I believe that that beings know as the grays are a race just watching and researching us. And not so different from a human studying a lab mouse, just trying to get by. or are they god

I believe that the Grays are our 'Parent' race, that they made us into sentient creatures, and that they watch over us like parents watching over their unruly children. lol

I'm so gullable.

I don't think it is quite a matter of "Good" or "Bad". I also don't think they are that interested in a little world like ours. Cross them and they could crush us like a bug with a military numbering more then our entire population.

The reason I don't think it is so easy to say is that this region of space has a long history. I also don't think the "Grays" are our "parents". I think that if we saw our ancestors we would know it right away. The difference in appearance is less then you would think.

This point sheds light on what is a better description of what is going on. I think our ancestors and the "Grays" are not allies. I also don't think they are at war. Nor do they want to be at war.

I think our ancestors put up a mean fight. And more importantly, I think they still can.

I think the "Grays" are worried that if we join with our ancestors, a rather big fighting force can be assembled in no time. I think that scares the daylights out of them.

This planet is too far away from anything to be important. Yet not too far to be a good military base to strike at them.

In other words they would like us to sit quiet. I don't know if we would get any help should they decide to attack. But possible war with our ancestors could be the reason they they had a change of heart and left us alone. They have hurt us and helped us. Now, they just watch us and this system. Our own history tells of battles in our skies. Who where they fighting? One thing is clear, they stay away from us now, now that we are about to go space age, they have never allowed us to do that before. Why now?

This is not the only factor, but I suspect that is something to consider.

do you think it may be possible that they need us. theres adduction cases talking of sperm and eggs being tookin from victims . as if they need our genes, possibly they ran out.

No, I don't think that is even an opinion. They don't need us for any thing like that. They can rebuild DNA without a problem. If they had such a problem they could solve it without us.

In fact they don't have medical science like we have it. As medical science is only a small branch of biology. They call their doctors by their name for a cell.

For some reason people here on Earth get this idea that this universe is flimsy. But it has been going on for many many billions of years before we came along.

Somehow that point was mist by whoever said grays had reproduction problems. Just because they have been around for a while does not mean they are having a problem reproducing. If the problem ever did happen (and I don't think their is even a small chance of it) they could solve it a number of ways:

A. Rewrite their DNA (they have it on file and have had it on file for millions of years)

B. Take the DNA from another life form (only a handful would be needed) and use it to restore their reproductive system. (In this case it would be a one time abduction, after that they would just duplicate it into their young and be done, no need to come back for more to abduct.)

C. Just make a new life form that did reproduce and perform as they want it to (unlike us, they know what makes a life form able to be sentient).

And lastly, if all else failed and for some reason they just really liked us, they could just take a few cells from us and then mass grow them. But becoming dependent on a life form on a planet like ours (that may disappear for a number of reasons) would be stupid and they would never tolerate that. We don't know much beyond ourselves, so it is easy to dream up how impotent we are, But to a race that is so old they schedule building to be torn down/rebuilt every few thousand years we are a quick flash in their history that may or may not stick around.

I saw this on a website about the Grey race.

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Small neo-saurian hominoids, very prolific and intelligent. (JW There is good chance that we have about 30 types of Greys.) May be the 'brains' or 'intellect' of the serpent race, whereas the larger 'Reptoids' allegedly act as the PHYSICAL overlords and thus are of a higher 'ranking' than the Greys. The Greys are logic-based and reportedly operate on base animal survival or predatory instincts and in most cases are emotionally insensitive to humans, and like other reptilian entities they 'feed' off of human and animal vital fluids by rubbing a 'liquid protein' formula on their bodies, which is then absorbed through the skin. Like typical reptiles which shed their skins the 'waste' is excreted back through the skin. The Greys range from 3 1/2 to 4 1/2 ft. tall on the average, with skin colors ranging from gray-white to grey-brown to gray-green to grey-blue. Aside from feeding off of human and animal proteins and fluids, they also allegedly feed off the 'life energy', the 'vital essence' or 'soul energy' of humans as do other reptilian species. This is why those humans seen working with the Greys (implanted and programmed 'drones', whether willingly or unwillingly) have appeared 'lifeless' and 'emotionless' to the witnesses who observed them. The Greys are reportedly EXTREMELY deceitful and although they act on 'logic', to them it is 'logical' to use extremely complex forms of deception to bring about their goals. They are the most commonly observed 'alien' entities encountered during UFO events.

