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Jan 14 2008, 02:02 PM
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From the movie Independence Day, seems locical to me. I think it could happen, no not exactly like the movie, but pretty darn close! This is what I will think may happen in the near future four years from now. Tell what you think.
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Jan 14 2008, 02:44 PM
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To me, its rather illogical.
I mean, the film is brilliant; but, all the ships being connected to a main mothership; and there being such easy entry to the main ship, and that we'd manage to get one of their ships working and able to be used. It just wouldn't happen. Yup, we'd deffinatly be screwed. |
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Jan 14 2008, 03:28 PM
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You fail at making polls. I was able to choose all of the options.
Anyway, I'm certain I read something somewhere that said the Earth's physics wouldn't allow such a huge object to enter the atmosphere without destroying everything below it. |
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Jan 14 2008, 04:28 PM
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Which object?
The 500 mile diameter ship, was in orbit. The smaller ones were 20 miles diameter. Correct me if I am wrong. But as I recall there has been radar and satellite images of unknown objects that were many miles in diameter. -------------------- QUEST FOR THE REAL TRUTH |
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Jan 14 2008, 04:30 PM
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Dak, you say it seems logical to you. Why?
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Jan 14 2008, 10:10 PM
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(SOUL-DRIFTER;344609) Which object?
The 500 mile diameter ship, was in orbit. The smaller ones were 20 miles diameter. Correct me if I am wrong. But as I recall there has been radar and satellite images of unknown objects that were many miles in diameter. But none of them were actually proved to have been there, very well could have been a glitch in the system. If, objects that size were seen on radar, I'm sure that DOD would have been all over it. |
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Jan 15 2008, 03:31 AM
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Yes its concievable that a resource hungary alien species could stop by, wipe us out and mine us, then move on.
No i dont think they will be as stupid, and that movie was the first time I've seen a Mac be compatible with anything other than a Mac. And always remember they have to get that 'ship self destructs if a plane crashes into the big gun' design fault out. And then every other ship (presumably) on the planet left their 'gig gun's' open to be crashed into And planes take off faster if your leaning forward |
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Jan 15 2008, 09:01 AM
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(MJ-12;344626) But none of them were actually proved to have been there,...
Do you know this to be fact? I sure don't. We both know that a glitch can occur, but a good radar operator should know the difference. I believe most the really big ones were mostly seen & reported from via satellite or telescope. Mile wide ones have been tracked on radar while visually seen. -------------------- QUEST FOR THE REAL TRUTH |
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Jan 15 2008, 10:58 AM
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I guess it is possible but it probably would've happened by now. For some reason I believe there is a higher power looking after our welfare here on planet E.
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Jan 15 2008, 12:55 PM
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(SOUL-DRIFTER;344670) Do you know this to be fact?
I sure don't. We both know that a glitch can occur, but a good radar operator should know the difference. I believe most the really big ones were mostly seen & reported from via satellite or telescope. Mile wide ones have been tracked on radar while visually seen. Where are the pictures then? Where are the radar scans? If this is public knowledge then you would think there would be some photographic evidence. Other than a news paper article. |
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Jan 15 2008, 04:24 PM
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If aliens were smart enough to master interstellar travel, they would be smart enough to know better than to launch an outright attack, which would result in more resistance than say deceiving people into believing they're here to help.
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Jan 15 2008, 05:03 PM
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(MJ-12;344699) Where are the pictures then? Where are the radar scans? If this is public knowledge then you would think there would be some photographic evidence. Other than a news paper article.
The most recent one is described by one of the military people at the national press conference. You can see that video clip on this thread: http://www.alien-ufos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19851 It is 1hr & 30 minutes long and the testamony is toward the end. As far as radar scans and photographs goes, it is very doubtful something like that would be allowed out of close circles. Testimony of reliable witnesses is the majority of what we have right now. Until these people can be proven to be unreliable, I see no reason to doubt them. -------------------- QUEST FOR THE REAL TRUTH |
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Jan 15 2008, 05:55 PM
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(Xeno;344581) To me, its rather illogical.
