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post Feb 10 2008, 04:40 AM
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I want to know about MIBs. If you happen to see a flying saucer crash and no military peoples are around can the M.I.B.s find you? Aso they say they know all kinds of personal information on you. Any idea on how they findout? The public image of them is to be mean. I've reports that they're nice.....is that true?
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post Feb 10 2008, 05:13 AM
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Fluid, the MIB thingy was discussed pretty thoroughly in another thread on AU.

What was brought to light in that thread was the fact the MIB thing was a fabrication of a sci-fi writer back in the 1950’s with the express intent to sell a book and was a myth started for that very same reason

In an article written by John Sherwood (in which Sherwood comes ‘clean‘), "Gray Barker: My Friend, the Myth-Maker," John C. Sherwood reveals that at age eighteen, he collaborated with Gray Barker to create a hoax about what Barker called "blackmen" (MIB’s), three mysterious UFO inhabitants who silenced Sherwood's pseudonymous identity, "Dr. Richard H. Pratt."

The creation of the MIB myth in the 1950’s seems to be an attempt at marketing a sci-fi book… ~rore


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post Feb 10 2008, 05:16 AM
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The creation of the MIB myth in the 1950’s seems to be an attempt at marketing a sci-fi book…

That's merely what they want you to think.
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post Feb 10 2008, 05:54 AM
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Andrew posts: That's merely what they want you to think.
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Dang! And I fell for it!!

Bastards!!! I will envelope myself in tinfoil and commence to hunt these nefarious MIBs wherever they may be!

Could become a ‘life-quest’ and hmmm If I play my cards right, I may even get many others to contribute financially to my fantasy!
O happy Days! I can make money chasing a myth!!! Whoopee:D ~rore


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post Feb 10 2008, 07:59 AM
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Dan Akcroyd says he was followed by MIB's for a while
He claims one of them even gave him a dirty look
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post Feb 10 2008, 08:38 AM
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Strange fact is reports of MIB or similar figures have been reported by reliable people from around the world and by people who claim to have known nothing about it before hand.


http://wwwstrangecorridor.blogspot.com/200...andmothman.html

But the MIB phenomena still persists, and there are still claims of their existance by eye witnesses today...However, no photographic evidence has ever been offered up to substantiate these claims...Reliable ufo witnesses, contactees and experiencers are still being visited by 'someone' or 'something' that threatens and harrasess them into keeping quiet, that much is clear...But exactly 'who' or 'what' these things are, still remains a complete mystery...As far as the 'mothman' rumors go, people still believe it in Point Pleasant, WV...

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Terry said...
I find it strange that it's always after one party is dead that they come out and say oh it was all a hoax.

This should be the real question. Did the MIB exist before this man first encountered them and were just waiting to feed his story or do they exist because this man brought them to light and they could now move around more freely?

As for the MothMan, I think it is more than a little creepy to have that statue in town and they Moth Man has been around forever.

There are too many things out there to keep saying it's a weather balloon, a bear, a misidenified moose drinking out of a stream, then again if they came forward and said yes, this is real, this is real and Elvis is still alive there would still be some skeptics out there.

Fantastic article and great videos!!!

Terry

December 17, 2007 8:59 PM
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Terry,

yes, it's very easy to defame someone after their death to try and make your own wrong doings look not so bad eh?

And I find the whole mothman statue a tad freaky too, considering this creature was supposedly somehow involved in the deaths of 46 people...

The MIB reports go back to the 1940's much farther back than Barker and his nonsense...

So how do explain away that little discrepancy?

Glad you enjoyed the post...

Thanks for the comment!

Peace and white light,

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Nick -

It wouldn't surprise me in the least to discover that MIBs are real, if not entirely human. In fact, I'd be more surprised to discover they aren't real.

As for the moth man, well, that's another of my top ten places to visit... although I must say that in specials I've seen on television and whatnot, the people seem to be clinging to the tales, true or otherwise, as their one shot at fame and fortune...

Excellent piece of work here.

*Sparky*

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Sparky,

I wouldn't be all that surprised to find out that the MIB legend goes back even farther than we think...

There have been reports of contactees and eye witnesses getting visits from beings who didn't quite look, act or sound human long before the whole Barker fiasco even took place...

And as for Mothman? People had to have seen something strange for the rumor to have gotten started...

Every fairy tale creature, mythological beast or legendary monster has some modicum of truth attached to it...

Glad you enjoyed the post...

Thanks for your comment!

