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Jun 1 2007, 07:39 AM
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http://www.ufocasebook.com/strangecraftdrone.html Was hoping for an alien craft, but not this time. |
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Jun 1 2007, 07:53 AM
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Ive seen some other pictures of this on this website! Not a UFO as you know but it looks kinda cool huh? I thought it was just photoshopped in the other pictures, but its actually real, i think...
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Jun 1 2007, 08:00 AM
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It may well be. You have a picture of it?
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Jun 1 2007, 08:02 AM
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I dont know how to find them, somebody posted a few good pictures on this site, you'l just have to search for them
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Jun 1 2007, 08:04 AM
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I am good at finding that kind of stuff. Lots of it out there, just have to know where to look.
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Jun 1 2007, 08:06 AM
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Thats bullshit cause if true then our government has mastered anti-gravity.
There's no way those "propellors" could lift that drone |
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Jun 1 2007, 08:51 AM
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The article on the UFOcasebook site is suggesting the alleged ufo is a drone used by Utility companies and is also suggesting the object is a top secret ‘black ops’ project being used by the Utility Companies? Anything to keep the myth alive???
And the US Forestry Service is in on the cover-up!!! Right… “A UFO Casebook forum member contacted the State of California Park Forestry Service and asked them if they were familiar with such a drone." The Park Service is said to have replied with “There are no science or research projects at Sequoia National Park involving craft like these, and no one I spoke with has any knowledge of it.” The article sarcastically refers to the Park Service’s reply indicating the Service is in on the cover-up. UFOcasebook (ufocb) story goes on to say, “Our government would never have posted such an image on the Internet due to its nature.” It’s nature being what? The ufocb story suggests the ‘craft’ “may be an energy systems monitoring drone” and our Govt. and all its agencies are in on a conspiracy to cover it up… Good Grief The ufocb was inspired to publish the article when the guy, (the one who submitted his ufo pic on the internet) in Alabama talked with ufocb and insisted the picture of the object he submitted is the real deal and he don’t even know what ‘photoshop’ meant… ufocb believed him on the grounds “We think he is sincere” and then they went on to promote the above article. Excellent investigative work ufocb…NOT My question is: How is it the guy in Alabama is the only person in the whole State to have witnessed and photographed this object? Considering the article suggests these drones are ‘in use’ right now, we should have had “verifiable” pics of these objects from all over. Is this another attempt by the hoaxers to keep this sighting alive? ~rore
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Jun 1 2007, 09:35 AM
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No, not the utilities company. The Department of Energy are the ones that regulate energy systems monitoring drones.
There are actually two possibilities in regard to the levitation of the drone be it up or down to a landing pad. Before I mention the two, nesting is quite possible since the drone has the capability of connecting itself to the power lines and there may even be a specific spot in particular that the drone is directed to go to nest when it is not being monitored itself. First of all, Mr. Smith in Birmingham stated. From: Mr. Smith
Subject: Birmingham, Alabama, "Drone" Above Power Line Date: May 26, 2007 I heard a sound like a transformer and looked up. I saw something that looked like a fancy street light that I thought was part of the pole, just like a light would be. I moved a little to get a shot of it to show the guys. When I did I noticed that the thing was not attached to the pole, but was maybe attached to the wires, it did not move at all. It was stationary. I thought this is something new from Alabama Power. I'll take a picture and show the guys back at work when I see what they think about the job.
White, unmarked pickup truck towing white, unmarked trailer with cable coming out of trailer's open door in May 2006, near Birmingham, Alabama, construction site where Mr. Smith saw and photographed odd, aerial "drone" above power pole. I then went to find someone to ask what the power company was up to. When I found nobody who had time to look, I came back and the thing was gone. I thought, well, the power people got that out of here in a hurry. I figured they used a bucket, one was near, to move it. I thought that is weird and a little later I saw the trucks and trailers and thought that was weird again. I was impressed by the Dodge Rams and took a couple of pictures from my car with my cell phone. And yet another article published by earthfiles. From: R. S., Retired Engineer
Subject: NASA Magnetically Levitated Drone Date: May 26, 2007 "NASA Magnetically Levitated Ducted Fan Being Developed as a Propulsor Option for Electric Flight. See: http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/RT/2003/7000/7720emerson.html "The NASA Glenn Research Center is developing a revolutionary engine concept called the Magnetically Levitated Ducted Fan. The objective of this work is to demonstrate the feasibility of a pollution-free electromagnetic propulsor for all-electric flight. This concept will help to reduce harmful emissions, to reduce the Nation's dependence on fossil fuels, and to mitigate many of the concerns and limitations encountered in conventional engine systems such as bearing wear, leaks, seal failure, and friction loss. The general concept is depicted in the following figure.
