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post Jan 14 2008, 09:34 AM
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anyone think there anything in all that? the egyptians buildings are very clever indeed :headscrat
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post Jan 14 2008, 10:14 AM
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Visiting various websites I have come across articles that claim that "Stargates" are not just figments of a Sci-Fi imagination but are in fact a reality. One of the articles went on to claim that the U.S.A. are in possesion of two "Stargates" which are presently housed within a Top Secret Military establishment. One of the "Stargates" was recovered, supposedly, from within the ice of Antarctica whilst the other "Stargate was recovered from Egypt.
Considering how secretive, underhanded and downright untruthful the U.S. military is I don't think it is within the bounds to discount the possibility that there is some credence to this theory/thinking.
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post Jan 14 2008, 11:53 AM
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i never knew that.well thats got my mind boggled even more now.has anyone else got any info?would gladly like to hear about it.:confused: smile.gif
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post Jan 14 2008, 12:23 PM
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Visiting various websites I have come across articles that claim that "Stargates" are not just figments of a Sci-Fi imagination but are in fact a reality. One of the articles went on to claim that the U.S.A. are in possesion of two "Stargates" which are presently housed within a Top Secret Military establishment. One of the "Stargates" was recovered, supposedly, from within the ice of Antarctica whilst the other "Stargate was recovered from Egypt.
Considering how secretive, underhanded and downright untruthful the U.S. military is I don't think it is within the bounds to discount the possibility that there is some credence to this theory/thinking.


Well you have pretty much described ''Stargate SG1''.....wink.gif

Have you got any links to these articles JV....smile.gif


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post Jan 14 2008, 01:15 PM
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Sigh.....
And how do these proposed stargates work?

Maybe the government has a team to guard the gate and protect us.
Bugger! I hope the Goa'uld don't come. :cry:
Okay! We need some resistance!!!
Anubis is comming!!!


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There is grounds to dismiss this theory... Although I hate saying this; there is no way under our current understanding of physics to travel faster than the speed of light. Now, the "StarGate" theory suggests almost instant travel to planets light years away... It is impossible... and if any species was technologically advanced enought to create such technology, they wouldn't have become extinct, lived on a single planet, and theres no way in hell they'd be stupid enough to leave such a potentially powerful device in the hands of monkeys.
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post Jan 14 2008, 03:51 PM
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Sigh.....
And how do these proposed stargates work?

Maybe the government has a team to guard the gate and protect us.
Bugger! I hope the Goa'uld don't come. :cry:
Okay! We need some resistance!!!
Anubis is comming!!!


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There is grounds to dismiss this theory... Although I hate saying this; there is no way under our current understanding of physics to travel faster than the speed of light. Now, the "StarGate" theory suggests almost instant travel to planets light years away... It is impossible... and if any species was technologically advanced enought to create such technology, they wouldn't have become extinct, lived on a single planet, and theres no way in hell they'd be stupid enough to leave such a potentially powerful device in the hands of monkeys.


I agree.

Your comment"...It is impossible...". I do not.
Science, simply does not have enough knowledge for us to safely say that is true.
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post Jan 14 2008, 04:01 PM
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I agree.

Your comment"...It is impossible...". I do not.
Science, simply does not have enough knowledge for us to safely say that is true.


Read the rest of it though; as one who sentance.
I do not personally beleive it, I love to beleive that eventually it will be able to surpassed and our books rewritten.
But it will take great intelligence as a species, so I believe it to impossible for them to be as stupid to become extinct, or leave it there.

Sorry for the poor explaination.
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Sorry Xeno. Guess I did not understand you correctly.


Lilith.
Here is a previous thread you may find interesting:
Peruvian Stargate

http://www.alien-ufos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16307
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post Jan 15 2008, 05:46 AM
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:alien: thanx mr soul drifter i will read that thread. smile.gif
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post Jan 15 2008, 07:23 AM
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Well you have pretty much described ''Stargate SG1''.....wink.gif

