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Jul 14 2006, 03:56 PM
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Why do you beleive in God/Gods/theism? Is it because since you were a child you have been indoctrinated wiht it? How much has your lifelong enviroment affected your beleif?
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Jul 14 2006, 04:39 PM
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I dont believe in the religion that I was indoctrinated in. I believe in what I do after alot of questioning and consideration of the issue.
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Jul 14 2006, 05:21 PM
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I won't lie, the religion of my parents (Catholicism) played a role in my belief in God. Later, I read about other faiths, Buddhism, Hinduism, and other religions, and reshaped my ideas somewhat, but that hasn't kept me from believing in a Supreme Being.
There have been events in my life that somehow validate his/her existence. Some people may call them luck, coincidence, etc. |
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Jul 14 2006, 05:40 PM
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there's just to much rhythm in the universe..
moon around the earth earth around the sun sun around the galaxy i worship spiral structure |
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Jul 14 2006, 05:40 PM
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I would have to say things have happened in my life that in my opinion validate the existence of a god.
Before those experiences I didn`t believe. I never went to church so that did not influence me. |
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Jul 14 2006, 05:42 PM
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its all about spinning to the right
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Jul 14 2006, 05:55 PM
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Yeah, i think, if only we knew that much, we'll see that it all comes down to natural laws and systems. They are just so complicated and 'advanced', and involve types of matter, energy, time and space, that we haven't yet learned enough about.
God is the basic universal principal for life. Maybe God is magnetism, som sort of energy or a hydrogen-atom. God is everything, because it's the source, or life source, of everything. I don't think there are several gods, like a god for every aspect of life. Whatever he/she/it is it's ONE. God is the interconnectness between all things. God is that what makes it all go like it should go. --just some thoughts. What God is not, is an old man on a cloud, sending people to hell (or heaven, but if you should take the bible literally, nobody goes to heaven today, everyone is a sinner) |
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Jul 14 2006, 06:00 PM
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I think aswell that all the Gods of different religions in the world are actually the same God.
Interpretated different. I haven't been brought up in any way religious. But i've read alot about different believes in the world, and find it comming toghether as one in the end, all of them. I think they are one. Peolpe shouldn't fight each other over belief, if they actually belief in the same thing... |
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Jul 14 2006, 06:04 PM
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My parents have had me going to church ever since I was a baby. But is that why I believe in God? Maybe. But it may also be because of other events that have happened in my life that make me believe in God.
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Jul 15 2006, 12:19 AM
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It is funny, have you ever realise how silly this all turns to be, we were created in such a way that we don't even know exactly how we came into existence, who created us and for what purpose, all we know is that we are here with nowhere else to go. Thus something tell us that there is a supreme being, something powerful, yet this being decided to leave us here oblivious in a total confusion about life, how, when and what it was created for. Human beings have created a million explanations of life but are just a matter of speculations and teories that were embedded when we were children. But hey, that is all we are, children. As a result we must have parents, creators or a creator, whatever you want to call it. We must admit we do not live in the world but in the whirl
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Jul 16 2006, 11:49 PM
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I have utterly rejected the faith in which I was raised. I don't believe anything about it, but I do believe in a creative force.
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Jul 17 2006, 12:32 AM
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It's probably impossible to do but hey if you could indulge me lol - find silence, close your eyes, relax and just think objectively and honestly - if you were all alone in this world and knew nothing of a God - would you create one? Or is it such a powerful concept that once it has been passed onto us we simply can't let it go? I personally believe there is no need for a God - and had my brain not been filled by a God of others I would have no need of him/her/it now, but because of those others he now stalks the farthermost parts of my mind regardless of how dark the place is I try to lose him.
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Jul 17 2006, 01:38 AM
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(Ben) It's probably impossible to do but hey if you could indulge me lol - find silence, close your eyes, relax and just think objectively and honestly - if you were all alone in this world and knew nothing of a God - would you create one? Or is it such a powerful concept that once it has been passed onto us we simply can't let it go? I personally believe there is no need for a God - and had my brain not been filled by a God of others I would have no need of him/her/it now, but because of those others he now stalks the farthermost parts of my mind regardless of how dark the place is I try to lose him.