Early concept of the Magnetically Levitated Ducted Fan, courtesy NASA. "This fully integrated system concept incorporates many advanced technologies into a new aeropropulsion system architecture. The innovative physical layout consists of a ducted fan drum rotor with blades attached at the outer diameter and supported by a stress tuner ring at the inner diameter. The drum rotor is made of composite material and is contained within a static shell assembly, or "stator." Magnetic fields suspend and support the rotor assembly within the stator. The rotor is driven by modulated electromagnetic fields between the rotor and the stator. Optimal modulation will be achieved via the controller and power electronic drive circuitry between the power source and the propulsor. This concept exploits unique physical dimensions and a large available surface area to optimize a custom, integrated electromagnetic system that provides both levitation and propulsion functions. Advanced technologies developed for particle accelerators, and currently under development for maglev trains and rocket launchers, served as pathfinders for adaptation into the application. "Development of this concept was funded through the Revolutionary Aeropropulsion Concepts (RAC) program beginning in 2003. During this first year, the focus of the work was on the development of the magnetic levitation system. The electromagnetic concept under investigation uses permanent magnet elements attached to the outer circumference of the rotor drum and wire coils placed in the stator shell. The permanent magnets are arranged in a Halbach configuration, which results in the production of a sinusoidally varying, periodic magnetic field in the vicinity of the stator coils. This magnetic array configuration was pioneered by Klaus Halbach for use in particle accelerators. When set in motion, the time-varying magnetic fields interact with the passive coils in the stator assembly to produce repulsive forces between the stator and the rotor, providing magnetic suspension. The beauty of this technique is that it is inherently stable once the rotor reaches a critical speed and, thus, requires no active feedback control or superconductivity as seen in many traditional implementations of magnetic suspension.
Small-scale levitation model rotor, courtesy NASA.
Small-scale levitation model stator, courtesy NASA. "To date, theoretical calculations have been produced to predict the levitation forces developed by a cylindrical Halbach array and coil assembly. Early experimental hardware was successfully designed and developed that validated the basic principles and the theoretical work. On the basis of these findings, a small-scale system was designed that will serve as a levitation demonstration model. The rotor and stator of the demonstration model are shown in the preceding figures. The purpose of this model is to demonstrate stable suspension of a rotorlike body within a stator assembly. "The next step in the development process will be to further develop the electromagnetic propulsion concept and integrate both the magnetic suspension and propulsion function into a single multifunction assembly. In addition to aircraft engines, this technology has potential application in ultraefficient motors, computer memory systems, manufacturing equipment, and space power systems such as flywheels. And, another comment on same......... From: T. C.
Subject: 'Drones' possible Burkhard Heim devices? Date: May 26, 2007 I have been recently investigating a theory on anti-gravity quantum theory by a German Physicist named Burkhard Heim in the 1950's. Dr. Heim passed away on January 14th, 2001, but he basically proposed a new theory on Gravitational Quantum Mechanics as an extension on Einstein's General Theory of Relativity. A few current physicists have been working on this theory and they feel they can produce a device that uses this theory for lift and possible faster than light (superluminal) space flight. What strikes me the most is that the proposed theory uses a rotating circular ring to create a dimensional interaction with an electromagnetic field, which in our 3-D spacetime shows up as an anti-gravity force. There are many papers on this subject from the German HPCC (High Performance Computing and Communication) web site (see links below), the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, the American AntiGravity web site, among others. Currently, the latest paper on the HPCC website, dated 23 April 2007, talks about an experiment with 'Extended' Heim Theory (EHT) which looked promising (see pages 12-13). The drones that have been seen make me think that someone has already passed this experimental stage and have created working atmospheric craft based on these theories, or something *very* close to it! More importantly, the UFO Casebook website is ranked #1 in the catagory of UFO on the entire Internet. The UFO Casebook has more hits then any other UFO website on the Internet. A website that almost entirely commits itself to the discovery of UFOs around the world could hardly be called hoaxes or ones that produce disinformation. . . |
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Jun 1 2007, 09:59 AM
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There is just so much that can go into an article before it becomes a book. We don't want a book, we want an article that portrays a message in as few a words as possible so that the reader doesn't shy from it.
