this all can't be just coincidence

In 1974 this massege was sent into space by NASA using the Aricebo teliscope



We then got this response in 2001 at the same field near the telescope that originally broadcast it!





look closely at the bottom, notice the fact that at the bottom portion in the diagram, the last symbol is the "how this message was communicated" section.

The symbol the aliens put in there response was actually tranmited the year before, in the same field!...



More to come

Then this the following year



Cirlcle/disc decoded...

"Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts & their BROKEN PROMISES.[/COLOR]

Much PAIN but still time.

BELIEVE.

There is GOOD out there.

We oppose DECEPTION.

[COLOR=black]Conduit CLOSING."

2004. obviously they want use to pay attention to the Mayan Calender



2012 anybody?


Controversially appearing over two consecutive nights at Silbury Hill, Wiltshire on 2-3 August, according to resident 2012 prophecy expert and numerical conundrum whiz Geoff Stray, this vast wheel of ancient Maya symbols included “the double square spiral - the Maya symbol for jaguar snouts, which indicates an entrance to the underworld”. Given that, as is now widely known, the Maya calendar indicates an end-of-time point in the year 2012, this gave the UK newspapers something to get their teeth into, the Daily Mail dubiously proclaiming it ‘The Doomsday Crop Circle’. Much of the speculation about the 2012 connections made in the wake of this formation was highly questionable, but it made good headlines. Not that the press needed a genuine phenomenon to fill its columns; indeed the Sunday Express went out of its way to debunk the Mayan glyph, devoting two pages to doing this, perhaps in an effort to ‘get one over’ on its rival newspaper.
Among the many claims and counter-claims made about the symbolism of this formation, one widely-circulated e-mail article by C Lewis (pseudonym) from Australia stated the Mayan wheel depicted a ‘Calendar clock’, counting down to 2012.
Joe Mason explains the Aztec Sun Stone Calendar. The outer ring portion of the Stone is said to be twin serpents, one light and the other dark. I believe the two represent the twins, Quetzalcoatl and Xolotl. They relate to Venus, corresponding to The Morning Star and Evening Star. Quetzalcoatl, of course, is also known as Kukulkan (or Kukulcan) and the Feathered Serpent. Perhaps the depiction of two types of feathers in the center of the formation hint at the feathered twins of the Aztecs. They are positioned in a general Vesica Piscis arrangement, also suggestive of duality.

See: Mayan Prophecy of the End of the Great Cycle
http://www.greatdreams.com/mynproph.htm

Whats with the image theft message??I cant see what you posted...

That sucks, they all show up for me

works now

[QUOTE=frozenthought;284850]2004. obviously they want use to pay attention to the Mayan Calender



2012 anybody?

Dear Frozenthought,

Great post. I appreciate your time and effort in bringing this to me!
I would recommend the study of this incident over any other for the sincere searcher of truth about the crop circle phenomena. The data is outstanding!

The 'End of Time' date of 12-21-2012 sounds right to me.

It appears to me that there will be a converging of several events that will culminate in a world cataclysm of mounumental proportions.

My reasons for believing this are as follows:

I have a copy I recently reviewed of the History Channels' program in the series 'Decoding the Past'. This special 2 hour episode was entitled 'Mayan Doomsday Prophecy.'

What I recall, in my personal research of the Mayan people, is that they had a very advanced civilization and that it has recently been discovered, from the deciphering of glyphs from a 'lost city' of theirs that their history is far older than previously thought.

One of their cities was described as 'mathematics petrified in stone'. Their solar calendar is more accurate than our own. They were the only group of people whose ancesters DID NOT claim they were BROUGHT from the stars but rather that THEY CAME from the stars.

Their predictions of solar and lunar eclipses have been totally accurate over the last 1,000 years or so. Their prophecies included one that helped contribute to the collapse of the Aztec Empire of over a million inhabitants by a band of 540 Spaniards.

