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post Jan 9 2008, 04:17 AM
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Danny Penman, Reporter, Daily Mail, writes: “Animals torn to pieces by lions in front of baying crowds: the spectator sport China DOESN'T want you to see.”

Full article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1811

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post Jan 9 2008, 08:15 AM
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Good article.
China has much barbarism, still there, in many forms.
There is much repression and tyranical rule over much of their people.
The news didn't surprise me.
Don't know if China will ever totally change.


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post Jan 9 2008, 08:42 PM
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I have been living in taiwan for the past five years and have been to the mainland quite a few times.

The Chinese are nice people but I am surprised how little respect the have for anyone outside the family circle.

When it comes to animals,they are just objects not living creatures.

Sad really.
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post Jan 10 2008, 06:26 AM
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It is a rather depraved form of entertainment, especially when children are present and their being encouraged to enjoy it. I suppose you could also object to the artificiality of the situation, with the large number of lions perhaps left hungry to make them perform, and the dragging and throwing of the goat. But inasmuch as lions being fed live food, I do not see a valid complaint.

For example, if captive lions were kept in a more realistic population resembling a pride in the wild and if a goat or simlar live prey animal was introduced into the enclosure in a different manner (e.g. where it stepped through one gate, which closed behind it, and then another gate infront of it opened and it was in the enclosure) and such an event occured outside of the zoo's opening hours and no spectators were admitted, then what is the moral objection? Such a method might be expensive and impractical, but why is it inhumane, or at least any more so than merely keeping captive animals? You might say that one of the cruelties of keeping wild predators like the lion captive is that you deprive them of hunting live prey.
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post Jan 22 2008, 10:41 AM
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I agree with the above^^.


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I have been living in taiwan for the past five years and have been to the mainland quite a few times.

The Chinese are nice people but I am surprised how little respect the have for anyone outside the family circle.

When it comes to animals,they are just objects not living creatures.

Sad really.


I have been living in Hong Kong for a while and in my experience ALL animals are considered as food. The only thing with legs they don't eat is the table.

Considering the Daily Mail newspaper supports the right to hunt foxes for sport the UK (As I understand) this article reeks of double standards.


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post Jan 22 2008, 02:19 PM
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China has pretty much the worst reputation for animal welfare: it does not even exist.

Quite frankly their lack of empathy for non human things (and even humans) horrifies me no end. I am not ashamed to say thay they are empathically sub-human. They dont seem to feel for other forms of life at all.
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post Jan 22 2008, 06:28 PM
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China has pretty much the worst reputation for animal welfare: it does not even exist.

Quite frankly their lack of empathy for non human things (and even humans) horrifies me no end. I am not ashamed to say thay they are empathically sub-human. They dont seem to feel for other forms of life at all.


LOL. "Sub-human"? Because they chose to feed the lions live food? And so what if people are watching? They're witnessing NATURE! That's right. Lions aren't scavengers. Also, these people are learning an important lesson about what could happen to them if they provoke a wild animal, sort of like those kids who provoked the tiger and got mauled.

Should we outlaw eating meat too? After all, we ARE killing animals to make the meat.
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post Jan 23 2008, 11:12 AM
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You are taking that way out of context.

Start a vegetarianism thread or something, my statment is about empathy and animal cruelty, not on whether eating meat is right or wrong. And for the record, I eat meat and understand the neccesity. This is about animal cruelty and complete lack of empathy.



Is this nature? is this natural?

I will only discuss this further if you start acting mature and cut the 'lols' and actually discuss the subject matter on context, without pulling out some kind of anti-vegetarianism argument which is not even part of the subject matter. The subject is animal cruelty and the ethical treatment of animals.

For the record: I do not actually find feeding a goat to Lions wrong, I find doing it when the Lions are either: not hungry or starved and or harassed / agitated into killing it for the sake of entertainment only the problem, its completely immoral.
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for the sake of entertainment....

Defect of the human spirit...
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post Jan 23 2008, 05:44 PM
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You are taking that way out of context.

Start a vegetarianism thread or something, my statment is about empathy and animal cruelty, not on whether eating meat is right or wrong. And for the record, I eat meat and understand the neccesity. This is about animal cruelty and complete lack of empathy.



Is this nature? is this natural?

I will only discuss this further if you start acting mature and cut the 'lols' and actually discuss the subject matter on context, without pulling out some kind of anti-vegetarianism argument which is not even part of the subject matter. The subject is animal cruelty and the ethical treatment of animals.

For the record: I do not actually find feeding a goat to Lions wrong, I find doing it when the Lions are either: not hungry or starved and or harassed / agitated into killing it for the sake of entertainment only the problem, its completely immoral.


Allowing people to watch lions being fed live food and cooping them up in a cage are two different things. I wasn't aware the lions were being forced to kill it. I assumed that they were feeding the lions live food, and they allowed spectators to watch.
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