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Mandelasdiscple
post Oct 14 2007, 11:33 AM
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20 Amazing Facts About Voting In The United States

1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S.

2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the US voting machine industry.

3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers.

4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

5. 35% of ES&S is owned by Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, who became Senator based on votes counted by ES&S machines.

6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, a long-time friend of the Bush family, was caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee.

7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's vice- presidential candidates.

8. ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the US and counts almost 60% of all US votes.

9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters.

10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail.

11. Diebold is based in Ohio.

12. Diebold employs 5 convicted felons as developers. These are the people who write the voting machine computer code.

13. Diebold's Senior Vice-President, Jeff Dean, was convicted of 23 counts of felony theft in the first degree.

14. Diebold Senior Vice-President Jeff Dean was convicted of planting back doors in his software and using a "high degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a period of 2 years.

15. None of the international election observers were allowed in the polls in Ohio.

16. California banned the use of Diebold machines because the security was so bad. Despite Diebold's claims that the audit logs could not be hacked, a chimpanzee was able to do it! (See the movie at http://blackboxvoting.org/baxter/baxterVPR.mov.)

17. 30% of all US votes are carried out on unverifiable touch screen voting machines with no paper trail. 18. Bush's Help America Vote Act of 2002 has as its goal to replace all machines with the new electronic touch screen systems with no paper trail.

18. All -- not some -- but all the voting machine errors detected and reported went in favor of Bush or Republican candidates.

19. The governor of the state of Florida, Jeb Bush, is the President's brother.

20. Major statistical voting oddities (odds on the order of 250 million to 1!) -- again always favoring Bush -- have been mathematically demonstrated by experts.

Such amazing odds, the equivalent of statistical miracles these were. Was it God? Or was it Diebold...?
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post Oct 14 2007, 03:20 PM
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Great stuff Md, Thanks! I recorded a program off Link TV on that very subject last year. It said many of the same things you've stated here as well as providing additional information which indicated to me that the last two elections were 'stolen' by Bush.
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post Oct 14 2007, 03:24 PM
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An excellent documentary on the subject is 'Hacking Democracy'.
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post Oct 15 2007, 12:46 AM
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Good stuff Mandela. My only advice would be to give credit to the author so as not to be plagiarizing.
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post Oct 15 2007, 02:20 AM
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interesting stuff, but not exactly startling news, 10 years ago when bush got into power, so bloody hell, i was 8, on the news it said they thought bush had rigged thee election to win over al gore, so we've known this stuff for 10 years, i don't understand why nobody has done anything about it, surely it means his power is illegal and he can be removed from office,
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post Oct 15 2007, 01:09 PM
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That is the problem. Who can remove him from office? The people can't, only congress, and as quick as they are to say shit about him they won't actually do a damn thing. American politics are on the decline and have been for 20-30 years, it has only recently (~10 years) become so evident.
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post Oct 15 2007, 02:17 PM
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Good stuff Mandela. My only advice would be to give credit to the author so as not to be plagiarizing.


sorry i got it from guerillafunk.com
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post Oct 15 2007, 04:02 PM
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MD Great facts! Is there a link so I don't have to copy them all out? smile.gif
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post Oct 15 2007, 05:56 PM
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interesting stuff, but not exactly startling news, 10 years ago when bush got into power, so bloody hell, i was 8, on the news it said they thought bush had rigged thee election to win over al gore, so we've known this stuff for 10 years, i don't understand why nobody has done anything about it, surely it means his power is illegal and he can be removed from office,


Ten years? WTF? Did my time-travel experiment work or something? It was 7 years ago.
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post Oct 15 2007, 08:03 PM
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MD Great facts! Is there a link so I don't have to copy them all out? smile.gif
Cheers Karl


here: http://www.guerrillafunk.com/thoughts/doc000023.html
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