It seems they predicted the exact date in 1519 when 'bearded, light skinned' people would arrive from the sea and overthrow the mighty Aztec nation. The prophecy included pictures, including the design of the metal helmets that would be worn by the invaders.

The History Channel program went into great detail about some of these things. When the Spanish missionaries came they sought to destroy all records of the Maya. Today, only four 'Codices' remain to tell their story.

One of these is called the Dresden Codice because this 22 foot long record was sent to Dresden, Germany where it was decoded in 1880 by Ernst Fostermont.

To quote the program, 'on December 21, 2012 the noon day sun will exactly conjunct the crossing point of the sun's ecliptic with the galactic plane, while also closely conjuncting the exact center of the galaxy.' This date also coincides with the completion of the Earth's processional 'wobble' in which the planet will change its angular orientation.

I am not an expert in these matters and do not fully understand what I have just stated. I do see it as a little more than coincidental that the Mayans could have known about the great atronomical significance of this date.

According to the program, the Dresden Codice concludes with 15 glyphs that describe what will begin to occur on that date. Half of the glyphs have been erased or are otherwise illegible. What the remaining glyphs indicate is that the world will be destroyed by flood waters and that there will be 'black on high'.

Scientists have been studying the decreased levels of the earths magnetic core and some believe we are on the brink of a 'polar shift'. (Edgar Cayce predicted one in this time.) Those who have studied past shifts from the hardened lava from past shifts have indicated this could occur in a short a period as 3 days in which the planet will 'roll over' in space as much as 15 degrees per day.

What I believe will happen, beginning on 12-21-2012, there will be a massive solar storm on the sun which will bombard our planet which will trigger the 'polar shift'. (The next peak year for solar storm activity is supposed to be 2011/2012.) The greatest danger lies in the possibility that this will be the last shift and that the earths core will solidify, effectively neutralizing the planets protective cosmic shield and sentencing this planet to the fate of Mars. Perhaps we should start building our own 1 x 1.5 mile, 1500 foot high image of OUR face now as a sort of SOS to passing space travelers.

I believe this 'polar shift' will initiate the collapse of the ice sheets in the Arctic and Greenland which will create tremendous tidal waves. When these ice sheets rapidly melt the oceans levels will rise a minimum of 40 feet. This does not take into account what the level of water will be with the melting of the ice sheets in Antartica, which I expect will react in similar fashion.

Coinciding with this cataclysm I believe there will be a significant increase in volcanic explosions, perhaps including one or more of the 40 estimated Supervolcanoes in the world. The Supervolcanoe in Yellowstone Park, which has erupted several times before, has been showing signs of life for a number of years now and is thought to be 30,000 years overdue for its next eruption. The 'black on high' could represent the cloud of volcanic ash that will block out the sun for who knows how long ushering in an Ice Age that may become indefinite.

Even if nothing happens on 12-21-12 scientists tell us that the continuous melting of the ice caps WILL cause the 'thermal escalator' to stop which will create an interminable Ice Age which I believe will occur sooner (within the next ten years) rather than later.

Perhaps, once again the 'Gods' (Elohim) will take some technological steps which will culminate in their being able to once again say: 'Let there be Light!' and they will once again create man in THEIR image and once again promise they will never destroy the world by Flood. (See the Rainbow Covenant in the Bible.) Once again people will believe this because people seem to have a need to believe.

Perhaps after this Apocalypse there WILL BE a thousand year reign of Peace insofar as it will probably take a thousand years to repopulate the planet to point where we can have enough people involved to qualify a conflict as a war.

At any rate, when I consider the amount of misery caused by the rampant greed that has created such abject poverty in the world I sometimes feel that the only thing worse than the world ending after 12-21-12 is its' NOT ending then.

When I consider what living conditions will be like after that date I sometimes feel that the only thing worse than perishing during the Great Catastrophe would be trying to survive afterwards.