We have more as well but honestly figured that what was presented would be sufficient. Time will tell since now that this article has hit Internet, more will comment on the possibilities. It's only been on the Internet for 3 hours. Give it a few days. . . |
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Jun 1 2007, 10:13 AM
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I think it should be classed as an unknown for now
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Jun 1 2007, 10:57 AM
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On this one, I'll believe when I see it with my own eyes. And don't you worry, I'll take a picture.
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Jun 1 2007, 01:35 PM
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Atru posts: No, not the utilities company. The Department of Energy are the ones that regulate energy systems monitoring drones.
Ahhh, but do they regulate this mythological object that seems to be attracting attention? That is the question. Funny there is more evidence to think this is a hoax than there is real evidence proving otherwise Now, why will the DoE cover-up the existence of an energy systems monitoring drone? And how can they keep this drone a secret from Utility company employees? And the general public? By the way, regarding the truck and trailer pic you posted, the ‘cable’ running out of the trailer appears to be running into someone’s home. Maybe a private contractor doing home repairs? Not some secret govt. organization parked ‘mysteriously’ on a street corner? Thanks for the links to NASA though Atru. Gonna read some more on that engine tech. And yes, I am thinking the Chad et al pics are hoaxed. Heck, I know at least 2 are! Lol ~rore -------------------- Peace&Love~rore
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Jun 1 2007, 02:13 PM
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As coauthor of this article;
http://www.ufocasebook.com/strangecraftdrone.html I believe that based on our "layman" information that is available online and the photos that are exhibited over various websites; and with careful examination of the photographs with non-commercal based photosoftware; that this is indeed NOT an extraterrestrial craft; but quite the contrary. It appears to be a powerline drone (speculate) in the testing phase; that is powered and controled by electricity. Some of the winglets or blades, what ever we want to call them; appear to have hinges on them that allow this to be folded up. The machine is not very large; in fact; only about 2.5 tp 3.5 feet in diameter; more or less (donut shaped part of this image) based on photogrammetry, triangulation and can also be collaborated by basic trig measurements with anyone that wants to measure the image based on background objects with known or approximately known distances. Having said this; without having the physical machine to examine; these observations are what we consider, a concured mutually arrived at opinion, based on information available to date. Tomorrow, more information may come available to refute or dismiss the opinion we arrived at. However, I feel certain it has no ALIEN or ET origin; and is of complete terrestrial origin, manmade. The photographs that are posted various areas on line; do show the rotor shaped things projecting outwards from the donut shaped area; seem to have different configurations; but the mid section of this machine, seems to remain constant in size and shape. Eyewitnesses who have shared information have also mentioned about an electrical hum or eletrical engine sound, which would further add the possilbility is is powered by electricity; and under close examiniation; there seems what appears to be ceramic isolators around the rotor housing part of this; but the photo posted online cannot be blown up large enough substantiate that as fact just yet. All we have to go on is witness reports, photos in various locations; most around power lines that are highly visible; and reports of the witnesses who have seen the machine(s?). Until there are further sightings, further witness collaborations, and unless further information comes avaialble to who manufactured this; we are making what we feel is the best opinion we can based on our information that has been presented thus far. However, I think the evidence so far proves it to NOT be of ET origin. There is obviously someone that knows a great deal about this machine, but has not yet shared that information on the public domain as of yet. But from the perspective of being a UFO of alien origin; it is NOT. Again, basing these observations on that data that is currently available online only; and further evidence may arise to either support or debunk the "opinion" of what some of us feel this could be. EBS |
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Jun 1 2007, 04:26 PM
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I noticed this is a first time post for you here EasternBluestar. Welcome to AU EB!
Clever theory EB. However, there is still absolutely no proof this object is nothing more than what it appears to be: An embedded artifact within a photo. Here’s a novel thought for a true researcher! Tell your Mr. Smith to have his picture analyzed by ‘real’ experts and report back! Makes me wonder why none of the other photos come with a "letter of authenticity". You know, the first photo that showed up here (provided by a C2C link) depicted the object hovering over trees and open country!! No power lines here… http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page2022.html?theme=light I find that odd, in that such a hi-tech device would go sightseeing and not stick to the job you are suggesting it was made for: Ghosting power lines. ~rore -------------------- Peace&Love~rore
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Jun 1 2007, 06:19 PM
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(rorechof;316715) Clever theory EB. However, there is still absolutely no proof this object is nothing more than what it appears to be: An embedded artifact within a photo.
