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post Nov 4 2007, 05:42 PM
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I will presenting photos of few Mars anomalies that we have found. I will indicate all relevant data when possible (if I forget simply ask and I will try my best to provide).

The first photo is is taken my Sprite's PANCAM


Here is the original photo,


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PS more photo when time permit. I seldom visit some of these forums ... so be patient.
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post Nov 5 2007, 12:08 AM
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Here is another interesting photo. Are we the only ones on Mars? The photo was taken by MGS at an altitude of 382km. Here is the original photo.
http://ida.wr.usgs.gov/fullres/divided/m11015/m1101534a.jpg
http://ida.wr.usgs.gov/html/m11015/m1101534.html

As you can see the object is tool large to be either of the rovers?


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post Nov 5 2007, 12:10 AM
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I think I have posted this in another thread.



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post Nov 5 2007, 12:38 PM
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I hate to say it, but those photos look doctored.
The shadow cast by the first one does not look as it should.
The second one just plain do not look right at all.
And the third one the coloring is off and I question the shadow it is casting.
Look for these same photos from a NASA or equally noted site.
If they shaow the same things, I'll be happy to take a second look.


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post Nov 5 2007, 03:35 PM
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do you think that everybody on this forum is an idiot? This shit makes me mad.
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post Nov 5 2007, 05:05 PM
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The photos look like BS.
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post Nov 6 2007, 12:50 AM
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("SOUL-DRIFTER")
I hate to say it, but those photos look doctored.

("seth")
The photos look like BS.

("Mandelasdiscple")
do you think that everybody on this forum is an idiot? This shit makes me mad.


None of the photos are doctored. They are simply cropped and enhanced to bring clarity to object s in question.

I will go back add links to the original photos. These are clearly seen in photos you can view in the NASA photo archives.

We have no reason to doctor any photos. Each none of us in the group has reputations to uphold. Unlike most, our screen names are our actually names.

Rohn DeSilva
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post Nov 6 2007, 12:58 AM
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The original photo comes from Spirit :PANCAM Sol 229.
The anomaly is on 3 different photos.

Here is the photo id,
2P146694587EFF8600P2402L7M1
and here is the links,
http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/...0P2402L7M1.HTML

photo id,
2P146694689EFF8600P2402L7M1
link
http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/...0P2402L7M1.HTML

photo id,
2P146694689EFF8600P2402R1M1
link,
http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/...0P2402R1M1.HTML

I have nothing to gain from fabricating photos. Enjoy ... direct from NASA biggrin.gif

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post Nov 6 2007, 01:01 AM
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Another photo from your favorite (and trusting) NASA. Check it out and enjoy .....

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/?IDNumber=pia01907

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post Nov 6 2007, 01:05 AM
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Maybe some would like to tell me what this looks like. For an idiot like me biggrin.gif biggrin.gif, this reminds me of a dead snake.


I almost forgot, here is the original photo (again unfortunately from NASA rover mission photo archives).

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...A0P2440L7M1.JPG

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...A0P2440R1M1.JPG

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post Nov 6 2007, 01:06 AM
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I let you guys comment on these photo before posting rest of our work.
BTW, I also intend to post photo from Hoaglands research team.

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post Nov 6 2007, 03:22 AM
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Need an option edit reply/posts.



Larger image ...
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post Nov 6 2007, 06:47 AM
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Fascinating stuff mate, I restore old photos for people here in OZ and absolutely love zooming in after they are scanned, seeing all the stuff that we miss normally. I have done this many many times on old photos, and as i am sure you have found it is amazing what can bee seen when you look with your eyes open and a decent magnification. It never occurred to me to do it to Nasa stuff. You have my interest.
Keep posting, it is interesting stuff.

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I'll apologize for them LOL

EDIT//
Are you looking through the photo archives systematically of Just random selections. I wouldn't mind having a dash at it but there is no point going over images you have already looked at?
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post Nov 6 2007, 09:28 AM
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None of the photos are doctored. They are simply cropped and enhanced to bring clarity to object s in question.

I will go back add links to the original photos. These are clearly seen in photos you can view in the NASA photo archives.

We have no reason to doctor any photos. Each none of us in the group has reputations to uphold. Unlike most, our screen names are our actually names.

Rohn DeSilva


Well. I said they looked doctored. That does not mean that they were.

Thanks for those follow up photos.

The U M site posted many photos and threads on this.
Some are very interesting.
One must consider the possibility that many could be natural formations.
Though they would not be natural hear, it maybe so there, with different mixture of minerals, atmosphere and gravity.
Some may very well be artifacts. Junk from a crashed alien craft or Earth probe that was lost. Maybe remnents of a base or earlier civilization perhaps.

It really comes down to the need for a manned trip there. So such things can be more carefully examined.

What I think would be great, if NASA had a real time rover that could be guided by people calling in to instruct where to go and position the camera.
Have a robot hand that can grasp things and do visual examination of things.


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post Nov 6 2007, 12:34 PM
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The above photo is named " Humphrey" by NASA.

Below is a photo that Dr. Jim Garvin of NASA used to illustrate past life on Mars in his presentation. We were surprised that the inset resembles trilobite.




We emailed him for more details and as of today we have not heard from him. So we decided to do our own research. I will present that next (as time permits).

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post Nov 6 2007, 02:19 PM
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The above photo is named " Humphrey" by NASA.

Below is a photo that Dr. Jim Garvin of NASA used to illustrate past life on Mars in his presentation. We were surprised that the inset resembles trilobite.




We emailed him for more details and as of today we have not heard from him. So we decided to do our own research. I will present that next (as time permits).

Rohn DeSilva


That trilobite inset, doesn't look like it fits.

What other photos does Jim Garvin have?


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post Nov 6 2007, 04:05 PM
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Any real mars anomalies would be doctored out of pics in the 1st instance (this is unconditional as could proove other nations & technology's have been there 1st also not all nasa's technolgy's are public so you cant have these on veiw even for 1 frame of film).
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post Nov 6 2007, 04:16 PM
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Rohnds, I'm confused here. Is this photo below 2 separate photos? one of the rock on mars and one of a different photo comparing the rock with that of a trilobite, or is it 1 photo of the rock, and a zoomed in photo of the same rock? because I would like to see the original large resolution of this photo myself so I can zoom in to see the fossil myself. That's way to symmetrical to be a fluke of nature.Unless it's a core marking left behind by the rover.

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post Nov 6 2007, 05:28 PM
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Thank you trog was asking a intelligent (thought full) question.

According to the PDF presentation of him, the inset image is zoomed in images of the Humphrey. So we wanted to know more (especially algorithm used {since I am s/w engineer}). As I stated he has not reply to me or to anyone else.

Yes, our research did find drill marks on Humphrey. But if this was the case, I am surprise how NASA chief scientist like Jim Garvin was fooled by such an obvious explanation.

If the image on his presentation is accurate. In another word if the trilobite is from the crevice on the lower part of Humphrey (as indicated in the photo), the drill marks we found were higher up on the rock.

But what are the chances that core/drill markings resembles a trilobite so perfectly.

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post Nov 6 2007, 05:40 PM
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This isfrom Dr.Jim Garvins presentation (2005)


Here pic of trilobite,


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