I am not kidding ,by his dumb actions he made more positive things for human beings than any other in history.He open the eye so many and made they brain working better that something is very wrong in this world,to many acted before him like we would be close to heaven,he show us we are closer but to hell.For make thinking and acting some many people around the world I would give him Nobel Peace Price,this looks bad today seems to me can save this world from worst things.Peace

Wow... I just don't know how to respond to that!

The idea that someone out there actually thinks Bush is a positive influence on the word makes me kind of queasy... lol

Everyone is entitled to their opinion I suppose.

This post has been edited by RWTAKEN: Mar 18 2008, 12:26 PM

Sometime by tring to do good but our lock of knowledge we make devil and opposite way.By this what he done he create huge very possitive movements around the world,he started ,many people wchich are active today in positive meaning of this word ,they are doing so because his actions,think about it,maybe he tried created something diffrent ,but this is a reality.On the end you must give him this price,he done it,for so long so many were sleeping and gave them power and reson to act,to be active.Dangers were the same before him most just haven't notice it.

more dumb actions he creates,more oppsition he will create,and in some point is a good chance in some point common sense and real values will win.I new before he became a president ,how danger place to be Earth is,but not many want to listen,things are changing ,I dont seperate people on good and bad anymore ,no one of us is clean ,we are less or more dirty ,point to find the road to the bathroom and shower.Peace.OUr failed perception are in us for centuries ,they have very deep roots ,that's why is so hard to change them.IF you get to some levels you see world diffrent way,I am not critizaising only if you read my other posts I am giving so kind solution,no one of us is the same another words we don't see the same way the same things,this huge power if you set is correct and used.I dont think perfection exists,you have three basic colors and by mixing them you create next ,seems to me is no end of it,creativite doesnt have bothers,what sense would make live if we would know everything,only makes sense if we have place to go and we getting closer ,later alittle be back,later again closeer but we never there.Peace

Haha, yeah, let's just agree to disagree... the only thing I've ever agreed with him on is that he feels the need to crack down on the illegal immigrants streaming into our country. Aside from that, him and I have very different views.

Oil and power, thats what Bush mostly cares about.

GTH....I may agree with him more than you do.....but a Noble Peace Prize.....I highly doubt that...

I disagree ,his view on enviroment and on another side more news on ecologic destruction,gave beginning to many movements,and many people get involved in it by recognizing danger,many of them wouldn't get involved if not his action,similar is with Iraq war,many begin to forsee WWIII by his action,and this made them active.IF you would agree with you would put less attention to many things,he made alot people thinking for real .You can try to explain to people they are going in very wrong direction and in reality only few will change and act,but if would let say in close future exploded a few nuclear devices around the world,if I am right those wchich are saying is impossible to change will change their mind(at least majorityof them),no my fault that to many until see tragedy,won't change.They ask about it ,I dont know why is so hard to understand for people something so simple like"imagine"John lennon,and what is unlogic inthis ,because seems to me is very simple and correct ,so you tell me what kind of logic we are using and where we the best and the smartest ones heading .

Just ask people and some organisation what push them to act,to trying to change the worldNobel winner Al Gore or Bush,I bet Bush activite many more.Try ,make your research,trust me can surprise you result,let me no what stands for higher activty people in certain areas ecology,peace.Maybe I am wrong

g69.....let me know if I have this right.....just a simple short answer

Because of all the things Bush has done against peace and the environment, do you mean he has raised awareness to bring more people to push for reforms in those areas?

Oh GOD ... I bet you NOT even old enough to VOTE .

Well, that is a very condescending remark, Liz. I'm surprised..given your call for tolerance of unpopular opinions in the Planet X thread. The poster is entitled to his or her own political opinions and to express them without being personally insulted.

This post has been edited by iwant2believe2: Mar 18 2008, 10:13 PM

Ouch! Liz! Not playing nice!

Consider this, if you were a young Iraqi female, say like 16 years old, what might your opinion be? Well, facing the prospect of no education, no job, having to wear a burqa all day, being a considered a piece of property rather then a person... you might just like that Ass****... sorry, I mean George Bush.

Living under a military dictatorship is kinda tough and I suspect there are many people from Iraq who consider GB a savior... god, even saying that raises the hackles on the back of my neck.

But let's be understanding, it is possible for someone to have a valid reason for liking that screwed up, undereducated, inarticulate, goofy elephant eared, coke snorting son of a Bush.

Yeah, I'm not aiming to raise anyone's ire here...I just thought the remark was unduly harsh...

Everyone has there good points I suppose. I have to say I admire gilan on the grounds hes saying what he believes. Bush has done some good things, but they escape me right now.

I don't feel strongly toward Bush in either direction..rather I am more opposed to the ideologies and the proponents of those ideologies which influence his decisions. Bush is a tool...a puppet...a figurehead of underlying factions...as much as any one of us would be should we sit in the Oval Office. The Office of the Presidency has always been and always will function as a tool. Its not the man which I am opposed to but the ideologies which currently hold sway in the office. The next president will be no different..and the next there after and so on...for I've no hope of a humanist ideology gaining power over a largely selfish society.

I haven't said I stand for this what he is doing,I said his harsh action created huge amount very possitive movements around the world,more then any other actions.Try to diffrenciete, try to come to people and talk ,majority will refuse you,but if they see real danger they are changing,it's importnant.We must change ,we really can't run this world and live the way wchich we are doing right now.First time in history from 60 years we can destroy ourself,and if we will change if history can be a guide ,we will do it.In danger is now 6,5 bln people,anywar before was a small battle compering to our today possibilities,and i think we have no too much time for change,is possible just good enough amount of us must understand it,many times in history before people were predict end of the world,but in reality this became possible after creation atomic bomb,we really capable to do it,but we are running this world the same way like nuclear weapons wouldn't exist.If happen something horrible ,let say would dissapear a few big cities in just on day or even one hour can save this world.

I think his presence is worrying what it shows...
A big chunk of America are stupid, not just to elect him once but again.

And also they would rather elect an idiot who uses the excuse that "God told me too" over an Atheist or black person.


But, I do agree somewhat... His stupidity has caused many people to lose faith in not just him but his family. I equally hate Al Gore... Yeah, at least he's trying but he's doing it with so much hypocrisy and false information that his words are being received as just a static noise in my ear.
His actions are not the main reason we're informed about wars and such.
(i.e., Any person would have learnt about the Vietnam war (And some would argue America won it due to biased and wrong teaching that happened a while ago) and World war II (To test this, say that among the greatest leaders to ever step foot on this earth; people with knowledge of WWI & II will generally agree.)

And, CAJUNLIZ; Would you like me to insult you based upon your opinion? No? Then don't do it to others because all that does is makes you seem immature.

This post has been edited by Xeno: Mar 19 2008, 11:32 AM

xeno.....I'll bite who are the greatest leasders from WW1 and WW2?

I've never heard anyone teaching that the US won in Vietnam.....the only person I've heard that said we came close to winning was a former MI6 agent.

one question......if Gore is also an idiot....why does Bush's election make all americans idiots?

Ah, you misunderstand CB.
By great, I didn't mean good.... Whoever wouldn't shoot him on sight has serious problems.

Al Gore isn't an idiot, he is an hypocrite. And, I didn't say all, not even the majority; I said a big chunk (That could be anything from 10-49%)... The chunk that would let a man continue (So, I mean primarily Re-Election) being president that has the qualities bus has.