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post Jul 10 2006, 04:19 AM
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this is a new one on me :headscrat


http://www.fugly.com/videos/5702/911_wtc_squibs.html
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post Jul 10 2006, 04:19 AM
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post Jul 10 2006, 07:08 PM
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You should wach the loose change video, it explains the most..
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post Jul 10 2006, 09:57 PM
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You should wach the loose change video, it explains the most..


Loose Change doesn't "explain" anything.
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post Jul 11 2006, 03:35 AM
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i myself think, what they think are charges..... is just the pressure wave created from the weight of the collapsing floors above blowing out the weak spots i dont think theres enough of them to be demo charges.
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post Jul 11 2006, 08:53 AM
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i myself think, what they think are charges..... is just the pressure wave created from the weight of the collapsing floors above blowing out the weak spots i dont think theres enough of them to be demo charges.

What's more is that the positioning and timiing of their 'detonation' doesn't make any sense, even if we take the controlled demolition conspiracy theory for granted.

It's fairly obvious that in a brittle structure like a skyscraper, a collapse initiated high up the building like on the twin towers with the floors pancaking in that manner is going to be felt further down the structure and things are going to buckle and break under the new loading.
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post Jul 11 2006, 09:16 AM
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true andrew it would take alot more squibs than is seen anyway i for one dont think theres anythig in it
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post Jul 11 2006, 02:25 PM
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i think the thermite reason is a logical one,especially after seeing the molten material drip from the building when it was still standing....also all the hot spots that were uncovered by the ground zero firefighters when it was being cleaned upweeks after the towers had fallen....loose change explains more aboout that day than the 9-11 commission report does....the report doesnt even mention the collapse of wtc7
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post Jul 11 2006, 05:50 PM
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Ok then. anyone cares to explain why all bomb sniffing dogs where removed from the buildings just a week before it happened then??
And also why the owner made a insurance policy for terrorist attacks just before it happened?
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post Jul 11 2006, 07:53 PM
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Ok then. anyone cares to explain why all bomb sniffing dogs where removed from the buildings just a week before it happened then?
And also why the owner made a insurance policy for terrorist attacks just before it happened?

Do you care to substantiate these claims?
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post Jul 12 2006, 02:29 AM
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Ok then. anyone cares to explain why all bomb sniffing dogs where removed from the buildings just a week before it happened then??
And also why the owner made a insurance policy for terrorist attacks just before it happened?


where you get your info wodan..... and maybe his insurance was due to be renewed? smile.gif
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post Jul 12 2006, 11:18 AM
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i think the thermite reason is a logical one,especially after seeing the molten material drip from the building when it was still standing....also all the hot spots that were uncovered by the ground zero firefighters when it was being cleaned upweeks after the towers had fallen.
That is an Interesting Video that Shows what sure does Look like a Thermite Reaction. Here it is:

http://youtube.com/watch?y=ExrVgioIXyk&search=thermite.

It would Explain the Hot Spots at Ground Zero so many weeks after the buildings Collapse. Also one of the Reasons why the Debris was Disposed of so Quickly without Forensics Analysis.

Here is a Photo of Firefighters in Front of Columns that Do Look to be Cut by Thermite.



I have seen the so called Squibs as you call them just Recently and do find them Strange to say the least. They don't seem to make any Sense to me. I can't Understand why they Happen where they do and what could have Caused them. I found them Very Curious when I first saw the Video.
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post Jul 12 2006, 11:48 AM
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That is an Interesting Video that Shows what sure does Look like a Thermite Reaction. Here it is:

Or they could be the burning of embers of just about any combustible solid that might have been caught in the fire, rather than molten metal. Why is it necessarily molten metal?
Here is a Photo of Firefighters in Front of Columns that Do Look to be Cut by Thermite.

How do you know that they were not cut where they stood by workers clearing Ground Zero? It would only make sense to have them cut in the conspiracy scenario if they were formerly in place where the collapse started. It would be stupid to cut ground-level structural members, because once the collapse had been initiated up high, gravity would have done the rest of the required work. It also appears that they could have been sheared by phasers from the Starship Enterprise.

Why have you, along with most other 9/11 conspiracy theorists, so eagerly lept on the Steven Jones thermite bandwagon? What happened to the explosive demolition hypothesis and the anomalous seismic signal preceding the collapses? It appears that you are throwing whatever shit you can in the hope that something is going to stick.
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post Jul 12 2006, 11:52 AM
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post Jul 12 2006, 12:03 PM
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Or they could be the burning of embers of just about any combustible solid that might have been caught in the fire, rather than molten metal. Why is it necessarily molten metal?
Burning Embers wouldn't Explain the Hot Spots still under Ground Zero weeks after the Collapse. Thermite Would.
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post Jul 12 2006, 12:11 PM
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Burning Embers wouldn't Explain the Hot Spots still under Ground Zero weeks after the Collapse. Thermite Would.


I've already explained why it would and given an example of why it would - seems you don't wanna accept the 'known' though because the 'unknown' is far more appealing. But why?

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post Jul 12 2006, 12:36 PM
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I've already explained why it would and given an example of why it would - seems you don't wanna accept the 'known' though because the 'unknown' is far more appealing. But why?
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I'm just posting what I find Interesting. I'm not Claiming anything. Your Example just doesn't seem as Logical to me. I'm not the one who is Claiming that Thermite was Used.

I'm just saying Thermite would cause things to stay Molten for Long Periods of Time and that it Looks like Thermite. If you want to Believe it is from Jet Fuel and Debris from the Building than do so. That Dog Don't Hunt as they say. IMO.
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post Jul 12 2006, 12:46 PM
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I'm just posting what I find Interesting. I'm not Claiming anything. Your Example just doesn't seem as Logical to me. I'm not the one who is Claiming that Thermite was Used.

I'm just saying Thermite would cause things to stay Molten for Long Periods of Time and that it Looks like Thermite. If you want to Believe it is from Jet Fuel and Debris from the Building than do so. That Dog Don't Hunt as they say. IMO.


That Dog not only does hunt but it bites the ass of anyone who cares to look into the matter properly. I guess there's no making people see who wear blinkers though.

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post Jul 12 2006, 12:52 PM
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Why are thermite reactions necessarily more plausible than debris fires for the alleged hotspots appearing afterward? A thermite reaction does not require oxygen, granted, but will only sustain itself as long as there are reactants available.
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post Jul 12 2006, 01:03 PM
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simple answer is andrew.. thermite fits peoples conspiracy theory plain old burning debris doesnt even though any fire will stay hot if under enough debris for weeks and weeks
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post Jul 12 2006, 01:24 PM
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Ok then. anyone cares to explain why all bomb sniffing dogs where removed from the buildings just a week before it happened then??

As is often the case, 911myths.com appears to have done the leg work in debunking this one. Seems that this conspiracist talking-point is based on a half-truth. (Now isn't that familiar.)

http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_bomb_sniffing_dogs.html

And also why the owner made a insurance policy for terrorist attacks just before it happened?

Oh, lookie here:

http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_insurance.html
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