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post Jan 28 2008, 02:56 AM
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We have lots of information on aliens. Abductee stroies, UFO videos, people letting out inside the government. But how do we find out really secret things.

DO aliens ever tell people what they're doing or what's going on? Like do they explain what devices do, what they are doing to abductees, or how their technology works? Is it just abductees staring in a daze whom are left in the dark ,have their memories erased and then no hardly anything of the experience? Or do they explain things as they are going on or afterwards.

There are some things we've found out like their craft move by magnets, and antigravity. The beam the use to pull you up knocks you unconscious. Or that they have an exchange btweent he goverment for the ability to abduct people. How did we find out these things? Like did they ever tell where they come from and why they are here?
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post Jan 28 2008, 03:16 AM
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Contactees sometimes report that aliens have given them privileged information.


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post Jan 28 2008, 04:54 AM
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i've read about abductees being given visions of the future


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post Jan 28 2008, 08:54 AM
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We have lots of information on aliens. Abductee stroies, UFO videos, people letting out inside the government. But how do we find out really secret things.

DO aliens ever tell people what they're doing or what's going on? Like do they explain what devices do, what they are doing to abductees, or how their technology works? Is it just abductees staring in a daze whom are left in the dark ,have their memories erased and then no hardly anything of the experience? Or do they explain things as they are going on or afterwards.

There are some things we've found out like their craft move by magnets, and antigravity. The beam the use to pull you up knocks you unconscious. Or that they have an exchange btweent he goverment for the ability to abduct people. How did we find out these things? Like did they ever tell where they come from and why they are here?


fliud....frozenthought has been talking to them lately.....maybe he can tell you....:shrug:
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post Jan 28 2008, 08:59 AM
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Fluid.
How many volumes of books about UFOs have you read?
I ask this Fluid, because many of your questions can be answered from them.
The best books to read are actually the ones that deal with abductions and close encounters that took place from the late 50 through the early seventies. Be careful what you choose for an author, as there were some real nut cases, especially from the 50s.
There were many cases were the encounter with the UFO occupants led to information being told them about our future and criticism about our way of living.
I recall some occupants expressed concern with our use of nuclear weapons and power use. They said "it would upset the balance of the universe".rolleyes.gif
There were some that claimed they were making a deal with the world governments for a future colony here.
I recall the use of paralysing devices that was used on those who came too close to a landing and or its occupants.
Many of these things you do not hear about anymore.
I think that a great majority of the visitors that came in this time period did so simply to classify and log us. After this, they left and have never returned.
This would also explain why we no longer see certain shapes of UFOs anymore.
20 years from the detonation of the first atomic bomb, saw the biggest UFO flap in history. We may never see another one like it again.


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post Jan 28 2008, 04:05 PM
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DO aliens ever tell people what they're doing or what's going on? Like do they explain what devices do, what they are doing to abductees, or how their technology works?


I doubt they do. Despite some people's assurances that they are super intelligent and all knowing, they are just union workers. They clock in and clock out. They can tell you how the pump works or the political situation but not how it got that way. Some may be brighter then others and can tell you allot, even straighten out allot of misconceptions in your thinking that you have been taught here on Earth. But they are not all knowing nor see us as someone that needs to be schooled. They want us to remain quite here on Earth and do little or nothing.

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Or do they explain things as they are going on or afterwards.


Sadly no. I have never heard of them taking much time to explain anything worth while. Perhaps because some didn't know themselves, others look down on us as not important enough to spare the time, and last, that even if they did, you would not get it without a lengthy discussion anyway. They are not all heartless but don't all know what to do and often enough, some just try not to step on us so we can live our lives in peace. Then again, there are a few evil little @#$%ers too. The average level of morality is not inspiring.

They don't know all that much either, they know more then us but not allot infact. Despite some people's assurances that they are super intelligent and all knowing, they are just union workers. They clock in and clock out. They can tell you how the pump works or the political situation but not how it got that way. Some may be brighter then others and can tell you allot, even straighten out allot of misconceptions in your thinking that you have been taught here on Earth. But they are not all knowing nor see us as someone that needs to be schooled. They want us to remain quite here on Earth and do little or nothing.

