appears to me Jim is being used as some kind of tool. It was important to them that he understood a message of some kind. Reading his story, I find that the focus of message being delivered to Jim is simply this- "Time is running out". It is also delivered, it appears, with extreme prejudice indicated by the attitude of the being delivering it. Everything else Jim is shown indicates this or is he is shown scenes to back this up. The question is "why" is it important he understand this? Whether or not some or all of this is disinformation remains to be seen. I do know that one aspect of what Jim was shown is in the process of becoming reality. It happens to relate to me locally and concerns the listing of the Puget Sound Orca pod on the Endangered Species list last November. It went into effect February 16th. There are those however who "won’t stop until there’s nothing left." "The voice behind me spoke in an unemotional matter of fact way, “You see, they won’t stop until there’s nothing left. This is fact”. I weakly replied there must be something that can to be done, I mean, what about international treaties? I stared at the destruction and the ‘knock on’ effect. Everything’s connected. One bit of the information I definitely recall depicted was Orcas (killer whales) off the coast of Canada starving because of the lack of salmon. (Again this would not be something that I would think of or would be aware of). This was happening all so fast." ~ Jim G. From todays Seattle Weekly: "Not surprisingly, development and construction interests, in fact, have weighed in. Earlier this month, the Building Industry Association of Washington (BIAW) filed a notification that it intends to file a lawsuit contesting the listing. BIAW attorney Tom Harris told the Seattle Post-Intelligencer that it was "an unlawful listing," adding: "You can almost say any individual school of fish can be listed." So far, however, the BIAW has not offered any scientific support for its position. Russ Brooks of the Pacific Legal Foundation, which is representing the BIAW and Washington Farm Bureau in the planned lawsuit, outlines the opposition's thinking: "The fisheries service can only evaluate for listing purposes, and then list, . . . a species, a subspecies, or a distinct population segment of a species. That's very clear under the law in the [Endangered Species Act's] terms," Brooks says. He claims the southern resident orcas don't fit any of these categories, but are rather "a distinct population segment of a subspecies, which is pretty clearly not allowed under ESA case law." Brooks says that the opponents haven't consulted any scientists on the matter. "We don't really need any scientists backing us up on it, because it's a legal argument. . . . It's not a factual dispute, it's not a scientific dispute, it's a pure legal dispute. http://www.seattleweekly.com/news/0608/whales.php (Note: These guys are assholes) I know the argument here is that this was predictable, as is most of what Jim was shown. This will be the sword used here. Regardless, this part of the message, whether fabricated or delivered by Mantis Aliens, is true. Hopefully we will find time to discuss what else rings "true" in Jims story. I just find it difficult to assume that such advanced beings would see the need to toy with or deceive someone like a Jim G. In the end, it is one more example of a "warning" encounter, like the Ariel School encounter and many many others. (Rube) Cow here is my dilemma. If in fact humans are so screwed up, is it not our divine right to find our own solutions? I am not sure I can understand on a philosophical level what gives these aliens a right to intervene.
