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post Mar 21 2004, 02:00 AM
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ARE they watching? or were they watching us?

Needed some new content around so i decided to share what ive been checkin out lately.

Ok now basicly what happened was, in 1899 that Tesla
detected the phenomenon which he described as an interplanetary
communication. He described as
"periodically, and with such a clear suggestion of number and order
that they were not traceable to any cause then known."

At the time they thought the signals were from another planet in the solor system.
They even conducted an experement last time mars was close. Thinking the signal was from Mars. But later realized the signal was closer.

Professor Ronald Bracewell of Stanford University and astronomer Duncan Lunan of Scotland theorized that the 1927 signals might have come from an alien probe in orbit around the sun or the Earth. The 1927 signals
seemed to have come from one of the Lagrange points in the moon's orbit.

However it would make more sense to me that they would be in the planets lagrange points.
Anyways the pics illustrate the points.
We currently have a satalite at one of the points.

The L4 and L5 are stable spots that we can place satalites and get stable orbits.
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_mm/ob_techorbit1.html (explains the larange points)

Later; in 1924, A radio-photo message device was used to record the signal,the Incoming radio signals received were converted to light signals which, were printed on a reel of photo-sensitive tape five inches wide.

A detailed and quantitative analysis of the signals received
by Dr. David Todd in 1924 is the subject of a paper currently in
preparation by Mr. C.D. Jackson of the IBM Systems Analysis
Group, in Bethesda, Maryland. This paper, entitled ' An
Experiment in Extra-Terrestrial Communications' will be offered
to the American Rocket Society at a future meeting.
Id like to talk to that guy!

sources:
http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/update...v/m22-008.shtml
http://ufos.about.com/library/weekly/aa112000a.htm
And some other tesla crud, i forgot the links. They were just to verify that the signals were recieved etc.


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post Mar 21 2004, 02:16 AM
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Hey that's great stuff =M= a bit above my head but I can see the implications and understand what you mean. I've never heard of any of this stuff before..thanks for bringing it to our attention.

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post Mar 21 2004, 02:26 AM
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I liked the pic, so i had to use the lagrange info, hehe
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post Mar 21 2004, 02:08 PM
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Professor Ronald Bracewell of Stanford University and astronomer Duncan Lunan of Scotland theorized that the 1927 signals might have come from an alien probe in orbit around the sun or the Earth. The 1927 signals
seemed to have come from one of the Lagrange points in the moon's orbit.


This is really neat. I hope their was a singal. Maybe the aliens are trying to communicate with us. That's great.

Yes, aliens are watching us. We have been shooting signals out into space. I wonder if they watch tv. I love the aliens. I hope they are watching. Someday before I die I want to talk with one. Even if they are evil aliens. Maybe their is some kind of federation. I hope they are watching. I also hope Earth gets to join someday.
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post Mar 21 2004, 03:58 PM
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Now if you worked for seti wouldnt you be interested in this ?
They seem to ignore it. And having Nikolai Tesla be the guy that intercepts the message, seems like a very credible witness.(amongst other independand scientists, including Marconi; the guy that invented radio.)
If you dont know anything about Nikolai you should defenently grab a book and read up. He's one of the people who contributed to all the electronic wonders we have today.
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post Mar 22 2004, 07:11 AM
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Interplanetary communication even through the primitive devices of 1900s was a common notion those days.
Around that time, a Catholic priest informed the Brazilian government that he invented an operational radio and requested to test it aboard of the Navy's battleships. The experience only did not happen because he alleged that the range of the devices was literally interplanetary (Schiapparelli theory of the Mars Canals was very popular at that time) and he was reputed as insane.
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post Mar 22 2004, 06:21 PM
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lamens terms please..
i dont get any of that at all... care to re-iterate? pleeeasseee smile.gif
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post Mar 22 2004, 07:52 PM
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well if thats in reference to my post...here goes

when we were first developing radio, there was these 3 guys doing most of the
work. All 3 of them independantly, or without help from the others, recieved a
signal from outerspace. The signal had a pattern, but was never publicly deciphered. Currently some guy from IBM is trying to figure out what it says.

When the signal was first recieved, there was no earthly technology in space.
However if someone wanted to put something in space to follow us around, and monitor our progress they would put it in a Lagrange point, As shown above in the picture. The point L4 and L5 are the only places something could stay in without drifting away.