This is no time to be depressed. It is a time to be grateful. We should live life to the fullest now while we can. When that day comes I believe I will go to be beach and await my Spirits' liberation from this body while contemplating the Native Americans' mental mantra 'It is a good day to die!'

We've had a good run on this planet. It's not everyones fault that we have allowed things to get so bad that even our 'Space Brothers' are afraid to assist us outside of giving us warning messages in the 'crops'.

__________________________

'It seems those most afraid of death are those who have done the least with their lives.'

CORRECTION:

THIS is the most interesting and informative crop circle incident I made reference to in my previous post. (I was unable to view the design when I posted my reply).

What the alien creator of these designs reveals about himself and his world is fascinating! How the creator of these two designs was able to deciphyr the binary coded message and relay it back, using the same format, to the precise location of its origin is mind-boggling to me!

___________________

'Behavior is the mirror in which every person displays their image.'

I know exactly what you mean, you really coomunicate your ideas very well, I believe you are correct on all points, But I also think there are other just as possible outcomes to this story. This is the Outcome that i believe is in our near future..

Time line between now and 2012

2006 to 2012 activity

A. Topple American/Iluminatti - Watch for news of 911 being a inside job revealed to the masses as the beggining of this step towards 2012 I'm thinking anyday now to no longer than early 2007, it's starting to unfold on our news right now.

B. New "Galactic" Gov't is revealed, It won't actually be called that, it will be seen as "fixes" for all the Gov't curruption being implemented.

C. Not long after item "B" we will have First Contact with ET's, many many races and we will find out about the Et's participation in humanties new found freedom and all it's benefits.

D. Massive education on what's truly happing in this "end time" cycle we are in, both Galactic, to our own Solar System and our own upcoming Earth Changes. I believe the ET message encoded in the crop image "Much Pain but there is still time" i believe this involves a massive program to help cleanse and clear up Earth pollution with the help of ET technology to help the Earth get ready for the Pole Shift.

All Before 2012 when the "pole shift" will happen, we will not be on the surface so it will not be the end for humanity, rather a new beginning. There is plenty of room aboard the star Motherships for all of us.

The meek shall inherit the "New" pristine Earth!

Here's some links to a video, in three parts, about the Mayan calendar by Ian Lundgold that i have heard is very enlightening. And that it is very good.

I have been doing research into the Mayan calender because i don't know much about it, and it seems like the ET's are telling us we should look into what wisdom was being communicated through the Mayans.

Part 1. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4...=mayan+calendar

Part 2. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=31...=mayan+calendar

Part 3. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=51...=mayan+calendar

Another message that is almost the same as the "face & Disk" crop circle shown in film.

http://www.gaiaguys.net/APPONO.ASTOS.htm

"We Are Opposed To Cunning And Deceit"

Also they encoded the phrase "The Knowledge will begin in Mexico" in another crop circle, I'll see if I can find the link

I just found what Crop circles appeared in August 2006, and what i found was another Mayan calander connection! Don't know what it really means but seems to fit in with the "Theme"

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2006/et...mpton2006a.html

I'm gonna start to watch these movies, perhaps it will shed some light on what the ET's are trying to tell us

It was actually "The knowledge will begin in serpent" was written in ancient hebrew on a mountain top after people saw stranges lights flying around the mountain..They figured the serpent was Mexico because of the connection with the serpent...Does the word ancient hebrew word Elohim ring a bell? A coincidence.

Dear Frozenthought,

I thank you again for your diligence and dicipline as well as your tenatiousness in researching and locating the valuable information you continually offer! (I will view what you have provided and get back to you on it after I have digested it.)

I sent Lucy Pringle (Crop Circle Website Mistress) an E-mail asking if she could remember or locate the crop message 'We dislike cunning and deceit.' I saw the report on a 'Sightings' program and knew I had it in my video library but could not locate it because it was not a featured segment but rather a section of 'In the News' and I did not notate it when I listed and then filed the videotape away. Lucy Pringle replied she did not know what I was talking about even though the details I provided her were exactly correct from my memory. It seems you found what she could/would not!