Who said anything about intervention? Other than the fair warnings they have given so many over the last few decades, I wouldn't expect much intervention. What I do believe is that they see everything. What Jim basically experienced was nothing else but an Akashic Record experience ala Edgar Cayce. I see many similarities between Jim's experience and that of Mr. Cayce described here: " I see myself as a tiny dot out of my physical body, which lies inert before me. I find myself oppressed by darkness and there is a feeling of terrific loneliness. Suddenly, I am conscious of a white beam of light. As this tiny dot, I move upward following the light, knowing that I must follow it or be lost. As I move along this path of light I gradually become conscious of various levels upon which there is movement. Upon the first levels there are vague, horrible shapes, grotesque forms such as one sees in nightmares. Passing on, there begin to appear on either side misshapen forms of human beings with some part of the body magnified. Again there is change and I become conscious of gray-hooded forms moving downward. Gradually, these become lighter in color. Then the direction changes and these forms move upward and the color of the robes grows rapidly lighter. Next, there begin to appear on either side vague outlines of houses, walls, trees, etc., but everything is motionless. As I pass on, there is more light and movement in what appear to be normal cities and towns. With the growth of movement I become conscious of sounds, at first indistinct rumblings, then music, laughter, and singing of birds. There is more and more light, the colors become very beautiful, and there is the sound of wonderful music. The houses are left behind, ahead there is only a blending of sound and color. Quite suddenly I come upon a hall of records. It is a hall without walls, without ceiling, but I am conscious of seeing an old man who hands me a large book, a record of the individual for whom I seek information. Reading 294-19 Report File http://www.edgarcayce.org/about_ec/cayce_on/akashic/ The way humanity has been unable to shake it's instinctual aggressive nature, they simply see the writing on the wall (or on the Globe in this case). Actually, it benefits them to take a hands off policy. They retain the moral highground (non-interference) while most likely becoming the only ones still buzzing about, other than the scattered remnants of what remains after time runs out, whenever that may be. I am of the opinion that sooner or later, if they do stay out of it, it will someday become the eventual reality. They seem extremely patient if you ask me... (Rube) I mean say I believe Jim gave them permission before he was born which is how one theory operates or another is he was randomly selected pretty much like how our biologists tag animals-I can see them studying us and considering us primative life forms as we treat our own on this planet, but don't you think they would have sufficient intelligence to understand they should not intervene in the cosmic order of things?
Not sure about the permission thing, but I do believe Jim fits his role well. Although he might feel otherwise, I have told him and restate here that I feel he is doing exactly what he was chosen to do. He is an exceptionally talented graphic artist who also happens to be able to reproduce scenes of his experiences that only can be described as fascinating. He also has the ability to reproduce the sounds that he hears and also shares these with the rest of us. One has to assume extreme stupidity on the part of these entities for chosing someone so talented in these ways to "slip up" with, or somehow allow him to "get by" the memory wipe process. Rather, this guy tells his story in the most matter of fact way I 've read yet. (Rube) Or am I to believe that these creatures are at a different plain of intelligence then us, but in another way, still very primative in that they do not respect a divine natural order to things? Know what I mean?
In what way have they shown disrepect to the divine natural order of things? I could argue that cosmically,the divine natural order of things is that the strong always dominate the weak. Wouldn't this justify some of the more inhumane behavior Jim experienced while remaining true to the order of things? At least they try and make most of us "forget" the physical stuff. This is much more than we have ever done for those we consider of lower intelligence, thereby justifying our physical, often abusive treatment of them. (Rube) Can you also share anything Jim told you about his gut feelings. Its funny cow but with these kinds of stories, I like to just listen to people's gut reactions -they always seem to be clouded from the thoughts, but it always seems like their primative intution remains in tact. Thanks, look forward to responses or further info.
I have tried to address some of this throughout the post. I know he believes what he has written is truth. I believe, for my own reasons, that it is so. I think he believes we are in some trouble as to the near future. I agree. We may come at it from slightly different angles, but the end result is the same. "Time Is Running Out". Problem is, who's definition of "time" are we going by here? ~Cowbell |
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Feb 22 2006, 03:10 PM
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thanks for the responses cow.
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Feb 22 2006, 07:22 PM
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Your welcome Rube.
I know many will find my opinions on this somewhat disturbing. Sorry...
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Feb 22 2006, 07:34 PM
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wow... we do have a little in common me and him... if you know him tell him to email me.k?
we both felt like we were gonna die we both had something touch our heads and we both saw a shade of blue... except in my experience the room was filled with a blue light not just the entitiy. we both saw hooded figures too. I dont know what to make of it but i cant say it didnt happen only he realy knows for sure. |
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Feb 24 2006, 12:36 PM
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Thanks CC . . . sobering. Printed them off minus the pics . . . digesting.
Samuri, I think the kinds of inconsistencies I've seen so far are well within normal limits of reporting a first hand experience in narrative form. Kind of makes it more valid, to me. |
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Feb 27 2006, 01:24 AM
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Here is another interesting news item related to Salmon stocks off the Pacific Northwest coast, posted last August. The dateline was two months -after- I received the story from Jim.
