I think the US army/airforce have caused themselves a massive problem with Roswell i mean they issued a statement to say they'd captured a flying saucer then 24 hours later re-tracted the statement and have spent the last 60 years denying it was a saucer they said it was a weather balloon then when really pushed they said it was Project Mogul which anyway you look at it Project Mogul was a weather balloon with a fancy payload the military closed off roads sent in teams of men flat bed trucks everyone was sworn to secrecy all to retrieve a weather balloon im not an expert on these things i know a weather balloon is quiet big when its inflated but sureley if it was on the ground and deflated it could have been put on the back of a pick-up truck or something i think this was something much bigger and thats the big problem with Roswell.

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oskar, you're quite correct in your posting.The U.S. Military have created the "smoking gun" for themselves. Obviously no-one had been properly briefed in the event of a UFO being captured. I believe that the truth was told followed by a hasty, ill conceived cover story that has resulted in the U.S. Government being held to ridicule and now no-one really believes anything they say.
The Roswell crash, I have read, is coupled with a crash that occured at Corona. The story goes on to explain that two UFO's were caught in the middle of a severe electrical storm which interfered with their guidance and propulsion systems. This resulted in the UFO's actually colliding in mid-air with one crashing at Roswell and the other crashing at Corona. As far as I am aware there was at least one survivor of this crash who was taken into custody by the U.S. Military. When questioned he explained , probably by sign language or pictographs, what had happened. This is how the U.S. Military were able to determine that E.M.P.( Electro Magnetic Pulse) Radar when directed at UFO's could bring them down. Conventional weapons have so far been unable to achieve this even to this day.
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The whole thing is retarded. A weather balloon explodes into millions of fragments as it lands? Even with the gear on board I find it hard that it got thrown everywhere. I wonder if someone took a photo of it, left the area before the Military got there and never talked about the photo to anyone. Somewhere possibly in Rosswell there is a house with a photo stashed in it somewhere.

When you think about it, it's just mind manipulation.

If you believe that it was a UFO then you're stupid and easily fooled, but if you believe its a weather balloon then you're an intelligent good citizen. Either choice and you're screwed.

Why go to all the bother if it was only a weather balloon? why even bother with a statement? from what i remember the Foster Ranch (were the debris was found ) was quite a drive from Roswell so its not as if the townsfolk would have been rushing to see the debris field yet again the military caused themselves a big problem by closing off roads and just being present must have caused the local people of Roswell to think there's something not right here as i said previously if it was a weather balloon why didnt they put it in the back of a pick-up truck they could have drove out picked it up drove off job done end of story

Maybe the chemical makeup of the balloon itself was of such hightech significance that to allow it to fall in the hands of a Russian spy would have been unacceptable and besides being private land on which it rested the owner of said balloon could have been subject to stiff litter laws.

Project Mogul was a high altitude balloon designed to monitor Soviet nuclear tests....it was full of radiation sensers and transmitters and since it was to fly at extreme hieghts it was made of exotic metals.....sounds like something that should have been kept secret at the time.

we knew about Joe I almost before Stalin in 1949...so something was working.

The whole coverup doesent make sense, there would be no reason to swear anyone to secrecy about anything in regards to the cold war. A few people who know of something crashing isnt gonna tip off the Russians about anything. There was alot of fear and hysteria regarding the Russians though we have to consider the mood of the times.

The rushing around and the coverup just doesent add up though.

As iv'e said given the location i hardly think Russian spies would have been queing up to capture this balloon also if it was Project Mogul do you honestly think something as secret and sensetive as that that the a russian spy would have got near it sorry Dave it was bigger than that

You are right in what you bring up oskar.

The military did create a big hole plus they have given so many "plausible" explanations as to what happened. In the report made on July 9th claiming it was a weather balloon; the military has since thought of other explanations such as a V-2 rocket, and Japanese balloon bomb as well as others before settling on the original story that was published in '47.

And besides, it could not have been a weather balloon because what about the bodies that were claimed? A weather balloon and bodies just don't mix. The military has also given multiple explanations for that too such as rhesus monkeys (*but they weren't used until 1948*), and they have also claimed that they were badly burned victims, and crash test dummies. And then once they stayed with the "true" weather balloon story, they just tossed out the bodies all together.

No matter which way you spin it, the government either knows something that we don't, or the government is just trying to cover their butts because they don't know what the heck went on.

I think they new what happened at Roswell and have spent 60 years denying the original statement that they'd captured a flying saucer as you rightly point out 47 the bodies explanations were ridiculous i mean it didnt take people long to disprove the test dummy theory they've issued reports, final reports all costing many thousands of dollars why if it was only a bloody weather balloon

Precisely. Why spend so much time (and so many years) to keep making the claim that it was just a weather balloon?

If there weren't so many factors to this case, it would be easy to dismiss but there are a lot of things that just frankly don't add up with what the government has given as an explanation.

That's one hell of a long sentence.

That's nothing. I've written longer sentences than that.

AS...there was not alot of distrust in security after Klaus Fuchs sold out the Manhatten Project....after the Arnold sighting in June 1947 I'd say General Ramey used the saucer idea first...then after a communication from Truman had to change the idea to a weather balloon since Mogul was a balloon.

It may go against all the UFO researchers...but it could still be feasible.

Krieger99 were's your in-put were's your comment do you have a point of view or are you a smart arse who criticises people's spelling and punctuation if you read the rules when you joined this site you'll see one of them is not to criticise people's spelling etc there's a reason for no puncuation but im not willing to discuss with someone as smart arsed as you ps are you an english teacher or something

This is some good information I could use some day to prove aliens exist.

Bravo i know what your saying about the distrust in security but they didn't even need to issue a statement let alone say it was a flying saucer on reflection the military must understand why they've made it difficult for themselve's i mean they could have said they'd captured anything if they had to but a flying saucer did they not think people would at least be curious

ROSWELL = ALIENS CRASH
GOVERNEMENT= LIES.

That says all.

Heh. Roswell = Alien CASH ~ Government = Laughing at everyone