Have you got any links to these articles JV....smile.gif


I'm glad you mentioned Stargate SG1 as there are theories amongst some members of the UFO community, and which I believe are quite feasible, that all these films etc are part of the whole USA disinformation programme. Let me explain further.
If you had a huge secret that you did not want to be made public knowledge how would you ensure that it remained secret or at the least if it became part of the public domain nobody would believe it?
The answer is quite simple. You make a film and/or television series about it. If information is leaked to the public, courtesy of "whistle-blowers", the public would just say, that isn't true I've seen it in a film or television series so it's just made up. By using this principle the Governments concerned can actually release all the information and technology that they possess and nobody will believe that they are real.
The film, "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" is a good example of this. This film actually depicts the "official first contact" between the earth and an Alien Race. Of course the film has been "hollywoodised" to add content and beef up the story etc. The "first contact" in the film is set at Devils Peak, Wyoming but this is only to detract the viewer from the true location of the first meeting. The "first contact" actually took place on the evening of 20th/21st february 1954 at Muroc Airfield which is now known as Edwards Air Force Base. Amongst the American representatives were; President Eisenhower, Gerald Light, Franklin Winthrop Allen, Charles L. Suggs, Edwin Nourse and Cardinal James Francis MacIntyre.
The film, "Hanger 18" is another example of how the USA employ their disinformation tactics and more famously are the film, "Stargate" and the T.V. series, "Stargate SG1".
I have visited many UFO orientated websites in my reaearch and have not always took note of which information I obtained from which websites, which is a big mistake on my part and for which I apologise.
Amongst the websites I have visited are; ALIEN-UFOS.com ,abovetopsecret.com ,area51forums.com , burlington news.net ,UFO's and AliensThe Truth/z9invisionfree.com/Paranormal ,ufogovernments.proboards38.com ,rense.com , frappr.com , theblackvault.com ,galacticserver.com ,ufo.whipnet.org , stealthskater.com and many more , the list is considerable.
I hope that those I have provided are of use to you or anyone else who wishes to use them.
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post Jan 15 2008, 08:24 AM
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We have no evidence of them.
No whistle blowers or stories from someone who's character is reliable and considered dependable.
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We have no evidence of them.
No whistle blowers or stories from someone who's character is reliable and considered dependable.


Have you visited, www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/QuotesPage.html and read the quotes contained therein?
These are quotes by, "prominent individuals of high rank and accomplishments with significant bearing on exopolitics and the ET hypothesis".
I think you'll find that interesting reading alone. after that go to, www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicphotos.html. There you will find an article entitled, "Apollo moon Conversations and Pictures show NASA cover-up". This again is very interesting reading.
I don't know how much credence you put on articles by Phil Schneider but he has some very interesting things to say. Go to ufocasebook.conforums and look under the heading, Disclosure and government Cover-ups. Posted by southweststranger on Feb 16th. 2006 @ 9:04p.m.
This is Phil Schneider's final speech from his lecture of 1995. It is broken down into 14 sections each dealing with a separate subject. They are;
1. Introduction.
2. Deep Underground Military Bases and the Black Budget.
3. Developement of Military Technology7. Implied German Interest in
Hyperspacial technology.
4. The Firefight at Dulce Base.
5. Schneider's worries About Government factions. Railroad Cars and
Shackle Contracts.
6. America's Black Programme Contractors.
7. Star Wars and Apparent alien Threat.
8.Stealth aircraft technology Use by U.S. Agencies and the United States.
9.The Guardians of Stealth and Delta Force Origins of the Bosnian Conflict.
10. Thoughts on the Bombings of the United States.
11. The Truth behind the Republican Contract with America.
12. Some Statistics on the Black Helicopter Presence.
13. Government Earthquake Device. AIDS as a Bioweapon Based on Alien
Excretions.
14. Saddam Hussein killed 3.5 Million Kurdish people with a similar biological
weapon.

Shortly after this lecture Phil Schneider was found dead in his apartment with a piano wire wrapped round his neck. The supposed cause of death was suicide. Make your own minds up.
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Have you visited, www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/QuotesPage.html and read the quotes contained therein?
These are quotes by, "prominent individuals of high rank and accomplishments with significant bearing on exopolitics and the ET hypothesis".
I think you'll find that interesting reading alone. after that go to, www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicphotos.html. There you will find an article entitled, "Apollo moon Conversations and Pictures show NASA cover-up". This again is very interesting reading.
I don't know how much credence you put on articles by Phil Schneider but he has some very interesting things to say. Go to ufocasebook.conforums and look under the heading, Disclosure and government Cover-ups. Posted by southweststranger on Feb 16th. 2006 @ 9:04p.m.
This is Phil Schneider's final speech from his lecture of 1995. It is broken down into 14 sections each dealing with a separate subject. They are;
1. Introduction.
2. Deep Underground Military Bases and the Black Budget.
3. Developement of Military Technology7. Implied German Interest in
Hyperspacial technology.
4. The Firefight at Dulce Base.
5. Schneider's worries About Government factions. Railroad Cars and
Shackle Contracts.
6. America's Black Programme Contractors.
7. Star Wars and Apparent alien Threat.
8.Stealth aircraft technology Use by U.S. Agencies and the United States.
9.The Guardians of Stealth and Delta Force Origins of the Bosnian Conflict.
10. Thoughts on the Bombings of the United States.
11. The Truth behind the Republican Contract with America.
12. Some Statistics on the Black Helicopter Presence.
13. Government Earthquake Device. AIDS as a Bioweapon Based on Alien
Excretions.
14. Saddam Hussein killed 3.5 Million Kurdish people with a similar biological
weapon.

Shortly after this lecture Phil Schneider was found dead in his apartment with a piano wire wrapped round his neck. The supposed cause of death was suicide. Make your own minds up.