Warm waters blamed for disappearance of sockeye CTV.ca News Staff Updated Sat. Aug. 20 2005 8:01 AM ET CTV.ca News Staff "In the few places on the B.C. coast where sockeye salmon fishing is allowed, boats are coming back to port empty or near-empty this summer, as the annual sockeye run has so far failed to materialize. The Skeena sockeye run, initially forecast to be 1.2 million fish, has been about half that number. There are also low numbers on the Fraser and Nass Rivers. On the Fraser River, 11 million salmon were predicted to return, but the peak last weekend saw about 100,000 fish. Because of the crisis, the commercial fishery has yet to open and the native fishery has been restricted. At Lions Gate Fishery in Ladner, on the Fraser River, workers are busy processing chum and frozen coho salmon, but sockeye production is less than 10 per cent of what it was this time last year. Jack Waterfield, the owner of Lions Gate Fishery, says shoppers had better scratch sockeye off their menus. Vancouver-area grocery stores and fish markets won't have much in stock. "We've been able to get some product out of Alaska, a little off the north coast," Waterfield says. "But outside of that, their shelves as bare as ours." Fisheries and Oceans Canada is blaming low returns on warmer ocean temperatures, which are two to five degrees higher than salmon are used to. Fisheries manager Paul Ryall believes the salmon are late this year, and the sockeye salmon run could come next week." http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor..._84/?hub=Canada |
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Feb 27 2006, 11:25 AM
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The ecological thing is certainly a repeated them in ufology.
And, there's plenty of justification given a lot of the waste and pollution and great crimes of many people and corporations. However, I still end up feeling it's a somewhat trumped up straw dog. Not that there's no reality to it . . . but that the folks manipulating that message and the public with it will end up being even worse about such things. Thankfully, I do not believe that God will allow the utter destruction of earth by man or anything else until it's time many eons hence. I do believe that He may be ready to cleanse the world with fire before too long. But evil folks and evil critters of all constructions would be amongst the first to go in such a cleansaing--as they well know, probably. I still find the abduction manipulations of humans to be plainly evil. The treating humans as 'ants' is interesting. I think virtually all ET races are well aware of what humans were created by God Almighty to be. It does seem interesting that they seem to feel free to do whatever only to certain individuals or perhaps individuals of certain DNA heritages? Will be interesting to see what that's all about. Thanks, CC |
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Feb 28 2006, 11:24 PM
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(ASLANs) The ecological thing is certainly a repeated them in ufology.
And, there's plenty of justification given a lot of the waste and pollution and great crimes of many people and corporations. I think they are just being honest. (ASLANS) However, I still end up feeling it's a somewhat trumped up straw dog.
In what way friend? What would be the motive and how has it been demonstrated by their actions? (ASLANS) Not that there's no reality to it . . . but that the folks manipulating that message and the public with it will end up being even worse about such things.
And the "folks" manipulating such an honest message would be...? (ASLANS) Thankfully, I do not believe that God will allow the utter destruction of earth by man or anything else until it's time many eons hence.
Thanks you for the opportunity you've given me to clarify myself. I have no doubts that the Earth will remain intact for billions of years to come, barring some severe astrological event occuring within those billions of years. In nature, the cycle of birth, life, and death occurs in all it's systems, universally. However, the species that develops on this rare planet come and go with relatively brief visits in cosmological time. It is the "way". However, we seem to feel we can push our luck. Not sure if the Earth cares to allow us any. (ASLANS) I still find the abduction manipulations of humans to be plainly evil. The treating humans as 'ants' is interesting.
One could argue that in the cosmic scheme of things, the ant may be deserving of more respect than we currently are. They have found a way to live perfectly within nature whereas we find ourselves continually out of balance with it, which creates ripple effects adversly affecting every single natural ecosystem. I suppose what I am trying to say can best be found in this profile of Harvard professor Edward O. Wilson. An excellent article. "Hailed as a genius of modern science, he's also been accused of racism in a vicious debate over evolution. Ed Douglas on the former Southern Baptist who found clues to human behaviour in the ways of the humble ant and is now focusing on the battle to save the planet" Darwins Natural heir In my opinion, Mr Wilson is doing good work. Sadly, it may be too little too late. I hope not. I can relate to the concept of radical theory ruffling academics feathers. John Mack, a Harvard colleague did the same thing...god bless em. (ASLANS) It does seem interesting that they seem to feel free to do whatever only to certain individuals or perhaps individuals of certain DNA heritages?