On a side note i think we should put a satelite in the lagrange point of edna.
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Yeah that would be a good idea m
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cmon dont let it die.... someone debunk this.
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for the newer folks that think the "WOW" signal was all thats been recieved.
/smirk
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post Aug 6 2004, 01:22 AM
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I think theres proof everywhere of them watching us.
What was the "WOW"
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post Aug 6 2004, 01:25 AM
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If we did indeed receive signals in 1927 from outer space, we won't ever again. That's the sort of thing you only get to do once.

Were I observing a species develop, I'd cease communicating via conventional means as soon as they had the technology to detect it.

They probably had an "oh, shit" moment and immediately cut communication via radio waves.

By the way, for those of you who don't know, Nikola Tesla worked with Thomas Edison for a time, although they didn't like each other.
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This is all very interesting. Does anyone remember the story where a signal was once recieved...upon printing out the data is was apparently thought it resembled a crudely drawn face? Its really amazing to think there could be another civilastion out there who have reached a stage where we were in the mid 20th Century...and might be trying to contact us by sending us their broadcasts of The Benny Hill Show smile.gif
No seriously though, if I look at it in those terms...it seems almost like a very low chance project.
The Earth has been here over 3.5 Billion years...man has turned up after this time and has only been here around 2-3 million years...and only in the last 60-70 odd years we have been able to get to this level of technological advancement where we can think of long distance planetary communication. What are the chances that another race is out there that has followed the same chain and time of evolutionary events to reach this similar level and have sent signals at the correct point in time (note...if they are 1000 lights years away...those signals would then had to have been sent 1000 years ago)...and then for us to check the millions of frequencies and hit on one frequency at the correct time...etc etc etc. Do we have more chance of winning the lottery many times over?

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What was the "WOW"

The Big Ear Wow! Signal
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Well I just dont get it, so I'll this this alone.
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I think it would be save for the aliens to come and show themselves for the whole world to see as it world change every1 4 the better. It would help us hopefully to get along with each other, even with those that are really different who need there help instead and it could even stop wars, cause they'll all end up looking up if they really showed themselves instead behind all the clowds to cover themselves.

If they R watching us, they'll probably be checking out the news on they're television system to c when its save to introduce themselves to us.

I hope they do b4 the ice age of doomsday comes. I'll b1 wanting to get off this planet then with them. No matter what there like. And they should leave the really nasty people behind and only take me and other good people up.

Please come aliens if you've logged onto this site. Let's start to talking to the aliens if there on these message boards. Let's keep giving them the sign that we want them to join forces with us in public for the better of all the galaxy and planets.
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Are you kidding? An alien presence revealed would crumble the foundations of the world's major religions, thrusting us into anarchy and chaos. Not to mention those who would perceive the aliens as bad and would attempt to kill them and those who support them.
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im not sure i understand what it would do to religion. Religion is a very dynamic
structure. It merges and reconstructs itself with whomever it encounters. I would
think what we would see is religion all the sudden comming out and saying that theyve
known all allong and that earths mission in the universe is to spread the message to other planets.
The damage would happen when the technology sharing happens.
We all the sudden would have no use for fossle fuels and such wich would crate a cataclysmic stockmarket crash and ruin some 3rd world countries who's sole dependance is on supplying the richer nations with those fossile fuels. Not to mention billions of people would be out of jobs. Having alien technology all the sudden plentifull and not slowly integrated (like it is now) would have a tremendose affect on the way money is distrabuted around the globe. Its all about money. not religion. Im willing to bet allot of that junk the vatacin locks away probly has a direct implacation to UFO's
meddling in religious affairs. but thats catholics for ya ... anyways, sally forth.
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I think it would be save for the aliens to come and show themselves for the whole world to see as it world change every1 4 the better. It would help us hopefully to get along with each other, even with those that are really different who need there help instead and it could even stop wars, cause they'll all end up looking up if they really showed themselves instead behind all the clowds to cover themselves.

If they R watching us, they'll probably be checking out the news on they're television system to c when its save to introduce themselves to us.

I hope they do b4 the ice age of doomsday comes. I'll b1 wanting to get off this planet then with them. No matter what there like. And they should leave the really nasty people behind and only take me and other good people up.

Please come aliens if you've logged onto this site. Let's start to talking to the aliens if there on these message boards. Let's keep giving them the sign that we want them to join forces with us in public for the better of all the galaxy and planets.



I don't know if they're gonna show up, but at least they have your adress.. ahah
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