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Here's a website you might like to check out - it's one of the many that you'll find if you use a search engine:
http://www.anomalies.net/archive/cni-news/CNI.0181.html

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Check out the Nephilim and Annunaki (Reptilian) race.
There is mentioning of UFO's/aliens/chariots of fire in the Bible. If you check out those few subjects you'll find a lot of information.

I would put them neutral.

Something is wrong with that. The grays are not under the control of reptoids. They are under the control of semi gods.

It was also the "Grays" that defeated the very small time operation we call the "Reptoids". And is why the "Grays" now control this planet. The "reptoids" controlled this planet from Mars. The last images of Mars show the "Grays" won resoundingly. It is my opinion that the Brotherhood of the snake (what is being referred to as "Reptoids") was worse then the grays in their treatment of us. The Brotherhood was into any number of twisted acts and did a lot in the name of religion. Out to "purify man", they kept us as slaves that needed to be punished into being good. Some of the genetic defects in modern man are their doing in an effort to make us more controllable.

The "Grays" have not been so kind either, resorting mostly to what is best described as a form of "mind control". They didn't seem to get the twisted pleasure in keeping us as slaves. Their civilization does not keep slaves and the effect is that it seems barbaric to them. They practice mind control on us to this day by "conditioned responses" designed to keep us out of their way. They want us to stay on this rock and squabble and not leave it or build ourselves up technologically and not make it uninhabitable.

The main problem being that humans of Earth are a strange lot. Within only a few years of them pulling out, we have language again, science is on the move and religion was making people civil and installing morals. The technological advancement is staggering. However I should point out that we are lacking huge areas of understanding. This makes for an unstable civilization with lots of distractions and internal noise.

Me too. In the end, they are really not that evil. What we receive in terms of "evil" is a plague they suffer with too. At this time this is a lawless area. back in there more civilized areas, they are a much more respectable people. In other worlds, there is a reason they are a powerful civilization.

There has been visitors that have come here that are far evolved beyond the greys.
Just my opinion.

Just in refrence to the Grays not looking like us.!

Are you serious!!!!

What are the odds that an alien race:

1) Have 2 eyes
2) Have 2 Arms
3) Have 2 legs
4) Have 1 nose (or nose hole lol)
5) Have 1 mouth


Let's not fool ourselves kids, the Grays DO look very similar to us for a supposed extra-terrestrial race. It's undeniable. They are undeniably primate like in there general form, just like us. And unless you are going to say it's because of 'panspermia' I can't think of a better reason why we would wind up shaped just like them.

True, but under that light, so do apes, dogs, cats, monkeys, and a large number of other life forms on this planet.

With so many life forms, it is not hard to believe that aliens could use similar anatomy. Not all these life forms are directly related. So too could an alien race look something sort of like us us and still not be related.

I admit that we have a limited number of aliens to examine. But don't get stuck on one just because they show themselves more often. There are a number of human descended variations. But "Grays" are not one of them, at least not recently on our descendants tree.

The Humans of Earth are genetically unique, but so are many creatures on Earth that look exactly the same in all ways but are not.

There is allot of space separating us from aliens that look like us. But they are still there.

Evil on all counts. Now, they might not think they are evil, they might even think they are trying to be good, they might even just be down and out evil with evil intent. Who knows what they are thinking, but the fact remains, if the stories are true, they are evil.