In fact what is going on here is they are trying to solve a problem. A problem you are not even aware existed. Getting into it is just not going to work, so I will only tell you that they are out to solve a personal problem by having us here and in the dark. Needless to say they know allot more about us then we know about them. Much of their work was to make it that way not to mention all the help they got.

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....Or that they have an exchange btweent he goverment for the ability to abduct people.


No way they ever asked our government. There is no way they EVER thought they needed to ask, it would be rough enough for them to keep track of what government controls what and if they are still in power. If one lasted for a few thousand years they might think you were around long enough to be a government that is recognizable. Nothing we have can stop them. Nothing the government has can stop them either. The government is privileged to knowing that the spaceship is real, the bodies are real. They can learn their language and ask hostages questions. No one is going to come a rescue them anyway so you can be sure they talked. But what they have to say is not inspiring or incredibly revealing. So our government is confused too, just not about as many things as you are. Even worse, our government does not tell each other what they know, so lots of people here are in fact in the dark too.

Not everyone is in the dark, but the ones that do know very much are rare.
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post Jan 28 2008, 04:14 PM
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i've read about abductees being given visions of the future

And according to most reports very few ever come true
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post Jan 28 2008, 05:24 PM
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I read somewhere that there was a process. They abduct you. Take you to a waiting room, put you on a table,examin you and debrief you. And Scottman as for why they are here, I've heard to take us into a new age,are returning after thousands of years,to rescue us from a world suddenly destroyed, to examine our culture sinc ethe last few thousand years,or that they actually envy us. Seems they have no free thought or real emotion. They think all logical and can't think strange or randomly. There's the ones about them running out of genetic material, haveing and intestinal problem, and want to carry out an invasion.
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post Jan 28 2008, 05:40 PM
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I read somewhere that there was a process. They abduct you. Take you to a waiting room, put you on a table,examin you and debrief you. And Scottman as for why they are here, I've heard to take us into a new age,are returning after thousands of years,to rescue us from a world suddenly destroyed, to examine our culture sinc ethe last few thousand years,or that they actually envy us. Seems they have no free thought or real emotion. They think all logical and can't think strange or randomly. There's the ones about them running out of genetic material, haveing and intestinal problem, and want to carry out an invasion.


fluid.....I think you covered everything there.
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post Jan 28 2008, 06:04 PM
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And Scottman as for why they are here, I've heard to take us into a new age...


Your thoughts on the matter are fine, but I say... ya right.... No new age is on their agenda. Please take no offense, it is just that... well, they don't know what a new age is anymore, they have no ambition. Ambition died out a long, long time ago.

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...are returning after thousands of years,to rescue us from a world suddenly destroyed,


And just who do you think destroyed it? I am not telling, I am asking.

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...or that they actually envy us.


I admit that my data is a bit old. But the last thing I saw on the matter was no such thing. Not saying no one here or there does not, but that is not a common view. Why should they? We are the ones on the primitive world full of weird people. They can in fact be proud of their own race, they have allot to be proud of.

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Seems they have no free thought or real emotion.


Err, well, there is some truth there. But it is not quite that bleak. We are working hard to copy them anyway.

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They think all logical and can't think strange or randomly.


That is just someone's nutty opinion. They have the same ability to day dream we have, or jump into a UFO and buzz some locals. I hear Microsoft is working on eyes everywhere to keep track of everyone under their employment. Well, they could take lessons from the grays but still... the grays are not that bad. Some dream of better things.

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There's the ones about them running out of genetic material, haveing and intestinal problem,


What the @#$% are you reading? Burn that book! It is useless trash! Their medical technology is beyond anything you can imagine. Not even our Sci-Fi gets it on the same level. They are no more in trouble with their breading then we are. The intestines are fine, better then your are after a Coka Cola! If not even better off. That is crap and a wasted of your time.

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and want to carry out an invasion.