I mean, the film is brilliant; but, all the ships being connected to a main mothership; and there being such easy entry to the main ship, and that we'd manage to get one of their ships working and able to be used. It just wouldn't happen. Yup, we'd deffinatly be screwed. TO MJ-12/PERFECTLY DARK/ANGERY JERK First, thanks for the vote. I wanted to get the ( big picture)... not in details...just thoughts on if "invasion" could happen. Why couldn't there be a main mother-ship...we have it in our Military, Gov. so on. Every Military gov., has a "base". My bad w/ more than 1 option, tired lately. Next time answering a pole, do your research first. Read books, watch UFO FILES on the History Ch. To SOUL-DRIFTER I say logic.. for one reason the truth about UFO'S, Aliens, etc. is finally coming forward. And "proof" in our very own History. Japanese, Egyptians, caves, scrolls, Aztecs, and more. Since we have been here...we always watched the skies. Space Law The flights of unmanned and manned space vehicles that began in 1957 highlighted the necessity for some legal recognition of spacecraft and activities in space. The UN appointed a Committee for Peaceful Uses of Outer Space in 1959. Its 1967 Outer Space Treaty codified accepted principles of international law relating to outer space and established the proposition that outer space is not subject to national appropriation and is to be used only for peaceful purposes-a proposition disturbed in the early 1980s by U.S. President Ronald W. Reagan's proposal of a space-based defense system (see Strategic Defense Initiative). TV show "Seeing in Believing" with Peter Jennings In the U.S.A. alone, over forty million, knows someone that has seen one. And eighty million believe were being visited by some other intelligence from other planets. Thousands from eye witnesses, seen Ufos, and are silent, lights, hovering, changing colors, changing shape, sizes between 2 football field lengths, no wings, mesmerized, few stories tall. -------------------- live long and prosper
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Jan 15 2008, 11:34 PM
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(SOUL-DRIFTER;344729) The most recent one is described by one of the military people at the national press conference. You can see that video clip on this thread: http://www.alien-ufos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19851 It is 1hr & 30 minutes long and the testamony is toward the end. As far as radar scans and photographs goes, it is very doubtful something like that would be allowed out of close circles. Testimony of reliable witnesses is the majority of what we have right now. Until these people can be proven to be unreliable, I see no reason to doubt them. See that is my point, if it isn't allowed out of close circles then how do we know there have been these blips on the radar? That would be classified as well. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying there wasn't something there or that it WAS a glitch in the system. But where is the proof. Now it may be classified but wouldn't the DOD be all over something if it was on the radar? :headscrat I mean if something showed up on radar that was miles big somone HAD to have seen it. |
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Jan 16 2008, 12:10 AM
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Ignore please
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Jan 16 2008, 12:55 AM
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Oh, sure! In fact, it happens every year on July 4th!
On a more serious note ... One flaw that I found in both this movie and in Star Wars Episode I is the idea that you can knock out an entire battleforce by removing ONE ship. This 'keystone' approach to tactics is ridiculously flawed, and nobody with an ounce of sense would create a situation in which the loss of ONE unit could disable an entire force. Let's take Independence Day: Let's say all craft are controlled by the mother ship, who sees that ships get where they need to be, do what they need to do, and don't get in each other's way. The mother ship is blown up: no problem. Switch the fighters back to independent control. In SW: The mother ship that controls the robots gets destroyed. That's easy: have every robot programmed with a simple command to follow in the event that it loses contact with the mother ship: "If it ain't ours ... destroy it." On a more general note: do I think aliens will invade and subjugate us all? If they're that advanced that they can GET here, I imagine they'll forgo the little ships with lasers, sit back in a command chamber and flip a switch to annihilate us all. Baron Munchausen: What's this?
Vulcan: Oh, this is our prototype. RX Intercontinental, radar-sneaky, multi-warheaded nuclear missile. Baron Munchausen: Ah! What does it do? Vulcan: Do? Kills the enemy. Baron Munchausen: All the enemy? Vulcan: Aye, all of them. All their wives, and all their children, and all their sheep, and all their cattle, and all their cats and dogs. All of them: all of them gone for good. Sally: That's horrible. Vulcan: Ahh. Well, you see, the advantage is you don't have to see one single one of them die. You just sit comfortably thousands of miles away from the battlefield and simply press the button. Berthold: Well, where's the fun in that? |
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Jan 16 2008, 03:26 AM
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i think there a good chance of it,i dont rule nothing out no more:headscrat
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Jan 19 2008, 02:59 PM
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(MJ-12;344751) See that is my point, if it isn't allowed out of close circles then how do we know there have been these blips on the radar? That would be classified as well.
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying there wasn't something there or that it WAS a glitch in the system. But where is the proof. Now it may be classified but wouldn't the DOD be all over something if it was on the radar? :headscrat I mean if something showed up on radar that was miles big somone HAD to have seen it. Someone did see it. It was the pilots who gave the reports. There is also a report that was on television that occured in Texas. As I said before, reliable witness testamony is suffice for me. At least until said reputation can be proven to be unreliable. Point I was making in my initial post was that there have been UFOs of substantial size seen(1 mile wide or larger) and reported by both civilian and military personnel. Those military personnel are usually pilots who give testamony to what they saw and the radar return info. These type of reports are rare, but they do occur. -------------------- QUEST FOR THE REAL TRUTH |
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Jan 20 2008, 12:04 AM
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(SOUL-DRIFTER;345143) Point I was making in my initial post was that there have been UFOs of substantial size seen(1 mile wide or larger) and reported by both civilian and military personnel.
There was a British airline pilot that recently had a story on the news about seeing a UFO that was about a mile wide. |
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Jan 20 2008, 01:51 AM
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I said no. however, no to the way it was done, not that it could not happen. But I think we would see the locals jumping on them with heavy artillery before they are allowed to get to us. We are a key strategic point. And this system and every planet in it has a Monitoring outpost on it to ensure it stays quite and does not become a staging area for an assault.
We would need 6 mouths before they could drag their forces in here and defend this place. We would have to stick it out if they got that close. But we are far out here and those kinds of raids are out of style... I hope. |
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