Ben Curious, Ben...do you really believe what you say here? Is the human mind not ordered to make sense out of the incomprehensible? Would you have created a God? Yes, I believe that you would have. For neither you nor I are any different then the millions that have proceeded us. If you closed your eyes and listened to the silence..what would you hear? Dont try to answer that because I know that you can not. You would hear something but you can not express it. It is the incomprehensible and it fills your being with a yearning that is indefinable. You know what I speak of, Ben. Deny it because you can not name it, if you will...or even give it a ficticous name and clothe it in white robes, if it suits you...but neither approach will come close to the truth. Your need for God is only your desire to grasp the elusive presence that haunts the shadows between your waking life and your dreams and to mutter with your mortal lips the whispers you hear in the silence caught between two breaths. Some will say that our gods were created by us to explain away the natural forces that we once feared. With the only god remaining, the one that we created to have power over our greatest fear....death. But I dont believe that to be true. I believe that our gods are but conscious manifestations of our inner most archetypes. The Father. The Mother. The Virgin Maiden. The Dying Son. The Prodigal Son. The Hero. The Shadow. All these things we once were, are now and will become. But how is it that even the newborn carries within these primative archetypes if there be nothing within us that is transcendent? They are not the conscious creations of the ego. Rather, the ego is the shaping of the conscious self from these inborn, transcendental archetypes. |
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Jul 17 2006, 01:49 AM
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(iwant2believe2) Curious, Ben...do you really believe what you say here? Is the human mind not ordered to make sense out of the incomprehensible? Would you have created a God? Yes, I believe that you would have. For neither you nor I are any different then the millions that have proceeded us. If you closed your eyes and listened to the silence..what would you hear? Dont try to answer that because I know that you can not. You would hear something but you can not express it. It is the incomprehensible and it fills your being with a yearning that is indefinable. You know what I speak of, Ben. Deny it because you can not name it, if you will...or even give it a ficticous name and clothe it in white robes, if it suits you...but neither approach will come close to the truth. Your need for God is only your desire to grasp the elusive presence that haunts the shadows between your waking life and your dreams and to mutter with your mortal lips the whispers you hear in the silence caught between two breaths.
Some will say that our gods were created by us to explain away the natural forces that we once feared. With the only god remaining, the one that we created to have power over our greatest fear....death. But I dont believe that to be true. I believe that our gods are but conscious manifestations of our inner most archetypes. The Father. The Mother. The Virgin Maiden. The Dying Son. The Prodigal Son. The Hero. The Shadow. All these things we once were, are now and will become. But how is it that even the newborn carries within these primative archetypes if there be nothing within us that is transcendent? They are not the conscious creations of the ego. Rather, the ego is the shaping of the conscious self from these inborn, transcendental archetypes. See what I mean? No sooner had I rejected her/him/it and she's back again lol. Ben |
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Jul 17 2006, 01:57 AM
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lol Denial is a grand thing, isnt it Ben? No matter, you cant lose what you are.
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Jul 17 2006, 02:53 AM
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(iwant2believe2) But how is it that even the newborn carries within these primative archetypes if there be nothing within us that is transcendent?
Genetics...? |
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Jul 17 2006, 02:56 AM
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(a_skeptic) Genetics...?
Not quite...come back with a better understanding of archetypes...then answer
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Jul 17 2006, 03:00 AM
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Oh, well then...
You mean such concepts don't have a thing to do with thousands of years of human evolution? Not one bit? None? |
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Jul 17 2006, 03:06 AM
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And then again, those are nice literary tools, but far and few between do they represent the reality of human nature...
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Jul 17 2006, 03:10 AM
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You mean such concepts don't have a thing to do with thousands of years of human evolution? Not one bit? None?
mmm then perhaps you care to explain how they do? And then again, those are nice literary tools, but far and few between do they represent the reality of human nature...
There is a plethora of academic pyschology to refute your assumption here... |
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