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post Mar 8 2008, 09:06 AM
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Project Camelot has just received a communication from a Norwegian politician about that country's preparations for a future catastrophe - the details of which are known at the highest levels of government.

We immediately exchanged further e-mails with this person to verify identity and check facts. What we have published here may be the most extraordinary and potentially important single message we have ever received.



I am a Norwegian politician. I would like to say that difficult things will happen from the year 2008 till the year 2012.

The Norwegian government is building more and more underground bases and bunkers. When asked, they simply say that it is for the protection of the people of Norway. When I enquire when they are due to be finished, they reply “before 2011”.

Israel is also doing the same and many other countries too.

My proof that what I am saying is true is in the photographs I have sent of myself and all the Prime Ministers and ministers I tend to meet and am acquainted with. They know all of this, but they don’t want to alarm the people or create mass panic.

Planet X is coming, and Norway has begun with storage of food and seeds in the Svalbard area and in the arctic north with the help of the US and EU and all around in Norway. They will only save those that are in the elite of power and those that can build up again: doctors, scientists, and so on.

As for me, I already know that I am going to leave before 2012 to go the area of Mosjøen where we have a deep underground military facility. There we are divided into sectors, red, blue and green. The signs of the Norwegian military are already given to them and the camps have already been built a long time ago.

The people that are going to be left on the surface and die with along the others will get no help whatsoever. The plan is that 2,000,000 Norwegians are going to be safe, and the rest will die. That means 2,600,000 will perish into the night not knowing what to do.

All the sectors and arks are connected with tunnels and have railcars that can take you from one ark to the other. This is so that they can be in contact with each other. Only the large doors separate them so that the sectors are not compromised in any matter.

I am very sad. Often I cry with others that know that so many will learn too late, and then it will all be over for them. The government has been lying to the people from 1983 till now. All the major politicians know this in Norway, but few will say it to the people and the public - because they are afraid in case they too will miss the NOAH 12 railcars that will take them to the ark sites where they will be safe.

If they tell anyone, they are dead for sure. But I don’t care any more about myself. Mankind must survive and the species must survive. People must know this.

All the governments in the world are aware of this and they just say it is going to happen. For those of the people that can save themselves I can only say reach for higher ground and find caves up in the high places where you can have a food storage for at least five years with canned food and water to last for a while. Radiation pills and biosuits are also advisable if your budget allows it.

For the last time I say may God help us all... but God will not help us I know. Only each person individually can make a difference. Wake up, please...!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21825614 Doomsday seed bank gears up for business
Cooldown process begins for vault dug into Arctic mountainside
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post Mar 8 2008, 09:06 AM
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post Mar 8 2008, 10:44 AM
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CVC.....thank you for the warning.
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post Mar 8 2008, 05:43 PM
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21825614......
SHOWS PICTURE OF TUNNEL VAULT

OSLO, Norway - Refrigeration units on Friday begin cooling a new doomsday vault dug into an already frigid Arctic mountainside to protect the world's seeds in case of a global catastrophe.

Norway blasted the Svalbard Global Seed Vault deep into the permafrost of a remote Arctic archipelago to protect as many as 4.5 million of the world's agricultural seeds from climate change, plant epidemics, natural disasters or war. It is due to open Feb. 26.

The Svalbard Archipelago, 300 miles (480 kilometers) north of the mainland, was selected because of its remote location far from many threats, as well as for its cold climate and permafrost.


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"It's very satisfying to see the vault evolve from a bold concept to an impressive facility that has everything we need to protect crop biodiversity," said Norway's Agriculture Minister Terje Riis-Johansen.

Norway first proposed building what it called a "Noah's Ark" for the world's seeds in June 2005, and started construction a year later, blasting a nearly 400-foot (120-meter) tunnel into a frozen mountain and placing the vault for foil-wrapped seeds deep inside. Each sample holds about 500 seeds.

Over the next two months, powerful cooling units will bring its temperature down to the target of about zero degrees Fahrenheit (-18 degrees Celsius) from the current 23 degrees F (-5 degrees C).

"The seed vault is the perfect place for keeping seeds safe for centuries," said Cary Fowler, executive director of the Rome-based Global Crop Diversity Trust, a project partner. "At these temperatures, seeds for important crops like wheat, barley and peas can last for up to 1,000 years."

According to the project, there are already about 1,400 seed banks, mostly run by countries for their own seeds, but these could be affected by economic problems, wars, political unrest or natural disasters. The project Web site says the national seed bank of the Philippines was wiped out last year by a typhoon, and banks in Iraq and Afghanistan have been destroyed by war.