Due to your tireless effort and staunch perserverance you are a very valuable person to me and many other sincere seekers of truth. In my opinion you are one of the most important people to this world!

I sense that you are an optimist. You may also be young. (under 25). These two tend to go hand in hand. I would love to have your hope and optimism however I consider myself to be a realist.

If Americans could see some 'baby steps' taken towards making our Government more transparent like releasing all the secret documents in the JFK assassination, it would be a cause for celebration and a step in the right direction in fulfilling your belief.

As I mentioned in a previous post the current administration is spending the equivalent of $134 to keep secret every document that it could/should declassify to us. The cost to declassify each document is approximately $1.

I can't even imagine a terrestial power that could exist that could expose the American/Illuminati. On the contrary it seems to me that our Government is getting stronger every day with its steady erosion of our civil rights due to the laws that have been enacted for the War on Terrorism as well as the War on Drugs.

Perhaps you believe the exposing of the American/Illuminati will come from the 'Galactic Government' you speak of. The 'fixes' for Government corruption would be a Herculean task even for ET. After all we are still dealing with basic human nature.

I remember an episode of 'Outer Limits' in which the introducing announcer asked: 'If power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely how will the human race ever survive?'

Unless ET is able to locate sufficient numbers of individuals who would be willing to serve in powerful positions and not be tempted by their new found power I don't see how we avoid a repeat of what we already have. It seems to me the only thing most people can't seem to be able to resist is 'temptation'. Didn't Jesus himself tell us to pray: 'Lead us NOT into temptation'?

Besides, I believe the truly wise people would be hard to locate. An ancient sage once said: 'The greatest person is nobody.' Another favorite saying of mine: 'The Gods offer to every person the choice of power or happiness, They do not offer both.' Which choice do you think the truly wise have made?

Your belief in the beneficience of ET is commendable however it should be tempered with the realization that not everyone will be saved by being taken aboard the 'Motherships'. There are some things that are even better than a protracted existence in this physical world.

Ask those who have 'crossed over' and returned to speak of it and perhaps you too will lessen your desire to hold onto this worldly existence when your time comes. It has been said: 'The Angel of Death, when It approaches It is terrifying; when It arrives It is Bliss.'

Desire for anything automatically carries fear and the subsequent anger when we fail to get what we desire. Again the sage says: 'Happiness arises, not from an increase of possessions but from a decrease of desires.'

I look forward to many future exchanges with you! You have a good heart and a generous and positive nature. Keep up the good work and let your light shine so that many honest seekers will be able to see more clearly!

_____________________________

'The wise person will always seek to associate with someone who is wiser than he is.'

The wise man is not concerned if others do not appreciate him, the wise man is only concerned if he does not appreciate them.'

All so very true. How can we Stop the Absolute Powerful when they seem to be so Untouchable? Seems Imposible because we may have let them get out of reach of Justice. I hope I'm wrong!

If they want to send us a message why would they use crops? Obviously its impossible to verify crop circles, so wouldn't it be better to have flying space ships and light shows?

How about this one Pred, they could try "writing" in one of the more widely spoken human languages?

Even if the message was remotely authentic, this message could very well be written by false prophets themselves. After all, doesn't the bible warn against such.

Also, how can we be sure of interpretation.

After all, anyone who speaks more than one language can attest that sometimes when translating from one language to another something gets lost in translantion.

But still BG, the general message can usually be gotten across. Besides, landing a large Alien Vehicle in the Mall in Washington, or some other major nation's capital could send a much clearer message than destroying folks wheat and/or corn crops...

Yeah, I know what you mean. I feel bad for the farmers because their work is very hard and face many economic struggles to have to deal with this.

I saw a report once where an English farmer had lost quite a bit of revenue thanks to these things... Frankly, whether you believe they are hoaxers or aliens, I know most farmers would just like to see the perpetrators get a swift kick in the ass...