We are referring to Stargates Or artificially generated worm holes by advanced technology(s).
None of what you offered spoke of any of that.
I am aware of Phil Schneider. I am not aware he spoke of any either.
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We are referring to Stargates Or artificially generated worm holes by advanced technology(s).
None of what you offered spoke of any of that.
I am aware of Phil Schneider. I am not aware he spoke of any either.


Hi, soul-drifter. I'm sorry, I did not mean to imply that Phil Schneider spoke about "stargates". I was trying to make the point that the U.S. knows a far lot more than it admits to and considering the quote by Ben Rich it wouldn't surprise me in the least if all the information that is being released by "whistle-blowers" didn't turn out to be pretty damn well near to the truth.
I don't believe for one minute that Phil Schneider commited suicide. I truly believe that he was murdered by one of the U.S. Security Agencies to shut him up because he was making known information that the authorities wanted to remain secret.
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Agreed.
Yes, I agree. Phil Schneider was murdered.
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The film, "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" is a good example of this. This film actually depicts the "official first contact" between the earth and an Alien Race.


And you have no evidence or proof of this outladish claim i take it, its ridiculous claims like this that make the UFO community a laughing stock JV....


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And you have no evidence or proof of this outladish claim i take it, its ridiculous claims like this that make the UFO community a laughing stock JV....


If you can be bothered to refer to my posting of; 01-15-2008 @ 01:28 p.m. you will see that I was NOT claiming that everything I posted was true. It is mere a hypothesis/theory that I have come up with that could indeed be true to a certain extent at least. There are many things that we don't know about due to the fact that Earth's governments suppress the truth for "our own protection". I would never attempt to deliberately make the UFO community a laughing stock. The whole UFO/Alien question is far too serious a subject for any open-minded person to do that.
I would draw your attention to a website that I have previously visited.
www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/QuotesPage
Here you will find; "A comprehensive compilation of quotes by prominent individuals of high rank and accomplishments with significant bearing on exopolitics and the ET hypothesis"
If you take the time to read ALL the quotes you will see that they are not by mere individuals, "the man in the street" just like you and I. The mere fact that they are indeed by "individuals of high rank and accomplishments " should have some bearing on their credence.
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I would never attempt to deliberately make the UFO community a laughing stock.


And i never said you did if you could be bothered to read my post, but you did state and i quote..

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The film, "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" is a good example of this. This film actually depicts the "official first contact" between the earth and an Alien Race. Of course the film has been "hollywoodised" to add content and beef up the story etc. The "first contact" in the film is set at Devils Peak, Wyoming but this is only to detract the viewer from the true location of the first meeting. The "first contact" actually took place on the evening of 20th/21st february 1954 at Muroc Airfield which is now known as Edwards Air Force Base. Amongst the American representatives were; President Eisenhower, Gerald Light, Franklin Winthrop Allen, Charles L. Suggs, Edwin Nourse and Cardinal James Francis MacIntyre.
The film, "Hanger 18" is another example of how the USA employ their disinformation tactics and more famously are the film, "Stargate" and the T.V. series, "Stargate SG1".


Now with no evidence or proof this is the sort of statement that makes the whole subject of Ufology a laughing stock like it or not....


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post Jan 19 2008, 01:36 PM
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As usual Fen Star you are having selective vision and reading complications.
If you are going to quote me please have the good manners to include my full quote and not just the latter part which you assume is going to help your arguament. For your benefit I will now put in place the first part of the quote that goes with the second part and with which you hoped to score ponts.
" If you had a secret that you did not want to be made public how would you ensure that it remained secret or at least if it became part of the public domain nobody would believe it"?
"The answer is quite simple". "You make a Film or television series about it". "If the information is leaked to the public courtesy of "whistle-blowers" the public would say, "that isn't true, Ive seen it in a Film or Television series so it's just made up". "By using this principle the governments concerned can actually release all the information and technology that they possess and nobody will believe that they are real"
My quote then goes on to give examples of where, how and why this could be done etc.
I suggest that in future when you read what anybody posts you actually read the full post and take in what the post is saying before you attempt to ridicule in your inept replies. You have fallen into what you accuse me of, not speaking the truth or talking pure bollocks. By not reproducing my full quote you are not telling the whole truth and as such YOU are lying. LOL.
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Visiting various websites I have come across articles that claim that "Stargates" are not just figments of a Sci-Fi imagination but are in fact a reality. One of the articles went on to claim that the U.S.A. are in possesion of two "Stargates" which are presently housed within a Top Secret Military establishment. One of the "Stargates" was recovered, supposedly, from within the ice of Antarctica whilst the other "Stargate was recovered from Egypt.
Considering how secretive, underhanded and downright untruthful the U.S. military is I don't think it is within the bounds to discount the possibility that there is some credence to this theory/thinking.


I can tell you they are not real. And I am sure all those websites got their facts from the movie. But teleportation is real. In fact at it's roots, teleportation is more natural to this universe then movement is.
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