They have invaded us plenty of times, don't know why they stopped. But now I guess it is true, they could invade. They are long over due and they will have to meet us in space if they take much longer. However... privileged info only... they will have a few... err... people to get around if they want to pull that off. At least some people are looking out for us. Lets please not let them down. It seams some one wants some peace in this area again and given a few hundred (possibly a thousand) more years, the grays will meet their match. If we are fast enough, and don't fall apart, we may be apart of it. The underdog is getting help. Mindboggling help. However the grays are not our enemy, but I would guess a few shots will be fired before this is settled. I hope it solves quickly, but either way, they will be overturned. At the rate things are going, Mankind will be the first they have to answer to.
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post Jan 28 2008, 08:07 PM
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SM....that was very well said.
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post Jan 28 2008, 11:39 PM
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Now this is a good question. Can they invent anything? Have they gotten to the point where nomore can be invented? So I guess that would take ambition.

As for invading us they haven't done. This alien named Ra enslaved us by cereating us in Africa to work mines. Some good bird aliens supposedly drove Ra out and THEY fought eachother.

No there is suppodly some great apocolpyse is going to happen and they are gonna come save us or the world.

Yes they are out of genetic material. It's just some greys are ought. You would have to go many 100s of millions of years for all the genetic combinations to have be worked. Besides the greys all look alike. There's certain greys created by reptoids to be slaves. They are controlled by a chip and work of the same design. Seems they needed some material to mixup their race. Add besides aliens like to use already existent DNA to make new creatures. Ra supposedly linked his DNA with Chimpanzees to make humans.
They supposedly mix DNA with creatures to make bigfoot and charbrcubra. They make hybrids. There's even some superace they're trying to engineer that will be realeased on our population. Supposedly at bases like Dulce one of their biggest jobs is genetic experiments. Got people with 4 legs.


Yes they think logicaly. They move with rythm and can't understand poetry. They say is they ever attack you say something doesn't make sense like"Your place is down to fire." and it'll buy you a few seconds.
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post Jan 29 2008, 12:20 AM
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Lol. That is a funny post. You have a nice set of facts there and are doing well. I can comment my opinion but I would rather not dilute your perspective with mine.

Thank you, for your post. I look forward to more from you.
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post Jan 29 2008, 08:12 AM
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I can comment my opinion but I would rather not dilute your perspective with mine.

Thank you, for your post. I look forward to more from you.


SM.....I agree with you there....[phew]
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post Jan 29 2008, 09:08 AM
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ScottMan I'm getting the impression that you know a hell of a lot more than you're letting on to. Someone appears to be giving you information that the rest of us aren't privy to, you lucky sod! If that isn't the case then I would say that you've done an immense amount of research and investigation in your own right. I'm inclined to assume the former.
I know that you said, in a previous post, something along the lines that because of circumstance etc. you weren't able to divulge your "sources". I just wish, and I'm sure others would agree with me, that you could open up a little and let us in on the secret of what is really happening, why? and under who's jurisdiction it is taking place.
Keep up the good work, your posts are always interesting and enlightening.
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post Jan 29 2008, 10:46 AM
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Lol, ya. It seems I do have allot. Perhaps too much. I got watch that it seems.
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post Jan 29 2008, 11:00 AM
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Lol, ya. It seems I do have allot. Perhaps too much. I got watch that it seems.


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You really are a deep one. However I respect that you feel the need for secrecy and I will not pursue the matter further. You have your reasons and they are enough for me, keep posting.
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post Jan 29 2008, 11:31 AM
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I like Fluid, I don't often see someone with clear ideas like this. Most people say something foggy and end it there.
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ScottMan I'm getting the impression that you know a hell of a lot more than you're letting on to.


This information is out there for those with the will to research and read.
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This information is out there for those with the will to research and read.


That is why this forum is held separate from more "scientific based" requirements.

After all, here is a branch of our universe that the scientific world refuses to get into. Limited data makes this subject nearly impossible to think with. If anyone did have an ability to think on the subject, he would clearly be drawing his conclusions on things that are not conventional facts. That is the same as making it up to anyone scientific.

For those that do wish to have a more scientific bases approach, your going to have to ask for facts that you can think with, or drop it as "unlikely". Remember this is a place where data is brought and theories are made.

The "Scientific world" has (right or wrong) a belief that wild thoeries can be formed that "stretch" the facts. If nothing can disprove the theory it is then plausible as a theory. It then remains a theory until facts are found that suport it or disprove it.
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