One, you don't just abduct people and force them to participate in any sort of scientific experiment. You ask. If the individual or individuals involved say no, then you ask someone else. Even if you are trying to save your own race, or the race of another, you ask first. Even in our own society, when medical procedures are forced on others, those that have done the forcing are punished for their crimes, no matter how much the accused plead they were just trying to help humanity. Even the ones that aren't punished are still considered evil.

Two, you just don't go around stealing people's food sources and killing them. (Cattle mutilations) You do what scientists have done for years, purchase them. Even explorers of old were quick to set up trade with new people they have "discovered" to help ease the pain of taking away things that might be dear to the locals they have "found". Many times the locals offer what the explorer asks for as gifts of peace. I'm pretty sure if you told a farmer you could cure cancer by studying their cattle he/she would not only offer the cattle for a lower price, but maybe just give you one or two that he/she doesn't want anymore.

You just don't hover over nuclear silos and shut the things down. Especially when the particular device in the silo isn't specifically aimed at you. You might want to barter a piece agreement between the two warring factions, but you don't force anything.

It all boils down to, there's a right way of doing things and their's a wrong way of doing things. If you do it the wrong way, you are evil, period. Doing something to someone else against there will is evil. If you ask and they agree, then it's okay.

This even works when you travel overseas. The one thing an individual has to remember while traveling is the places they are going to are not their's. They have to abide by the laws of the land. If something is illegal there that is legal in their own country it is not a defense to say it's legal in your country if you get caught. On the other hand some things maybe legal where you are traveling that are illegal back home. (Just for those that do decide to travel, don't talk crap about the host country's government or society. It's very rude. You wouldn't want people talking crap about you and your's when they don't even really know your and your's. You can talk crap about the place as soon as you get home with your buddies and family.)

Now an argument may come up that there were secret meetings with the government, blah blah blah. If this happens to be true the statement still stands, it's evil. And the person or persons who bartered such a deal have committed an evil deed.

Bottom line, they're evil, or at least committing a lot of evil deeds. This is not their planet, they are guests that are acting as intruders, thus they are intruders. Maybe they understand this, maybe they don't. All I know is, if they bother me or mine I will do what I can to stop them just as I would any fellow human trying to do the same thing. Now if they knock on the door politely and ask if they can have a conversation over tea or coffee, that's just fine.

First off, this is my first post on these forums. These damned alien sites and junk are going to be the fall of me.. I just can't get stay away from them now that I've dug around a bit.

But as for this comment, it's kinda funny you mentioned that. I've taken courses at UTexas that explains evolution, what's needed, and all the proposed theories that follow. You're VERY right it's strange, however when you look at it, it's REALLY not strange at all. There are many ideal traits that are needed to produce very productive technological advances, such as:

1) Have 2 eyes- 2 Eyes is absolutely ideal for success. If you think about it, if you only have one eye, then you have no depth perception, which is extremely important in survival. Any number of eyes after serves no real advantage, except for that of being able to see from all sides of you (eyes on the back of your head). You get no notable gain in perception, and it doesn't increase your eyesight. Lastly, the more number of eyes you have, the more processes your brain must run, which plays a HUGE roll on reflexes and whatnot. If your eyes are different distances from your brain, you'll see (and process) things at separate times. This is why insects have quick reflexes.. small distances from brain-eye. Lastly, can you imagine how complex it would be to see what's behind you, AND process what's in front of you. More than 2 eyes = not a good idea.

2) Have 2 Arms & 3) Have 2 legs- Typically things start on four legs. We may not have (based on the idea of ancient ancestors and us being created from aliens), but THOSE aliens have undoubtedly started on 4 legs. Why 4? It's tough to readily balance on 2 legs, and any more than 4 legs begin to interfere w/ each other. Think of a running horse, then give him 2 more legs. Those legs would be slapping against each other every stride. Multiple legs are meant for stability, not speed. Speed > stability for survival. Eventually, there were reasons of gaining thumbs. How else could we grab things, such as food? How could we climb trees to get that food? Go try climbing w/o thumbs, and tell me how great it was. This leads to walking on 2 legs. Some things were just out of reach, and needed two legs. As this adapted, and our "front legs" became better at holding things, they were no longer legs, and could now be used for things like building tools.. something feet couldn't do. W/o 2 arms, ..no tools, and therefor no technology.

