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Martyn
post Mar 28 2008, 07:16 PM
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I suspect dust, but I wanted to get some other opinions. Yes, that is my finger that swiped the aperture while open. This was taken about a year ago when I attempted to sell a leather jacket on ebay, and found it while browsing my reject folder. I've gotten similar orb-like anomalies on film in this part of my house. Though, the laundry room being on the other side of this door may lead me to believe that dust is in fact the cause. I tend to steer clear of evidence containing orbs due to their lack of credence, but then again, I'm certainly not an expert in analyzing paranormal photographs.


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post Mar 28 2008, 11:04 PM
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In my opinion it is merely a dust particle, close to the camera.
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post Mar 29 2008, 01:17 AM
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Lense Flare mate, thats all...
Which by the way in my opinion accounts for 99.99999999999% of so called orbs smile.gif






Lens flare is the light scattered in lens systems through generally unwanted image formation mechanisms, such as internal reflection and scattering from material inhomogeneities in the lens. These mechanisms differ from the intended image formation mechanism that depends on refraction of the image rays. For good optical systems and most images, flare is a secondary effect that is widely distributed across the image and thus not visible. But when an image includes a very bright light source, flare generated by a bright image region can have enough intensity to become very visible. The light produced by flare mechanisms superimposes broadly across the image, adding light to dark image regions and reducing image contrast. Lenses with large numbers of elements such as zooms tend to exhibit greater lens flare, as they contain multiple surfaces at which unwanted internal scattering occurs.

The spatial distribution of the lens flare typically manifests as several starbursts, rings, or circles in a row across the image or view. Lens flare patterns typically spread widely across the scene and change location with the camera's movement relative to light sources, tracking with the light position and fading as the camera points away from the bright light until it causes no flare at all. The specific spatial distribution of the flare depends on the shape of the aperture of the image formation elements. For example, if the lens has a 6-bladed aperture, the flare may have a hexagonal pattern.

Such internal scattering is also present in the human eye and manifests in an unwanted veiling glare that is apparent when viewing very bright lights or highly reflective (e.g. specular) surfaces.

When a bright light source is shining on the lens but not in its field of view, lens flare appears as a haze that washes out the image and reduces contrast. This can be avoided by shading the lens (the purpose for which lens hoods are designed). In a studio, a gobo or set of barn doors can be attached to the lighting to keep it from shining on the camera. Modern lenses use lens coatings to reduce the amount reflection and minimize flare.

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post Mar 29 2008, 06:47 AM
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QUOTE (Dundee @ Mar 29 2008, 06:17 AM) *
Lense Flare mate, thats all...
Which by the way in my opinion accounts for 99.99999999999% of so called orbs smile.gif






Lens flare is the light scattered in lens systems through generally unwanted image formation mechanisms, such as internal reflection and scattering from material inhomogeneities in the lens. These mechanisms differ from the intended image formation mechanism that depends on refraction of the image rays. For good optical systems and most images, flare is a secondary effect that is widely distributed across the image and thus not visible. But when an image includes a very bright light source, flare generated by a bright image region can have enough intensity to become very visible. The light produced by flare mechanisms superimposes broadly across the image, adding light to dark image regions and reducing image contrast. Lenses with large numbers of elements such as zooms tend to exhibit greater lens flare, as they contain multiple surfaces at which unwanted internal scattering occurs.

The spatial distribution of the lens flare typically manifests as several starbursts, rings, or circles in a row across the image or view. Lens flare patterns typically spread widely across the scene and change location with the camera's movement relative to light sources, tracking with the light position and fading as the camera points away from the bright light until it causes no flare at all. The specific spatial distribution of the flare depends on the shape of the aperture of the image formation elements. For example, if the lens has a 6-bladed aperture, the flare may have a hexagonal pattern.

Such internal scattering is also present in the human eye and manifests in an unwanted veiling glare that is apparent when viewing very bright lights or highly reflective (e.g. specular) surfaces.

