They killed John Lennon, They destroyed the black panther party, they killed martin luther king, and they killed the kennedys. Poor people and miniorites would have been living great right now if it had not been for the FBI.

You're wrong sir. There might be some people in the FBI apart of this but the FBI is not a bad agency.

Beside, I thought it was the CIA responsible for killing lennon.

And on what do you base this statement? Credible links and sources would be nice.

I have never heard that the CIA had Lennon killed. I thought it was just a crazy fan. I know some things are never as they seem, but would the CIA want Lennon dead?:headscrat

http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/assassina...luther_king.htm

the above link is a documentary about the assassination of mlk and the fbi's involvement. Some of the things it outline included:

He had been under surveillance for years by the FBI–in official attempts to tie him to communism and blackmail him.

The fbi as well as other government agencies were found guilty in 1999 in a civil trial of organizing, subcontracting, and covering up the assassination.

The FBI leaked information to the local press that King was staying at the white-owned Holiday Inn, causing him to switch his accomodations to the less secure Motel Lorraine, where he was killed.

there is much more and i reccomend you watch it.

Here is a video about the the fbi's destruction of the black panther party:

http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/fbis_war_...ack_america.htm


oh and trog you are right the cia did kill john lennon. I should have said cia and fbi.

sorry. i didn't mean the entire CIA. people think the CIA is just one group of people but it's in sectors (from what I understand). I believe Montel Williams (yeah as lame as that sounds.. the guy on TV) stated he worked for the CIA as an agent and stated he tried many times to get information about UFOs and on John Lennon as well as JFK and even he couldn't pass certain security levels to gain access.

But these would just be rogue people. It was believed that John Lennon was having an effect on how people voted in America at the time and that it was interfering with the powers.

I haven't seen much to connect the CIA to the Kennedy assassination, though they are linked to Ruby and Oswald and a few other players. Mostly, I see evidence of a conspiracy involving the NSA and the Secret Service.

But with Kennedy, don't even get me started. It isn't about "who was trying to kill Kennedy?" it's more like "Who WASN'T trying to kill Kennedy?"

I admittedly know very little about Lennon, except there doesn't seem to be much evidence of a conspiracy in his assassination (though a case could be made for it). As for an immigration conspiracy: yes, I believe that Lennon's anti-war stance had a LOT to do with his immigration troubles.

MLK's death was DEFINITELY a conspiracy, but it's difficult to know by whom. Admittedly, Hoover hated the man (whenever Hoover got out of drag long enough to hate anybody). I think a case could be made for MLK being 'taken out'.

MlK woul still be alive right now if he had stuck to an exclusive black rights movement but when started talking about poor peoples rights including blacks, latinos, native americans, and appalachian whites thats talking about a large and unstoppable united front that would have changed the social order of the united states. He also was anti-vietnam. Those two things pretty much guaranteed his premature death. Even he knew he was gonna die when he gave his " i have been to the mountain top" speech.

well what do you know someone actually heard what the man said.

does it really matter which agency from the federal alphabet soup? FBI, CIA, NSA, SSS... anyone one of them could be infiltrated by another. especially by the CIA. its not the agencies as much as it is those in control of them.

MLK posed a great threat to the money elite. thats why he was assassinated. MD has a point... if he had just stuck to Black rights instead of making it an all inclusive movement then it would have remained a race issue therefore providing another wall, another degree of separation... errr lets say segregation. which is exactly what was planned for. he flipped the script on it and got a bullet for his trouble.

but the thread title is mistated in my opinion. the FBI isn't the enemy here... but the actual enemy would have us believe that. they have people in those positions of power do their dirty work and take the heat.