I'm speculating on weather there are gates. I've heard there are gates that allow you to move from higher dimensions to ours. Also one that allows you to move to the stars. This could be the inspiration behind movies like Stargate. But there are other movies. Movies and tales where interdimensional gates are opened and spirits or demons come through have neen in our stories and mythology.

Knowing that alot of the spirits and gods from past societies were in reality aliens is it silly to thinkt here's a gate that allows aliens to move from higher dimensional realites or stars to ours?

But I don't think that spirits and gods were in reality aliens. I just don't know where you come to that conclusion. I know this has been theorized, and some of the theories are interesting. If aliens do exist, it's possible that some stories DO relate to aliens, but I think we have to be careful of blanket statements.

Now, there is nothing at all to suggest the existence of gates.

However, I don't believe it to be completely outside the realm of possibility.

Gates? How do you mean gates? As in a worm hole through time/space?
Are we talking natural or artificially generated?
You made mention on this before in a previous thread.
Yes, I think it would be a logical conclusion that there are aliens somewhere that can generate worm holes or portals through time/space to travel extreme distances, parallel universes or ?.
Such, may be used by our visitors, but we have no way of knowing that.
As far as our past, we do not have the technology now(that we know of) we certainly didn't have it then and again there is no way of knowing what our visitors can do in these reguards, now or in our past.
As far as the Peruvian Stargate story. It may be just, that a wild untrue story fabricated by an ancient story teller to amuse and entertain, like the gods, dragons, unicorns, mermaids, etc.
It may have truth to it, but again we have no way to say for positive.

Interesting choice of word there. Have you started a thread yet that made reference to it?

andrew while everything else he said may be scifi multiple dimensions is now a recognized part of quantum physics.

I think Andrew was refering to Fluid implying that there was proof ancient gods were aliens.

Look at all the myths and legends of ancient astronauts.

Yes but they are exactly what the title says Myth & Legend, and still not proof......

But most myths and legends are based on facts.

I mean look at some of the objects that are 2000 years old and impossible to recreate today.

u1....could you give me an example of what you mean for both.....:shrug:

such as what myths are based on fact.....and objects that are 2,000 years old that we can't recreate to......I'm curious.

Legends of vampires are based on factual medical conditions.

Oh there are things like alloys that we cannot duplicate.

12 sided stone that would have taken a computer to figure out the construction.

http://www.davideandrea.com/personal/ideas...ones/index.html

Ancient computers. Antikythera Mechanism

http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/triton2.htm
The Antikythera Mechanism was a 2,000-year-old ANALOG COMPUTER

Lots of things if you do some research.

u1...thanks....I wasn't sure what you meant....I'll look into it when I have some time.

Proof, weel suppusedly there was another Roswell alien. He told the story of how aliens were involved in human creation and that they are our gofs and demons. Many ancient stories do coincide with aliens. Lights, voming, from the sky, giving technology. IN South America they have a god called The Being With Eyes. Of course there's the rumour of Quatzocotal the featheredserpent god really being a reptoid with anger problems. There was recently documentation Of a group of saucers that whenl inked together looked like a flying serpent over Mexico. There have been cave paintings and medival ones. There's also similarity between elves and aliens. SUpposedly demonic possesion is similar. ALiens supposedly can posses your body and demon possesed people say they are taken to underground facilities where they are told to let them carry out experiments on them or die. Sound erily similar? They even hace incidents that are exactly liek near-death experiences and Brhaman Reazation where contactees are taking out of their body to a giant door. Behind the door is awhite light that supposedly is The One.

Like I said all ancient people have stories of gods or beings coming from the sky an giving them technology. The native indians have stories of evil beings livingin caves beneath the Earth and being involved in creation. They also say the spot where Travis Walton was abducted and Los Alamos is is inhabited by evil spirits. Even the Christian Bible talks about them As I've mentioned in eastern folklore dragons and serpenys ate good. On western they are bad or demons liek teh snake in The Garden Of Eden. Due to corruption the Hevrew religion has been corrupted many times. Before there was God there was Yaweh and before Yaweh The Elohim. This was a group of ancient hebrew gods still mentioned in The Jewish Bible. There were 12 of them headed by El. ELohim literally means ones that came from the sky. Of course when the Egyptians or whoever corrupted thier religion someone and Moses brought The Ten Commandments while the writers said you should have no other gods before me they forgo to ommit the part of Genisis that says "Let US create man.". Whoever they were there was more than one of them and they came from The Sky.

ALso they've made many clames of making superchildren of history. They usually become bif religious figures like Bhudda,Muhammed,Jesus,and even Moses. I've heard them talk of an evermind. They said if you think of it as God they are his angels. So they do have a belief in some kind of superior being. Also they talk about that may be a time near when the world is destroyed. This is in Revelation. Infact they are supposedly who wrote the Bible Codes that we are now discovering. Take for instance they think Soddom And Gommorah were destroyed by aliens usinc atomic weapons. They found 2 cities in The Middle East that were burned. One interesting thing, the ground was radioactive. Ezikiel was said to have been taking up into a spinning craft.

