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Mar 21 2008, 04:53 PM
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I have discovered the body of the Virgin Mary. I do not want to go into further detail. I know people will want me to tell the whole story so they accept for themselves if the story is true. I am not interested to proove the story. No one reading this post has to believe the information if they do not want to.
I can say that it will probably take someone else alot of time to find out the truth about everything that is written about the Virgin Mary and then discover her body. What I know is that based on historical information that her husband was Joseph. Maybe in a thousand years, when they do discover the truth they will know why I am not posting any further information. Even when they do discover the truth, they will spend alot of time trying to understand it all. What I can say is the person known as the Virgin Mary does exist and can be proven beyond doubt. Those who believe in the Virgin Mary can continue with what they have known about thier beliefs and the people who have little concern for the Virgin Mary can remain unconcerned. If the body of the Virgin Mary was revealed, I doubt opinions of her life will change. I know that people will want to know everything so they can make up their minds. My view is that it might be considered disrespectful to the Virgin Mary to go into further detail. I do not want to post any information now that I would regret later. I have my own opinions about my discovery and everyone else will have theirs. After the 2,000 years since the life of Mary and her son Jesus with their lifes mostly a mystery, my opinion is that revealing everything will only keep everything as it is now. It will not help the church or change unbelievers. People will not be changed by the discovery. As soon as the information is open to the public, the Virgin Mary discovery will become just another side show. The story of the Virgin Mary would become a source of temporary entertainment. To be more clear, the story would probably end up on the back page of a tabloid magazine. It would also be possible that people would be led to believe the story is not substantiated even though the information is clear. I mention that the story of the Virgin Mary would probably end up on the back page of a tabloid magazine because I saw a story that said that someone believed they had discovered the tombs of the Christ family-Mary and Joseph. They were not sure. There was a possibility according to these people that it could have been the actual tombs and no-one acted like it was anything to be concerned with. So when I proove the actual location of the Virgin Mary's body, how would that be accepted by the public? The Virgin Mary did state in a messages she gave at one of her apparitions that people want proof of her existance or the existance of Jesus. She explained that if she or Jesus did appear to people that later people would dismiss what had happed just as they do with U.F.O. sightings. At first they would say that it had happened. Later they would explain it all away like it never really happened. People now who will not know more about my discovery of the body of the Virgin Mary will be curious and want to know more. If I did reveal the information, they would spend about 5 minutes on the information and then gone on to something else. So why reveal the information? Actually, I have made the discovery myself and consider it slightly shocking, but I can accept some of the information. For any of the people who will reply to ask about how I know if it is the body of the Virgin Mary, I know. I have the information that I have studied and there is no doubt. I can explain everything. I doubt if anyone would really listen. If the Virgin Mary had wanted people to know more, she would have been intelligent enough to build a special tomb for her body. So, for now I am just stating, she did and does exist, her body has been discovered and that is all I can say right now. The response I will get from this posting is about the same response I would get if I revealed the information completely which explains why I am not posting any further details. I can also say that I never set out to try to find out about the body of the Virgin Mary in any way. I stumbled on the information while trying to find information on other subjects which I did have interest in. This post has been edited by tye: Mar 21 2008, 05:08 PM |
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Mar 21 2008, 05:00 PM
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Then why tell us anything?
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Mar 21 2008, 05:12 PM
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As you can see, from the type of replies you are posting, the only reply I will get is alot of arguments. I am not interested in hearing the arguments from anyone so please do not post them but by all means go ahead since I know that is all that interests you. That is also why there is no way to post the information. People only want to argue their own opinions. They have no interest in the actual discovery. That is why I am not posting it since you ask.