Which photo. There were 6 from one person, 2 from another and 1 from another living in three different areas and even across the country from one another in one case. You know, the first photo that showed up here (provided by a C2C link) depicted the object hovering over trees and open country!! No power lines here… http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page2022.html?theme=light
The first photo was Chads and it wasn't open country, it was foothills where it is common to find power lines. As far as all photos go, don't you think we want originals, don't you think people have asked for photos. They don't want to part with their photos. I think they think they're holding gold or something. I find that odd, in that such a hi-tech device would go sightseeing and not stick to the job you are suggesting it was made for: Ghosting power lines. ~rore
The object has the ability to move from powerline to powerline. |
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Jun 1 2007, 06:25 PM
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Ahhh, but do they regulate this mythological object that seems to be attracting attention? That is the question. Funny there is more evidence to think this is a hoax than there is real evidence proving otherwise
This place never changes. Closed minded trolls. By the way, regarding the truck and trailer pic you posted, the ‘cable’ running out of the trailer appears to be running into someone’s home. Maybe a private contractor doing home repairs? Not some secret govt. organization parked ‘mysteriously’ on a street corner?
Look at the circumference of the cable. If someone brought that on my block (forget my house) I would stop to see what they're doing. You're not a technical individual. And yes, I am thinking the Chad et al pics are hoaxed. Heck, I know at least 2 are! Lol ~rore
Where's your proof that you KNOW at least 2 are hoaxed. I don't think you do |
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Jun 1 2007, 07:07 PM
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I have to say - being completely objective about it - Pilotless drones are in usage for many things - but for a utility company to have them and not 'trumpet' the cost effectiveness of them is unusual - I'm also concerned at the air space issues and the dangers to the general public - there's something 'not quite right' about all of this but I'm damned if I know what it is - A piece of hardware like that aint cheap - and to fly it in such close proximity to trees as seen in some of the pics borders on madness.....I need to think.
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Jun 1 2007, 07:20 PM
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(Ben;316731) I have to say - being completely objective about it - Pilotless drones are in usage for many things - but for a utility company to have them and not 'trumpet' the cost effectiveness of them is unusual - I'm also concerned at the air space issues and the dangers to the general public - there's something 'not quite right' about all of this but I'm damned if I know what it is - A piece of hardware like that aint cheap - and to fly it in such close proximity to trees as seen in some of the pics borders on madness.....I need to think.
Ben Yeah, that's pretty much it. These things look like they are floating almost outside the territory of powerlines. And that hardware certainly isn't cheap. If I saw one scurry along my powerlines, I'd consider blasting the thing down from the line, and taking about 100 pics of it inside and out. Then...I'd sell it on ebay:devil: |
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Jun 1 2007, 08:30 PM
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Atru posts: Closed minded trolls.
Rore posts: You really want to start up with that crap Atru? You and others are promoting a theory that sounds fishy to me and I'm fishin' for "facts". Which you have not provided yet. (Trolls? Isn’t that like something from Dungeons & Dragons?) Atru posts: The first photo was Chads and it wasn't open country, it was foothills Rore: Foothills with no power lines you mean? Open country meaning it looks like nothing around there but nature…geeze Atru posts: Look at the circumference of the cable. If someone brought that on my block (forget my house) I would stop to see what they're doing. Rore: Who says no one stopped to look? What are you saying? You would stop, take a pic of it, put it on the net and tell everybody, "See that cable? That's a sure sign some kinda black ops are going on!" Lol ok Atru posts: They don't want to part with their photos. Rore: Yet you and them want us to take your word they are ‘Real’? Who is being closed minded? Perhaps there is another reason they don’t want their photos examined by specialists hmmm? Atru posts: Where's your proof that you KNOW at least 2 are hoaxed. I don't think you do Rore: Well, I do! Lol Follow the below link, look at the 2 pics in post # 151 and you tell me. http://www.alien-ufos.com/forum/showthread...?t=17836&page=6 Atru posts: The object has the ability to move from powerline to powerline. Rore: Look at the C2C photo I posted a link to on this thread: What power lines? You are doing serious research on this sighting? Then tell me, where does rajman1977 fit into all this? ~rore -------------------- Peace&Love~rore
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