I'm pretty sure they were our gods.Remeber in most ancient cultures not only could a person but and animal could be a god. We've seen the movies where the island people think the tourists are gods ,worship them, and them sacrifice them in the volcano. Hernando Cortez is said to be the paleskiined god The Aztecs prophecies would be coming to destroy their civilization. SO 3 foot tall grey beings with psychic and supernatural powers, 7 foot tall mantises, 8 foot tall reptiles all with flying machines,lasers,medical technology,invisibility,and levitating abiblity would have been seen as nothing short of the spirits.

Fluid, I only partly agree with you.

Please try to improve your spelling. It can be very difficult to read and understand.

You brought up some good points. I don't know about the 12 sided stone ... but the Antikythera Mechanism was interesting! They probably used it for astronomy and navigation. My guess is it was a one-of-a-kind device made by some Da Vinci-like inventor of MASSIVE intelligence. Very cool.

Also, I agree with you about the Vampire thing. I'm pretty well up on folklore, and I totally agree with that. Werewolves as well.

Werewolves and wolf-men are traced back to bipolar disorder, schizophrenia and severe hypertrichosis.

Vampires legends go back to psychotics (tendency to bite, fascination with taboos like blood ... this can be seen in people like the infamous Vlad Tepes the Impaler who liked to watch executions during breakfast and Countess Elizabeth Bathory), Erythropoietic Protoporphyria, narcolepsy (or other causes that make a person 'seem' dead though they are alive, and (my personal favorite) a misunderstanding about how bodies decay.

My favorite story (can't remember a lot of details because I read it more than 15 years ago), was a true story of a British medical examiner who was a professional medical pathologist, but was also interested in folklore. He went to Romania after hearing about a recent rash of vampire attacks in a small town. This was during, if I remember, the early 18th century.

At that time, if there was a suspected vampire (usually people reporting unexplained bites, night attacks on girls etc.), the typical thing to do would be to identify the offender (generally a wicked person who had died no long before the attacks), and put them on trial. If the person were found to be a vampire, if they were found guilty, the penalty was of course: death ... for the dead body. Typically they would cut off the head and bury it under running water, burn the body (incomplete burning), cut off the legs, stake the body to the casket (the 'stake through the heart' wasn't actually to kill a vampire, but rather to 'nail' it to the living earth so it couldn't rise again), make a cross of the leg bones and rebury it.

So when the Englishman came to the Romanian town, they had just started the trial and the deceased/accused was on a table in the courtroom. Known to the medical examiner, but apparently unknown to the people, were several simple things: rigor mortis and gas. As ATP in the muscles shuts down, the energy starved muscles lock up for awhile before finally relaxing in death. This helps modern ME time a death by whether or not rigor mortis has come, and or gone yet. Also, decay of internal organs quickly produces gases that will escape in any way they can. So imagine, if you will, the courtroom full of people with a dead body in the middle, when, all of a sudden, right in the middle of the courtroom, the corpse sits up and starts moaning ... the rigor mortis and gases build up, the corpse SITS UP, the jaw falls open, the gases escape, vibrating the vocal cords in a MOAN! The courtroom was cleared: accused found guilty.

Now, that said: while many Myths and Legends ARE based on real things (dinosaur bones becoming the bones of giants), some things are NOT based on real things: they're only stories.

Unless you'd like to give examples for:
Pegasus
Centaur
Minotaur
Manticore
Djinn
Fachan
Flying on broomsticks
unicorns

or from accounts of early explorers:
Those people who had no heads and whose faces were in their chests?
Those people who had big feet who would lie on their backs and use their feet as a sunshade?

or from Native American mythology:
The buffalo bride story?

or from Norse mythology:
the contests between Thor, Thjalfi, Loki and Utgard Loki that resulted in someone trying to eat fire, someone trying to lift the world snake, someone trying to drink the sea, and someone trying to wrestle death.

Sometimes a story is just a story

You mean Bill Gates is interdimensional now???? :eek:


Oh no!! :vicar:

Well, obviously the UFOs are operating on "Win" ... look how many of them crash!


:alien: Oh no, Biltar! The blue screen of death!
:alien: God help us all!

No!!!!

Ultima said it wouldnt be so!!! :surrender

k-rex....well said.

the Buffalo Bride story was especially interesting......it is quite a bit like the White Buffalo Calf Maiden from the Lakota mythology.....both appear to be based on interpretation of their new surroundings.....not so much based on fact......I know the Cheyenne have a like myth...(I'll look into this name)....as do the Aztecs (Quetzalcoatl)......its similiar to the world wide flood myths....which is just an interpretation of environmental occurances from early civilizations....but none are likely based on an actual event.