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post Feb 10 2008, 08:45 AM
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SD posts: Strange fact is reports of MIB or similar figures have been reported
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Not really strange imho SD.
People still report ‘demonic possession’ and to date, even with all the publicity and the modern tech available, nothing is indicated these people are indeed possessed by a demonic alien entity… ~rore


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Dan Akcroyd says he was followed by MIB's for a while
He claims one of them even gave him a dirty look


tw......maybe they didn't want him finding out to much about the Avro Saucer when he was making the movie "Avro Arrow".....wink.gif
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TW posts: Dan Akcroyd says he was followed by MIB's for a while
He claims one of them even gave him a dirty look
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I love Aykroyd… (rhymes with hemorrhoid…:rofl: )

One of the best comedians around imo… ~rore


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TW posts: Dan Akcroyd says he was followed by MIB's for a while
He claims one of them even gave him a dirty look
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I love Aykroyd… (rhymes with hemorrhoid…:rofl: )

One the best comedians around imo… ~rore


rore.....he is a great comedian....but he is surprisingly good in serious roles as well.....biggrin.gif
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rore.....he is a great comedian....but he is surprisingly good in serious roles as well...
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Yes he is Bravo… Just goes to show how versatile his acting ability really is…:alien: ~rore


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rore.....he is a great comedian....but he is surprisingly good in serious roles as well...
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Yes he is Bravo… Just goes to show how versatile his acting ability really is…:alien: ~rore


rore.....he did a fantastic job as the CEO of Avro in a movie about the Avro Arrow.
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post Feb 10 2008, 09:22 AM
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SD posts: Strange fact is reports of MIB or similar figures have been reported
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Not really strange imho SD.
People still report ‘demonic possession’ and to date, even with all the publicity and the modern tech available, nothing is indicated these people are indeed possessed by a demonic alien entity… ~rore


That is not a good comparison.
That involes actions/behavior that is open to suggestion.

Are we to assume then, that ALL reports, reguardless of when, where, by who and how many, are deliberate lies or a result of a decades long Mass Hysteria?!

This is similar in the thinking 'the bigfoot mystery is totally solved' because one man claimed to have been in a suit in the Paterson film.
Sorry, but I find it hard to swallow.


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SD posts: That is not a good comparison.
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You’re right SD. It’s a bad comparison in that demonic possession is claimed to have been around for millennia and MIB’s have basically been claimed to exist since the late 1950’s, when, it just so happens, 2 people created a hoax regarding MIB’s that many ufo believers grasped as ‘truth’ and promoted the hoax for the hoaxers… ~rore


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tw......maybe they didn't want him finding out to much about the Avro Saucer when he was making the movie "Avro Arrow".....wink.gif

Or maybe he just didnt like any of his movies biggrin.gif
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It is not that simple.
You seem to be ignoring many points.
Sherwood's hoax claim, gives much to think about that is certain.
But it is far from conclusive proof that all reports, as such or similar are lies or hysteria either. One must take them case by case.

Take this one for example from China.

Yangguan, China 1963

Chinese UFO investigator Shi Bo has uncovered a story that, while far from dramatic, raises some interesting questions concerning the exact nature of the MIB phenomenon, for while UFOs (and, to a lesser extent, MIB) have long been a part of American folklore, they have until only recently been a taboo subject in mainland China. When this set of circumstances is taken into consideration with the fact that the witness in this case was a six year old boy, we may justifiably find ourselves wondering how such an event could occur in the complete absence of a cultural point of reference (assuming, of course, that the existence of MIB is not an objective reality).

In Shi's 1983 book, China and Extraterrestrials, he relates the story of Li Jing-yang who, as a six-year-old boy in Yangguan, Shansi province in May, 1963, had an encounter with a UFO. The day after Li had seen " a shining, silvery disc" hanging in the sky while at play with his friends, he was stopped in the street by "a very tall man dressed entirely in black." The man, while pointing to the exact spot where Li had seen the disc, inquired as to whether the boy had seen anything unusual in the sky recently. Li responded that indeed he had, which elicited from the strange man a warning "never to tell anyone else" what he had seen. The MIB then went around a corner and seemingly disappeared. Li claims that this encounter was witnessed by several others who all noted and discussed the stranger's odd, mechanical movements, his automated-sounding voice, and the fact that his lips did not move when he spoke. Thus, in its effort to keep the disc-sighting of Li Jing-yang a secret, this MIB succeeded only in making a spectacle of itself.


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Sherwood writes, regarding his role in the MIB hoax:
“As I began to write this apologetic revelation in July 1997, the news came that the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency indeed may have participated in a coverup not unlike that supposedly initiated by the fabled M.I.B.
U.S. intelligence historian Gerald K. Haines wrote an unclassified article for Studies of Intelligence, a CIA journal, revealing that during the 1950s the U.S. Air Force and other agencies actually did conspire to suppress the UFO issue and to concoct false cover stories to explain sightings of such super-secret U.S. spy planes as the U-2 and later the SR-71 Blackbird.” More @ http://csicop.org/si/9805/barker.html

So, do I think there are Secret Govt. Agents? You bet and I’ve stated that frequently enough here on AU.
Do I think they are Nefarious Extra-Terrestrial Beings trying to pass off as Human? No.

I guess it boils down to definitions, as I’ve stated before.

Define MIB, then we can probably have a discussion that does not suffer from ‘mis-interpretations’ of a term. ~rore


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Define MIB, then we can probably have a discussion that does not suffer from ‘mis-interpretations’ of a term. ~rore
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I really dont believe in MIBs lol it was an ok movie.
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Why would he fabricate it? Back then nobody knew that UFOs were secret so he wouldn't have known the government would come after you.

I've heard that the MIBS are hybrids or what's called Roswell aliens.
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