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Jul 28 2007, 12:30 PM
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What do you think is the main reason? For those that choose other, what is it?
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Jul 28 2007, 01:18 PM
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(Aztec Titan;322784) What do you think is the main reason? For those that choose other, what is it?
the other in my opinion is WW3. war is extremely profitable for the powerful. |
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Jul 28 2007, 07:23 PM
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at least an evil leader was removed from power...and a potential source of weapons of mass destruction has been removed from power
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Jul 28 2007, 07:35 PM
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(Castle-Bravo354;322843) at least an evil leader was removed from power...and a potential source of weapons of mass destruction has been removed from power
yeah but now more Iraqis die from violence than when Saddam Hussein was the leader not to mention the us soldiers. Also we are the ones who put him in power and we are the ones who gave him chemical weapons and if your talking about potential sources of wmds why don't we go liberate north Korea. Oh right the ain't got the oil. |
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Jul 28 2007, 08:30 PM
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(Mandelasdiscple;322849) yeah but now more Iraqis die from violence than when Saddam Hussein was the leader not to mention the us soldiers. Also we are the ones who put him in power and we are the ones who gave him chemical weapons and if your talking about potential sources of wmds why don't we go liberate north Korea. Oh right the ain't got the oil.
MD.....many iraqi citizens died when he was in power....yes US soldiers are dead...but then we need to try and win the war....remember Vietnam was not about oil |
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Jul 28 2007, 11:31 PM
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.......were in there because our puppet....errr president's daddy has unfinished business
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Jul 29 2007, 01:12 AM
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Black Gold.
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Jul 29 2007, 03:19 AM
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To struggle against terrorists – and especially against Iran-backed, Iran-trained terrorists.
I was 100% against Chirac’s policy.
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Jul 29 2007, 08:45 AM
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hey maybe were just there for fun? Oh and Castle bravo what was Vietnam about? i never really figured it out
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Jul 29 2007, 02:27 PM
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Mande posts: what was Vietnam about? i never really figured it out
In a ‘Nutshell’ and as far as I can tell: Initially, it was a fight for Independence against the French Empire‘s control of the Nation. The FACT that Viet Nam wanted the French the Hell out of their country required Viet Nam to pay a Huge price for their Independence and subsequent re-unification of their Nation. Then it became a War between Socialism/Communism versus Capitalism/Free Trade … The USA vs. The World…lol Also remember, the USA’s major involvement over there occurred at the height of the ’Cold War’ (Socialism vs. Capitalism)… The Democratic Republic of Vietnam was accepted into the WTO (World Trade Organization) on November 7, 2006 and enjoys a rather robust economy.. They have become a ‘Player’ in the Global Economy Game…Largest rice exporter in the world etc… It seems to me ‘we‘ are in Iraq because Hussein played fast and loose with the Global Economy, creating serious concerns regarding World Economic Stability… Money and Power can go to one‘s head, especially if one is as screwed up as Saddam Hussein was…imo ~rore -------------------- Peace&Love~rore
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Jul 29 2007, 02:57 PM
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[QUOTE=rorechof;322934]
[SIZE=2]The Democratic Republic of Vietnam was accepted into the WTO (World Trade Organization) on November 7, 2006 and enjoys a rather robust economy.. They have become a ‘Player’ in the Global Economy Game…Largest rice exporter in the world etc… yeah but we are not the ones who gave them democracy we lost that war. |
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Jul 29 2007, 03:41 PM
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Mabde posts: we lost that war.
Orrr, one might say we lost the big battles but 30 years later Viet Nam came around with the assistance of the USA et al… However, the price paid in Human Life is no prize to be touted about…imho ~rore -------------------- Peace&Love~rore
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Jul 30 2007, 04:48 AM
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all of the above.
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Jul 30 2007, 08:54 AM
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In a way, aba is right.
Originally to strike back at the terrorists for the 9/11 attacks despite not having all the facts. Afterwards, we did remove Sadam Hussein which was a good thing. A short while later there were some political elections where Iraqis (who never had the opportunity before) cast ballots. We've seen Halliburton stock prices rise. We may be there for the oil, yet, gasoline prices at the pump have not fluctuated much. IMHO: Personally, I don't know why we're still there, but I know deep down we're not leaving any time in the near future no matter what the campaigning politicans say. Some numbers taken from CNN: To date: 3,628 U.S. soldiers killed, 26,806 seriously wounded, Spent & Approved War-Spending - Over $600 billion of US taxpayers' funds. President Bush is expected to request another $140 billion for 2008, which would bring the cumulative total to close to $750 billion. |
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Jul 30 2007, 10:19 AM
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like i said i think the sob's think its fun.
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Jul 31 2007, 09:53 PM
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we will post a permanent base there. just like in germany...
until iraq is westernized, americanized, or globalized |
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Sep 11 2007, 08:23 PM
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To free the Iraqi people now. It started because the trade towers, but there were many other benefactors: The US had said anyone that lets Al Quida train peacefully in their country is our enemy. Hussein wouldn't let the UN in to check for nuclear power. We had to go in with force. Then we find out Hussein is a tyrant. We usurp him, and help the Iraqis. Now, we just got to get their government stabalized. Which might requir a permanent base. Until the radical age dies out there at least.
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Sep 12 2007, 03:12 AM
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Whatever the reasons are you can bet Money is high up the list....
-------------------- Nathanial "a_skeptic" Meade 1979-2007 RIP |
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Sep 12 2007, 03:27 AM
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Presently we are in Iraq to fight the terrorists who are vying for control. This is different to the reason we first went in. Certainly lots of Iraqis are being killed, however they are not being killed in significant numbers by US forces, but by terrorist groups. What is the likely result of an American abandonment of the country? A total bloodbath, and the handing over of a nation state to terrorists and the enslavement of its population. Opponents of the war will be quick to point out that, on the plus side, the Bush administration will be embarrassed and that the Republican party will face greater difficulties in re-election.
Ironically, in order to bring about this end, they often appeal to the racist, conservative notion that Iraqi lives are valueless in comparison to the lives of US soldiers, something which runs completely counter to the egalitarian spirit one is supposed to associate with the global left. Whose side do you think the Iraqi labor movement is on? Those favoring withdrawal are quick to capitalize on reports of atrocities on Iraqis at the hands of US troops but, on the other hand, it is felt that they are just violent and that we should "just let them get on with killing each other." Some have suggested that American troops would be better placed in the Darfur region of Sudan. i.e. that they should intervene in a civil war and pull out of Iraq because the situation there has decayed into civil war (a situation in which the US has actually had some interest). Also, we are told that Darfur presents the worst humanitarian crisis of this millenium so far with 200,000 deaths. But if one is to believe the latest figures bandied about by the "anti-war" movement, in Iraq it is something like 650,000 deaths, which would make it a worse crisis and, in that respect, justify the continued presence of American soldiers. |
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Sep 12 2007, 03:29 AM
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(rorechof;322934) The Democratic Republic of Vietnam was accepted into the WTO (World Trade Organization) on November 7, 2006 and enjoys a rather robust economy.. They have become a ‘Player’ in the Global Economy Game…Largest rice exporter in the world etc… A first class totalitarian police state for the last 30 years...etc |
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