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post Feb 29 2008, 01:31 AM
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I thought this was truly odd.

http://www.sptimes.ru/index.php?action_id=2&story_id=25093

Doctors said the five had died of hypothermia. Slobodin’s skull was fractured, but the injury was not considered fatal.


The four — Nicolas Thibeaux-Brignollel, 24, Ludmila Dubinina, 21, Alexander Zolotaryov, 37, and Alexander Kolevatov, 25 — appeared to have suffered traumatic deaths. Thibeaux-Brignollel’s skull had been crushed, and Dubunina and Zolotarev had numerous broken ribs. Dubinina also had no tongue.


I'd like your thoughts on THIS story.

Particularly ...

Deepening the mystery, a test of the clothes found they contained high levels of radiation.


more
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_Accident

Notably, the bodies had no external wounds, as if they were crippled by a high level of pressure.


# Traces from the camp showed that all group members (including those who were found injured) left the camp of their own accord, by foot. This implies that those with injuries were injured after they left the camp.
# The fatal injuries of the three bodies could not have been caused by another human being.
# Forensic radiation tests had shown high doses of radioactive contamination on the clothes of a few victims. These test results were not taken into account for the final verdict.


Under: Facts Ignored by official inquest...
After the funerals, relatives of the deceased claimed that the skin of the victims had a strange orange tan, and that the dead were completely grey-haired. ... Another group of hikers (about 50 kilometers south of the accident) reported that they saw strange orange spheres in the night sky ... # Some reconstructions of the victims' behavior suggest that they were blinded. The rescue team had seen that the victims broke damp and thick pine branches for the fire, even though there was good dry brushwood around.
# Some objects found near the camp were not identified as properties of any of the group members.
# One victim, Dubunina, had no tongue.


Interesting here:
It was suggested also that the relief configuration and the winds might cause an infrasound effect which led the people to panic.


and from the Wiki on infrasound:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrasound

Infrasound has been known to cause feelings of awe or fear in humans.[9] Since it is not consciously perceived, it can make people feel vaguely that supernatural events are taking place.

Some film soundtracks make use of infrasound to produce unease or disorientation in the audience.


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post Feb 29 2008, 03:57 AM
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Very odd indeed KR the only thing i can think of that would make them leave the tent in such a hurry is pure and simple ''Avalanche''...it could explain why they left the tent in such a hurry... as for the other stuff i guess we will never know...


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post Feb 29 2008, 05:51 AM
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hi m8
an avalanche could be a theory but i doubt it.maybe they witnessed somthing they should'nt have ie;military tests,secret operations.no survivors=no witnesses
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post Feb 29 2008, 08:32 AM
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Wouldn't an avalanche covered everything? Doesnt seem to me they would have even been able to find the tent if that had happened.


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post Feb 29 2008, 05:03 PM
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I think an avalanche has already been discounted as rescuers found no evidence of either a rock avalanche or a snow avalanche.

It may be that they THOUGHT they heard an avalanche, but it still doesn't explain the pressure injuries, especially in light of the fact that the injuries appear to have occurred AFTER they left the tent.

Also, note to Mods: Why was this moved?

We have weird lights in the sky, mysterious deaths and radiation. There are two current theories, one of which involves UFOs, and the other which involves a conspiracy by the Russians to cover up the presence of civilians during either a nuclear test or nuclear accident.

I could understand moving this to the conspiracy thread, and I don't mind it being moved to 'general-off-topic', but I was wondering why ...


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post Feb 29 2008, 06:00 PM
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I felt that the main subject was not about UFOs and Aliens and that there a low chance that this was the cause.
It is borderline.
If any of the other Mods are in disagreement they are welcome to move it again.

My gut feeling is that the Russian knows much more than they will say.Those people may have seen a secret test they were not suppose to. A case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.


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post Feb 29 2008, 08:31 PM
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No worries, SD. It's fine where it is. I was just wondering. I agree the Russian military knows more than it's saying. It's a really interesting case though.


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post Mar 1 2008, 04:07 AM
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I think an avalanche has already been discounted as rescuers found no evidence of either a rock avalanche or a snow avalanche.

It may be that they THOUGHT they heard an avalanche, but it still doesn't explain the pressure injuries, especially in light of the fact that the injuries appear to have occurred AFTER they left the tent.

Also, note to Mods: Why was this moved?

We have weird lights in the sky, mysterious deaths and radiation. There are two current theories, one of which involves UFOs, and the other which involves a conspiracy by the Russians to cover up the presence of civilians during either a nuclear test or nuclear accident.

I could understand moving this to the conspiracy thread, and I don't mind it being moved to 'general-off-topic', but I was wondering why ...


Yeah maybe they heard something and as you say thought it was an Avalanche..this certainly is odd, the Nuclear theory could be plausible mate.....this happened in the Urals and from what i can gather the Urals were the hot bed for Soviet Nuclear progam...but even that theory leaves unanswered questions.....


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Dubinina also had no tongue.


Weird.


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post Mar 2 2008, 06:43 PM
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Predators will often go for the eyes, tongue, genitals and (sorry to say this, shield your eyes) anus. Generally insects and predators try to go for soft tissues, tissues easy to grab (finger digits), etc. They'll also try to get to the internal organs as quickly as possible.

However, these bodies showed no outward signs of damage, reportedly, so that MIGHT rule out predation. I'm only saying it's been observed, and people have said the same about cattle mutilation.

The tongue being missing weirds me out too, not to mention the radiation, and ... well, everything about this case.

I also find the theory interesting that they might have been blind.


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post Mar 3 2008, 03:04 AM
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Predators will often go for the eyes, tongue, genitals and (sorry to say this, shield your eyes) anus. Generally insects and predators try to go for soft tissues, tissues easy to grab (finger digits), etc. They'll also try to get to the internal organs as quickly as possible.

However, these bodies showed no outward signs of damage, reportedly, so that MIGHT rule out predation. I'm only saying it's been observed, and people have said the same about cattle mutilation.

The tongue being missing weirds me out too, not to mention the radiation, and ... well, everything about this case.

I also find the theory interesting that they might have been blind.


With the tongue being missing(((shiver))) is it possibly that he had bitten it of himself i.e with a blow to the head or jaw during a fall.....?


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