Is there any possible way to go beyond the rediculous arguments? I already know what most people will say in reply to my post- it isn't rocket science. I guess the post will be for informational purposes only. There is no going to the next step and that is where we are in history - NewsFlash. A better reply to your question would be the mystery of the Virgin Mary and Jesus has worked for the majority of people for over 2,000 years, so why change things. The information about the Virgin Mary discovery tells me alot of things. If anyone is seriously interested as I am on certain levels, then they can find the information I found. I am not giving out information that took me alot of serious interest to discover and then have someone else just get handed the information on a silver platter so they can then give me their attitude problems as their thank yous, otherwise I might be interested to say something. I am not saying everyone is like that just enough for me to keep my silence. If people want to believe my post, then the information can tell some people that the Virgin Mary actually existed as described by the bible. As I mentioned, my complete story which would reveal everything might be considered disrespectful even if I wanted to post it. It is a matter of privacy. I can't respond to other people's choices, such as the Virgin Mary, since I do not know if she would want the world to have the information. The other reason I am not posting the complete story. Your question does bring up a good point. If there was something that was important and critical to other people and someone wanted to give out the information, look at what they have to go through. It might be better to just forget the whole thing rather than facing public criticism for their ideas or discoveries. History is full of people who tried to express ideas that were contrary to public views and had their lives altered. How much information will go under the carpet rather than trying to get to a public with pre formed ideas of their own. So people have what they want. Why would they care to discover something new about the Virgin Mary? Things are the way they are. The Virgin Mary discovery is officially being swept under the carpet. It will not help the church or anyone for the Virgin Mary to be viewed as an oddity which is likely what would happen. She has been known is history to be a holy person who was devoted to humanity. So putting the Virgin Mary out in the public so she might be made a spectacle of, doesn't sound like a good idea. People might not know alot about the Virgin Mary. I read something she said which was that she was being held up for public ridicule. If people were to discover the whole truth and actually think about it, I doubt they would ever ridicule the Virgin Mary. People will argue that issue too. This post has been edited by tye: Mar 21 2008, 06:02 PM |
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Mar 21 2008, 07:03 PM
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As you can see, from the type of replies you are posting, the only reply I will get is alot of arguments. I am not interested in hearing the arguments from anyone so please do not post them but by all means go ahead since I know that is all that interests you. That is also why there is no way to post the information. People only want to argue their own opinions. They have no interest in the actual discovery. That is why I am not posting it since you ask. Is there any possible way to go beyond the rediculous arguments? I already know what most people will say in reply to my post- it isn't rocket science. I guess the post will be for informational purposes only. There is no going to the next step and that is where we are in history - NewsFlash. A better reply to your question would be the mystery of the Virgin Mary and Jesus has worked for the majority of people for over 2,000 years, so why change things. The information about the Virgin Mary discovery tells me alot of things. If anyone is seriously interested as I am on certain levels, then they can find the information I found. I am not giving out information that took me alot of serious interest to discover and then have someone else just get handed the information on a silver platter so they can then give me their attitude problems as their thank yous, otherwise I might be interested to say something. I am not saying everyone is like that just enough for me to keep my silence. If people want to believe my post, then the information can tell some people that the Virgin Mary actually existed as described by the bible. As I mentioned, my complete story which would reveal everything might be considered disrespectful even if I wanted to post it. It is a matter of privacy. I can't respond to other people's choices, such as the Virgin Mary, since I do not know if she would want the world to have the information. The other reason I am not posting the complete story. Your question does bring up a good point. If there was something that was important and critical to other people and someone wanted to give out the information, look at what they have to go through. It might be better to just forget the whole thing rather than facing public criticism for their ideas or discoveries. History is full of people who tried to express ideas that were contrary to public views and had their lives altered. How much information will go under the carpet rather than trying to get to a public with pre formed ideas of their own. So people have what they want. Why would they care to discover something new about the Virgin Mary? Things are the way they are. The Virgin Mary discovery is officially being swept under the carpet. It will not help the church or anyone for the Virgin Mary to be viewed as an oddity which is likely what would happen. She has been known is history to be a holy person who was devoted to humanity. So putting the Virgin Mary out in the public so she might be made a spectacle of, doesn't sound like a good idea. I read something she said which was that she was being held up for public ridicule. If people were to discover the whole truth and actually think about it, I doubt they would ever ridicule the Virgin Mary. People will argue that issue too. The main point of my story which I have said should not be completely revealed is that the Virgin Mary exists. Her body has been discovered. I am making my own decision to keep the complete details to myself. If the story can not help people who wonder if the story in the bible about the Virgin Mary and the birth and life of Jesus who was crucified on the cross, then they will need to look for the information on their own. The Virgin Mary said also in Yugoslavia that Christ was being crucified by sins and disbelief. As much as Jesus suffers is how much we in the world will suffer. So you would have to understand that we in the world are also being crucified- no need to argue that. How much we suffer will depend on how much Jesus will suffer. We are witnessing the crucifixion of Jesus. If people want to ignore that, then they can face the consequences. This post has been edited by tye: Mar 21 2008, 07:05 PM |
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Mar 21 2008, 07:09 PM
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Tye... What is it you have discovered? The remains of Mary's body? So what? What is so Earth shaking about finding the bones of a Modern Human? Why are you going on about your discovery? What's up Tye? ~rore -------------------- Peace&Love~rore
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Mar 21 2008, 07:18 PM
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Mar 21 2008, 07:24 PM
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Rorechof, there is no issue. As you mentioned, it is just a discovery and like I said that people want to express their view's and that is all they care about. One way or the other someone will be insulted for what point I don't know. The story, if made public would end up on the back page of a tabloid as an insult so people can get their kicks like pre schoolers. Every one ends up living happily ever after. It's all just a great laugh.