4) Have 1 nose (or nose hole lol)- I really don't see why there'd be a need for a 2nd nose. One nose works just fine, and from there, the only way I can see someone getting more productive is by increasing their sense of smell. Again, as the eyes, 2 noses would probably cause a little extra confusion for the brain as well. NOW you see why a little simplicity is ideal. You make things TOO advanced, and the coordination required is out of reach. The majority of people can't do a MUCH simpler task of doing a figure 8 with one foot, while doing a figure 8 with your hand in the opposite direction. Our coordination is not THAT amazing.

5) Have 1 mouth- Again, I don't see the advantage. I'd LOVE if I can eat 2 samiches at the same time.. each with a different mouth. However, two mouths means you need two throats, sets of teeth, tongues... quite a few things. Then the possibility of two respiratory systems leading together. Again, this would make things more complicated than they need to be.

Anything that has these characteristics proves capable of possessing technology. Hell, there are monkeys in the jungle now that are making spears!

As for whether or not we were made from aliens, or created naturally.. I'm still not too sure. Technically speaking, as long as you have electricity (energy.. ie lightning), Nitrogen, Carbon, Oxygen, and Hydrogen.. life can be made. This has been done before. It starts as molecules, then eventually much more complex variants.. like DNA and single cell organisms. Then multi-cell... you get the drift. So I can VERY easily see this happening, with the Oxygen produced from early volcanoes and the crazy early thunderstorms.

But on another note, I wouldn't be much surprised if they created us at all, and I had a theory in mind about that before I heard anything similar to it.

And now for the point.. I'd say they're natural-bad. I think they're curious as to our kind and our biology. I've heard that they're actually plant-based, so they are quite a bit different from us. However, I've also heard many reports that they tend to LIE quite a bit. At least all of the captured EBEs do, which I've only heard of them being Grays. I'll go to details later, but for now.. little ceasars is calling my name..

I think that all is speculation and secondhand knowledge from questionable sources. Even if someone had a direct encounter it is unlikly they would learn much more than what they observed. If they were willing to reveal much information it wouldn't be in confidences to abductees.

You dont try to explain to an ape why you want to stick a probe up his A. But if you found that making an ape noise communication made him hold still for a minute you would make an ape noise. What the ape interpreted the information to be would be of little concern. Just as long as it made him keep that little wiggly but still for a few seconds.

Further I think many, and often without benefit of receiving an A probe themselves, disemeinate conclusions they like or that fit in with their beliefs.

The aliens arent the only ones with agendas.

Thats why I always suspect people who profess to have learned what the alien deal is all about. Especially if the revelations play into the expectations of an audience.

There are so many different claim about the greys that i don't believe anything i hear about them.

Some claim they are "bad" and working as slaves for the reptilians.
Some say they are "good" and are just an android race made by some higher up aliens to keep a watch on us.
Some say they are neutral, visiting from time to time
Some say bla bla bla bla. There are countless of different claims on what/who they are. The fact of the matter is tho, we have no idea if they even exist.

Arguing on which side the greys, reptilians, or any other alien is on is just as pointless as asking what is stronger: An Dragon, or a Hydra? We can't answer, simply because they most likely do not exist, and never have, thus we know nothing of them.

The same applies to aliens.

I think it's all hypothetical. So hypothetically, given the most reliable stories that are floating around, how would you categorize them and their supposed actions? True, no one really knows if they are real or not, but if it is true, I say the little f'ers are evil, or at least committing evil acts, and thus we should defend ourselves from them.

the zoking's good, evil or just incredible stupid

I know of the grays, but are there other races? I wonder if aliens have different colors and if they can be racist too. Like if forest green color aliens are like the black people of the cosmos and eat space chicken, and the grays dislike them because they act a different way. I have always wondered this, but I have only seen the grays.