Will be interesting to see what that's all about. Your guess is as good as mine...:shrug: (ASLANS) Thanks, CC
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(Cosmic Cowbell) I think they are just being honest.
I think virtually all the ET races have shown a capacity for, if not habit of lying. It may be that they are 'merely being honest' about the ecological disasters looming over our heads like the famous sword of damoclese sp. But I don't trust them 1% even about that. I figure that they and the dark lord would manipulate even true facts about that toward a greater globalist government horror. (Cosmic Cowbell) In what way friend? What would be the motive and how has it been demonstrated by their actions?
Well, I think that the trumped up, straw dog aspect has to do with taking valid ecological issues, concerns, disasters and turning them into a shoe-horn coercing the world, forcing the world into a tyrannical globalist government that will be even worse ecologically. Though certainly reducing the world's population to 500,000,000 would help the ecology a lot . . . at considerable price. It's not that the ecological concerns, issues, disasters are false. I think they are real enough. But I think that some are also put up as being beyond the reality. And that even the horrible ones are treated as mere convenient tools of public manipulation. (Cosmic Cowbell) And the "folks" manipulating such an honest message would be...?
It has been evident for decades that the globalists/one worlders/NWO folks were using the ecology movement to their own ends. They have put funds into it; helped with staging; infiltrated it wholesale etc. It is essentially, one of their significant tools, arrows in their quiver. That doesn't make the issues fales. They are real and valid concerns. I agree. I like ARCOSANTI and other ways to minimize man's pressures of living and working on the planet. I love ecologically sound things. But the manipulation of the movement by the globalists is evil. It's more than suspect. (Cosmic Cowbell) Thanks you for the opportunity you've given me to clarify myself. I have no doubts that the Earth will remain intact for billions of years to come, barring some severe astrological event occuring within those billions of years.
. . . However, we seem to feel we can push our luck. Not sure if the Earth cares to allow us any. Oh, I wouldn't count on the planet for luck or anything else. The planet has a fair amount of justification for tossing the lot of us off. Nevertheless, in my construction on reality, the planet was created for our use--not us for it's use. We are to be good stewards of it--caring for it, nurturing it etc. But worshipping it as some tree huggers do is not advisable, imho. There's clear warning about that. (Cosmic Cowbell) One could argue that in the cosmic scheme of things, the ant may be deserving of more respect than we currently are. They have found a way to live perfectly within nature whereas we find ourselves continually out of balance with it, which creates ripple effects adversly affecting every single natural ecosystem. I suppose what I am trying to say can best be found in this profile of Harvard professor Edward O. Wilson. An excellent article.
Will try and check the article out. Can agree about ants in a lot of respects. But then, ants are assigned very rigid, short lived roles. (Cosmic Cowbell) "Hailed as a genius of modern science, he's also been accused of racism in a vicious debate over evolution. Ed Douglas on the former Southern Baptist who found clues to human behaviour in the ways of the humble ant and is now focusing on the battle to save the planet"
Darwins Natural heir In my opinion, Mr Wilson is doing good work. Sadly, it may be too little too late. I hope not. I can relate to the concept of radical theory ruffling academics feathers. John Mack, a Harvard colleague did the same thing...god bless em. I may have read him. Been a while. I agree about John Mack. Oh, it's not too late. God has infinite capacity to renew the planet. I suspect He's overhauled things many times on this boot camp location. Has to get ready for the new class of recruits periodically. (Cosmic Cowbell) Your guess is as good as mine...:shrug:
Please let me know if you get any info on the DNA manipulation goals etc. Strange stuff. I do think it gets into the Nephilim issues and purity of certain human bloodlines being important, somehow. Thanks for the dialogue. |
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