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Mar 21 2008, 07:36 PM
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Tye posts: The story (the discovery of Mary‘s remains), if made public would end up on the back page of a tabloid
==================== I don’t think so Tye. The discovery will end up in scholarly journals, history books etc I’m sure… ~rore -------------------- Peace&Love~rore
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Mar 21 2008, 07:54 PM
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Rorechof, I appreciate your reply about the information being on the backpage of a tabloid. You have a great outlook. I on the other hand disagree. My opinion is that the world is mostly concerned with other interests that have to do with their own lives which is their choice. I could go on with that, except, it is only a repeat of the information. My view is that people would be indifferent no matter what information comes up. There is no point in trying to change that kind of view. Sooner or later we will find out what indifference leads to and then there will be no arguments. Ignore everything and eventually it will all just go away.
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Mar 21 2008, 08:24 PM
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I think I get where you are coming from Tye.
You are observing that most people are ego-centric and care less about the World around them unless what’s happening in the world around them affects their lives. That’s probably the way it has been… ‘forever’. Does this self-centered view need ‘adjustment‘? Probably. The question then is: How does one go about the task of asking others to be more concerned about the World around them? Any ideas? ~rore -------------------- Peace&Love~rore
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Mar 21 2008, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE rorechof: The discovery will end up in scholarly journals, history books etc And not only would the history and theology people jump on such a find to try to either prove and disprove the authenticity... but also every other Tom Dick and Harry will cash in and sell all sorts of mementos to celebrate the occassion... Glow in the dark, strobe lit Virgin Mary's claiming that their Virgin Mary replica is the real authentic one blessed by God and by none other than the good Virgin Mary herself to commemorate this wonderful occassion of the discovery of the body of the Virgin Mary... Arhhh yes... the world will surely celebrate and the news media journalist will be very happy and thus the people will not be permitted to forget, that is, until the next big discovery comes along to take over... Dingo . |
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Mar 21 2008, 09:08 PM
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Dingo posts: Glow in the dark, …Virgin Mary's
================== Ahhh the memories!!!…lmao My Grandfather had a ‘glow in the dark‘ Virgin Mary on the dashboard of his car. It looked real eerie (and a little kool) driving down the road at night with that thing glowing green inside the car!!! ~rore -------------------- Peace&Love~rore
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Mar 21 2008, 09:32 PM
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![]() Flea Bitten Dog ![]() Group: Super Moderators Posts: 6,056 Joined: 17-December 03 From: On a Rock in Australia Member No.: 113 |
QUOTE rorechof: Ahhh the memories!!!€lmao My Grandfather had a €˜glow in the dark€˜ Virgin Mary on the dashboard of his car. It looked real eerie (and a little kool) driving down the road at night with that thing glowing green inside the car!!! lol... The ideas people get to cash in seem to be endless... A glow in the dark Virgin Mary on the dashboard of the car can be nicely complimented by a fluffy, nodding head Jesus sitting at the back window watching out for the cars behind you as you drive... Seriously, it never ceases to amaze me how many people think stuff like that is great and like to waste their money on such paraphanalia... Though I must confess here, I have a black tshirt with Jesus in his Crown of Thorns that someone gave me and I occassionally do wear it down the local watering hole.... offsets my pagan spiritual minature dragonfly nose stud and my fake plastic invisible angel wings very nicely and scares the slobby blokes off.. Mind you, I wasn't even brought up as a Christian but it seems to work for me... Such is reality and the commercial world today... sometimes it's kinda cute though... Dingo . |
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Mar 22 2008, 07:49 AM
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Tye, I understand what you are saying. But for me personally, it would help me in my life to know for sure. So many things in my life are so iffy. What you have discovered is to me, earth shattering and should be yelled from the highest point on earth. But I do understand in wanting to keep it to yourself and I will respet that.I will ask no questions.
