I noticed that a lot (not most) Blame a lot of garbage on the government and other things that are so ridiculous. Mostly being the US government which i think is bs when people bash it left and right.

The US government could and probably have alien space craft. Why they don't tell us they got it?
Theres a lot of reasons that they don't just say HEY LOOK I GOT A ALIEN SPACECRAFT! I will list a few MAJOR reasons below

1. Security reasons, Theres a lot of countries who would love to know everything the us government has as technology so in case of feature engagements they can counter attack anything. Most alien crashes were in the cold war. If some of you people did a little research you'd understand there was a lot of moles selling secrets that are costly to wartime. Why didn't we tell everyone we had a U-2 spy plane?! DUH if the Russians knew (which they did figure out) we had a high flying plane that could take good photos like that they'd know where to look wouldn't they?

2. "oh no the government is killing people?! zomg! No there not there basically saying PLEASE don't tell anyone this technology you promised not to and signed a form. But there like "well i don't think they actually mean it! Well tough luck they do.

3. People are stupid. Dose anyone remember the war of the worlds broadcast way back then, and remember the actions of the people. Imagine that again.

4. "there hiding it out of greed!" Yes they are just like 9/10 of you hide your sodas somewhere in the fridge and hide your snacks somewhere. They cant let everyone have it! Or it'll be the Atomic bomb situation all over again. The US made the atomic weapon and tested it a lot. They didn't just say here Russia take it no. The Rosenberg's sold that to the Russians for money! Theres your general public not giving a shit to our country. Thats why we don't now.

5. Do they have flying saucers? Yes probably but its like giving a F-16 to a aborigine and tell him "HERE REVERSE ENGINEER THIS AND TELL ME HOW IT FLY". "I ALSO WANT YOU TO FIGURE OUT HOW THE FUEL SYSTEM IS RAN AND HOW IS IT AFFORDABLE"!

What do i believe happened?

1 Roswell i believe happened
2. Russian never retrieved anything. If they did ti was very badly busted and beyond any info.
3. Germans had flying saucers that didn't work. Good ideas a few of them "worked" But not good for anything.
4. Black helicopters is a dumb conspiracy grow up.

About George bush. Hate him if you like but there is worse than him! Hes gone through a lot and hes made a couple bad decisions. But would Kerry or gore be half of what George would be NO!.

Also hate George for actually reasons. I don't wanna hear hes sending our boys over there to die! Tell the boys that and 8/10 will beat the shit out of you. Because thats a stupid thing to say. Get some common sense and understand when you join the military you are expected to fight. Don't want to? Then don't join and shut up.

You may all have your own political views and i some what respect that. Don't like bush then don't not a problem just give me a decent explanation thats intelligent.

Also if offended anyone i am sorry but those are my views. Now if my spelling is wrong i am sorry as i have spell checked this.

What do i believe happened?

1 Roswell i believe happened
2. Russian never retrieved anything. If they did ti was very badly busted and beyond any info.
3. Germans had flying saucers that didn't work. Good ideas a few of them "worked" But not good for anything.
4. Black helicopters is a dumb conspiracy grow up.

Did you read "Pentagon Aliens" by Lyne or are you retreading an old tire.

1. It was a cover for real Tesla type saucers in New Mexico under
Von Braun.
2. Never into that one, I have no opinion.
3. NAZI cover saucer programs but one electrical field type did work.
4. You mean purple clouds that hover, its just the saucer warming up
and it won't light up unless the Bessel vibrations get out of sync.
Other than that I don't know about black helicopters.

Yes, our great and fantastic need to hide things from each other. The world is getting rather peaceful lately but some people will stop at nothing to end that.



Last time I checked people are starting to change. What was that famous line? "You can fool some of the people some of the time, you can fool some of the people all of the time, you can fool all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. You are right about what happened, but don't forget that people can change, they are comeing to the point that they must change and so they are.

Yes people are stupid. But given a chance and some trust, you may find them brighter than you once believed.



Lol, yes, that is what it is like for them. Drowning in false concepts of how our universe works, they see things that are based on real laws and then add in 70% false ideas on how it was done. Effectively blocking their ability to work with it. But, I think that slowly, they are finding the real world knocking when they see the real world in action.

We see scientists declaring that they have a very high understanding of the universe often. Clueless to the fact that allot of what they know was preimagined and voted on by people as true. "See that? Poop and dirt are both brown, thus they are the same" kind of logic.



I rather agree with you here. You seem to have a correct obsevation.



There is something that happens when you give a person a gun and tell him he will use it to shoot the enemy. He starts looking for who to shoot with it! When you think your job is to defend against the evil in the world, and you are given a gun, grenades, missiles, warheads, battleships, fighters, tanks, etc, you must assume that this is what it takes to stop "that truly horrible enemy out there", am I wrong? Why else is all that necessary?

Do you realize why cave men don't fight with guns, missiles, battleships, etc,? It is not that they are too stupid to use them. It is that they are so complex you can't just pull one out of your pocket. It takes, research, factories, maintenance, supply lines, mines, funding, organizations and so on. It takes so much you can easily forget it ALL must be present or it ALL will fail. Try it some time, find a missile and go look at the price tag on all the stuff inside. Made in China, Made in USA, Made in India, Made in Japan, on and on. It is allot of work.

Did you ever wounder just how many people it takes to make this stuff? Consider that only a hundred years ago, 1/4th the worlds population could not do it. That's right, it takes billions of people keep this stuff going. Take out any of it, and it will fail. Take out just one major country and it all gets stopped or slowed big time. Did you see what happened when Russia fell? Poof, we have peace whether we like it or not. So here comes the next threat, it was never good enough to challenge us before, why is it now? Well, some how it got that way. If China ever comes up to being ablt to offer us a challenge, terrorism will disapear. Why, because the real people we are fighting don't have that much power. It just costs too much.

Even our enemy depends on us for their weapons. Don't believe me? Then don't you ever, EVER!, look with your own eyes! You will not like what you see.

War and fighting have their place, but there is a long road ahead before we all will come see that we as a race have little need for it. It is allot less costly to interrupt it than to spend the money and time needed to fight it.

To the troops overseas, do what good you can, because that is all the good that will come of it, it up to you to use it wisely.

This also is a wakeup call for those that think alien populations have only 3 billion or something. No, try 40 billion or more. Some can reach numbers of 6 or 8 trillion or more at their highth. "No way" you say, well, I can't make you see what you don't want to. Still think we are overpopulated? We may need more worlds to get bigger numbers but we are quite small. We have a population that is appropriate for our tech level, why else do you thing we have as many as we do?



Respect what you will, but true respect belongs not in "everyones opinion". It belongs in the ones that have the best future for you, me and every one else (even the ones with poor opinions). You can even bakeup the many opinions that a person can have into the better ones and respect those. Who knows, if you do this, you may get even more good opinions out of this one person, and eventually, (after you do this enough times) you can have a very respectable people. I doubt it happens any other way.

REASON ONE: they lied and spent your money on the ET cover

RESULT: so they can't say and you will never know what true science is

REASON TWO: it does not use oil

RESULT: if they tell, no one gets a payday, this already happened resulting in WWII

So no one messes with the oil payday and the secret people have their UFOs.
Banks and oil trusts most likely control the secrets and keep you in the
dark with lots of entertainment and things for you to do in your spare time.

It now includes the internet forums for conspiracies aliens and UFOs and
all the other popular internet forms.
And I guess thats why we are here. Otherwise we would be wily nilly going
place to place like surrounding broken tethers.

ALM.....how did an oil payday result in WW2?

I really think they are watching sure....but there is no need to control conspiracy forums