When a bright light source is shining on the lens but not in its field of view, lens flare appears as a haze that washes out the image and reduces contrast. This can be avoided by shading the lens (the purpose for which lens hoods are designed). In a studio, a gobo or set of barn doors can be attached to the lighting to keep it from shining on the camera. Modern lenses use lens coatings to reduce the amount reflection and minimize flare.

orbs are only captured on digital technology.as said 99.9% are dust reflecting light.is that you're finger on the left.
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post Mar 29 2008, 07:35 AM
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QUOTE (macdaddy @ Mar 29 2008, 10:47 PM) *
orbs are only captured on digital technology......................

Are they????
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post Mar 29 2008, 10:15 AM
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He said the blurred image to the right was his finger.
It is the dot(orb) on the jacket.
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post Mar 29 2008, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE (Dundee @ Mar 29 2008, 12:35 PM) *
Are they????

i'm reasonably sure.you look at footage using convential equipment,such as slr cameras no orbs.the digital cameras nowadays pick up any thing that reflects light that includes dust.im not saying orbs are all dust as i have seen things caught in these camera's that have left me perplexed.i have seen them in broad daylight with my own eyes.
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post Mar 29 2008, 02:51 PM
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I'm with Dundee on this. It's very rare that I, personally, see real orbs in pictures. I often see them as nothing more complicated or paranormal than lens flare. smile.gif


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post Mar 30 2008, 04:52 PM
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It's definitely the camera/picture.
Sorry. smile.gif
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post Apr 1 2008, 09:01 PM
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Orbs even though many many people think they have something to do with paranormal happenings are for the most part wrong. Orbs captured by camera's make people think "Oh its a ghost because i can't see it in front of me!" automatically. But orbs especially ones caught on camera's are dust, reflection, ect ect. Even if it is not dust it does not mean it has anything to do with paranormal things. Orbs can be energy that has collected into ball form and its just a natural event. In the rare occasion that it is something paranormal you will more then likely see it without the camera and will be very bright sending off a sort of glow. So just because you take a picture see something that you think is a orb it is more then likely not if you did not see it when taking the picture.
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post Apr 2 2008, 08:08 AM
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QUOTE (macdaddy @ Mar 29 2008, 06:47 AM) *
orbs are only captured on digital technology.as said 99.9% are dust reflecting light.is that you're finger on the left.


Yep, that's exactly right - orbs never really started appearing until digital cameras.

Don't worry, Martyn, that's only a dust particle floating around in the air. A lot of the times dust will appear to be glowing - this is the result of the flash of the camera reflecting off pieces of dust and thus giving them the look of having light to them.

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post May 1 2008, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE (macdaddy @ Mar 29 2008, 11:47 AM) *
orbs are only captured on digital technology.as said 99.9% are dust reflecting light.is that you're finger on the left.



Man, where do you get some of your ideas, Macdaddy? The last two posts that I have looked at, you have posted some pretty wild and unproven claims. How does this account for the numerous photos all over the internet, that were taken from regular cameras, and show orbs. I suppose these were all just dust particles? Digital has nothing to do with it, man.

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post May 1 2008, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE (Grey Martian @ Apr 2 2008, 01:08 PM) *
Yep, that's exactly right - orbs never really started appearing until digital cameras.

Don't worry, Martyn, that's only a dust particle floating around in the air. A lot of the times dust will appear to be glowing - this is the result of the flash of the camera reflecting off pieces of dust and thus giving them the look of having light to them.


Grey Martian, I will ask you the same thing I asked Macdaddy... do you have any proof that orbs only started to show up after the introduction of the digital camera? What about the pictures that show orbs that were taken from regular cameras, are the orbs really just dust particles?
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post May 14 2008, 03:57 AM
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Hanging a jacket on a ladder next to a door is known to upset spirits.
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post May 14 2008, 08:09 AM
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QUOTE (AngryAbductee @ May 14 2008, 08:57 AM) *
Hanging a jacket on a ladder next to a door is known to upset spirits.


Common misconception.


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