-------------------- Whoever said anything was possible, obviouly never tried slamming a revolving door.
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Mar 22 2008, 07:49 AM
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Dingo posts: a fluffy, nodding head Jesus sitting at the back window watching out for the cars behind you as you drive...
===================== Right, the Virgin Mary keeping an eye of what’s in front of me while Jesus covers my rear! Jesus says: “I got your back mate!” Hmmm That may not be such a good idea here in the States, considering how many Christians reside here and how many car accidents the USA sees annually… Like, for instance, this Christian guy named ‘George’ following behind me who had a bad day at the office. George is wondering if he should not have berated his secretary ’Cynthia’ for not performing well that day (while delivering George's morning coffee, she spilt the coffee on some papers of his and George laid into her) and now George is wondering if he should apologize to Cynthia first thing tomorrow when George notices my bobble-head Jesus in front of him. Christian George says, “What do you think Jesus?”. Jesus’ bobble-head is bouncing yes/no all over the place and George edges ever closer to my rear-end to see if Jesus is sending him a divine message annnnd… KABOOM!!! George fails to notice I have applied my brakes and plows right into me!!! One of the last things George remembers about the accident is a bright red glow and the Jesus bobble-head springing off its mount, shooting into the air with what appears to George to be… A frown on its face!!! When George is asked about his version of events surrounding the accident, George replies to the investigator; “Jesus must be really mad at me for yelling at my secretary today…” (Or George may be thinking; “First thing tomorrow I am firing that btch!!!”) The investigator thinks having bobble-headed Jesus’ in the car is dangerous and the investigator is reprimanded for having such un-christian thoughts… The dash mount Glow In The Dark Virgin Mary? She said, "I didn't see that coming!!!" One of these days I just might market the God Ball. It’s a take-off of the Magic 8 Ball which is a novelty item. One asks the God Ball a question and then rotates the ball to reveal a window which pops up various answers to the questions posed like: “Am I going to heaven?” Rotate the ball and an answer of yes; no; maybe; try again; it is not certain; hell is in your future if you do not change your ways etc… I’ll sell it for $9.95 USD and make it small enough to carry in one’s pocket or purse so one may consult with god anytime, anyplace! ~rore This post has been edited by rorechof: Mar 22 2008, 08:04 AM -------------------- Peace&Love~rore
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Mar 22 2008, 07:55 AM
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Rore, sell at least $10.95 .You know how SOME not all , people think the more expensive, he more they got to have it.
-------------------- Whoever said anything was possible, obviouly never tried slamming a revolving door.
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Mar 22 2008, 08:20 AM
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Cricket posts: Rore, sell at least $10.95 .You know how SOME not all , people think the more expensive, he more they got to have it.
=================== You got a point there Cricket and... Holy Jeebus!!! WalMart! They are everywhere!!! I could market the God Ball in China as the Sphere of the I Ching... Or in India, as the Buddha Ball... For Muslims... The Orb of Allah!!! Or in Africa...hmmmm This post has been edited by rorechof: Mar 22 2008, 08:22 AM -------------------- Peace&Love~rore
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Mar 22 2008, 11:58 AM
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Cricket posts: Rore, sell at least $10.95 .You know how SOME not all , people think the more expensive, he more they got to have it. =================== You got a point there Cricket and... Holy Jeebus!!! WalMart! They are everywhere!!! I could market the God Ball in China as the Sphere of the I Ching... Or in India, as the Buddha Ball... For Muslims... The Orb of Allah!!! Or in Africa...hmmmm Youve discovered the body of Mary... youve made a discovery that would rock the world, remake religion, etc..and youve chosen to announce it on an obscure UFO board? Excuse me if I dont hold my breath. |
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Apr 20 2008, 12:39 PM
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What kind of wife stays a virgin? Joseph must have been mighty pissed off.
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Apr 23 2008, 09:44 PM
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Finding the virgin mary is a historical discovery and we understand in today's society that no one would believe it or care, but there are a large amount of people that would praise that descovery and want to worship it. But in anything there will be people that try to disprove it and rubbish it but the true believers will still believe.
and bunny have you ever seen the movie Dogma by Kevin Smith? it puts a whole new spin on what things have been left in and out of the bible. WARNING: some may see this movie as blasphemous but the guy who wrote it is in no way trying to be. he is actually a devote christian. |
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