The Svalbard vault is intended as a final backup for all other seed banks.



"The vast collection is intended as a hedge against disaster so that food production can be restarted anywhere on the planet should it be threatened by a regional or global catastrophe," a news release said.

While Norway will own the vault, countries sending seeds will own the material they deposit — much as with a bank safe deposit box.

"We believe the design of the facility will ensure that the seeds will stay well-preserved even if such forces as global warming raise temperatures," said project manager Magnus Bredeli Tveiten of the Norwegian government's Directorate of Public Construction.

Engineers started cooling down the concrete vault with temporary 30-kilowatt refrigeration systems brought in from the mainland. When the target temperatures are reached, a smaller cooling system, as well as the permafrost of the mountain, will maintain the desired temperature.


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post Mar 8 2008, 05:54 PM
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So what exactly is it that'll happen? A planet? A flood? Nuclear war? I'm about as high up in elevation as you can in Nebraska, the highest point for miles around my house is behind it, and it's just a hill.

I'll just rough it out though, nothing's going to get me down or kill me. Thanks for warning us before hand, I'm telling ALL my friends while I can. Hopefully they'll be able to do something.

All in all, I'll rough it out as long as I can, and by jove if I live five years without dying during it it'll be with what you can get in Nebraska. Northeast Nebraska.

I'm going to die, aren't I? Oh well, best die fighting the forces of nature. At least I'll be at peace knowing that I tried to beat nature.
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post Mar 8 2008, 06:45 PM
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Isn't you're thread 'Doomsday Vault', the same, Cricket?
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post Mar 8 2008, 11:07 PM
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Cricket, excellent link and information. However, there is one error (and this isn't your fault, Cricket. The source is wrong):

The Afghan seedbank was not destroyed by war. It was destroyed by the Taliban BEFORE the war simply out of spite. This was a major loss to their ecological security.


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post Mar 9 2008, 10:15 AM
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I didnt know that.
Not sure, just thought it was interesting reading about the vault. Actually Lizz sent this story to me so she gets the credit of finding it not me.


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post Mar 10 2008, 09:57 PM
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Wow... it is getting harder and harder to think this will just pass just like the rest of the other times....oh well just wait and see kinda thing.
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post Mar 11 2008, 07:01 AM
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I am sorry if my threads tick you off . I am searching for my own answers and asking for thoughts on it. I thought that is what this forum is for.


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post Mar 11 2008, 07:19 AM
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QUOTE (cricket @ Mar 11 2008, 06:01 AM) *
I am sorry if my threads tick you off . I am searching for my own answers and asking for thoughts on it. I thought that is what this forum is for.




Exactly sis . I think many of us are searching for anything positive . We are looking for solid proof that all of this is JUST a nightmare or maybe a bad dream . Thats why , we find anything that MIGHT be interesting to the next person we POST in hopes we have discovered yet another unanswered question.
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post Mar 16 2008, 03:52 AM
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Now they're talking about a doomsday vault on the MOON!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtm...0/sciark110.xml


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post Mar 16 2008, 06:24 AM
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These Vaults are all good ideas.
These store the genetic information of every seed (Useful) on the planet, so in case of a major catastrophe (I.e., Sudden climate change caused by meteor/volcano) we can provide seeds and continue growing plants in the place that is now suitable.

One on the moon would be a good idea providing it was deep underground and have thick walls, due to the constant debris hitting the moon.


Food is out major physiological need, without the energy from it, we're useless.
It makes sense that they prepare for things that we know are a matter of when, not if.
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post Apr 2 2008, 02:53 AM
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The Arctic Seed Vault is a great project......as is the Amsterdam hemp seed bank which stores thousands of varieties of hemp from around the planet. antique and organic seed banks may help save the world from the corrupt scientists that are polluting organic vegetation with genetically mutated/modified plants which then infect neighboring crops. Farmers in India found a secret genetically modified (GM) farm in the middle of their natural crops and burned it down. I dont know if it was Monsanto or Du Pont or one of the usual suspects...I'd have to research further. Jatropha bushes berries produce 40 percent oil and India grows over 116 million acres including along the India Railways tracks to power their trains. Jatropha needs no watering and animals dont eat it. Plant it along the interstate freeway greenbanks and median strips with processing stations every 200 miles and throughout the deserts of US and Australia. Wipe out OPEC and their fat slimey Texan cohorts permanently. Democratize democracy for real freedom from energy slavery and pointless war profiteering by enemies of Earth. Support the Arctic Seed Vault in your neighborhood now. banana.gif
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