Okay this might be a bit controversial... lol

What do yous think of recreational drug use / what drugs do you enjoy taking ?

I go for the depressants, weed all the way and tha occasitional pill or 2.
Stimulants are always good for party time though

i used to smoke weed but i don't do any drugs anymore or drink any alcohol. I believe if your using drugs for recreation you need to find a new way to entertain your self.

I just see it as a term to differentiate from medicinal drug use.

if you ain't hurting no one i don't see any problem.i smoke,but don't drink.i don't need to get out of my head ,just to relax and settle my active mind.

Yeah i know what your saying man, smoking helps the mind alot.

All I want to say is that the drug called "alcohol" is by far the worst one. It is responsible for more deaths and health issues than all other drugs combined.

its the abuse of these things that causes problems.

I agree, so long as you include dependance in with abuse.

yes, but isn't the dependence a result of the abuse.

I am on the medical marijuana program from the government for chronic pain. I suffer from severe pain that is crippling and hinders my life completely and so if I don't use it I can't live basically. After using it I have realized that marijuana is the most gentle drug on the planet and that it should not be illegal. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it and it is far safer than using alcohol. I do not smoke cigarettes or drink by the way but I believe in anyone's right to do what they wish to do, it's their body. But I do believe marijuana is safer. I was taking narcotic opiates for so long that made me sicker and sicker, after taking marijuana for my medicine...I never once got sick from it and if I do build up a tolerance for it, it's nothing for me to stop using it for a week at a time to build up a tolerance for it again so as not to suffer withdrawl symptoms like I did on prescription pills. I have never even been dependant on marijuana, I simply use it for my pain, period. I believe I have an incredible amount of willpower. Maybe it is the pain that gives me willpower I don't know, or maybe I am just better at it than some people, I just see it as the safest drug on the planet. In my opinion.



This post has been edited by sleepingladybug: May 12 2008, 07:39 AM

but most use of it is for recreational use,not medical.is it ok to use it if a teenager sits on his ass all day smoking weed and playing video games,becuase he has no motivation,or he's too stoned to communicate.there is a thin line between recreation and dependancy.your reason is medical,you have to take it for your condition and you don't have to go to a crack house to get it.

some folk can only have a good time when they have taken somthing,that is sad.

There is no such thing and its not even remotely synonymous with medicinal use. Getting high to have a good time is not the same thing as taking a pill or smoking marijuana to relieve pain, anxiety or depression. This people are genuinely ill and the 'recreational' users who abuse the drug's properties to 'have a good time' make it difficult for those people to get the drugs that they need for relief. The worse of this lot are those who abuse narcotics. Doctors are reluctant to prescribe it to needy patients because the potential for abuse and illicit sale because of the addicts who use it for getting high. The truly sick people are then forced to buy the drugs illicitly. I know many sick people who have had their medication stolen and snorted up some idiot's nose or resold on the street to addicts who can't buy food for their kids but they can spend $20 on a pill while, of course, hard working people are providing the food stamps to feed their kids with. Many patients will secret away a portion of their pain medication for this very reason. So I've had to arrest some who have done so for this reason and put them through the humiliation and cost (going to jail costs money and its hardest on those who are poor) because its a crime to carry a narcotic not in its proper container. And all because the addicts have forced the government to make this a crime to try to curtail illicit use and sale! Families suffer from illicit use and the hardest hit are the children. Children are neglected and abused and removed from their homes and grow up troubled themselves...but, hey, mommy and daddy get high so why not, eh? Its party time!

Sorry, Mk2, but I see a reality far different from your's. You knew this thread would be controversial and what more controversial an opinion can you expect than from a cop who sees the harsh reality of drug abuse? Those who see 'recreational drug use' as harmless are either grossly mistaken or lack a social conscience. Either way..there's nothing good that can come of it...

Just don't forget that if you smoke tabacco or drink alcohol, you are a drug user. In fact, you are putting enormous strain on the taxpayer with your cancer, asthma, drink driving, drunken violence, liver disease, kidney disease, and other health problems that stem from the use of these drugs. More than all other drugs combined.

That's right. Your shit stinks, too.

Ever seen a child removed from his parents because daddy was in the bathroom smoking a cigarette? No? How about a house blowing sky high because someone fixed a mixed drink? Fucking get real Sen. All shit stinks but not all shit is the same in every respect. Don't compare apples to oranges. Every drug has its own unique negative consequences and impact on society. I don't have cancer, asthma, kidney disease, liver disease, other health problems and I don't drink and drive or engage in drunken violence...so point your finger somewhere else. What...do you want me to say that using drugs is cool? Do you want me to praise it? Glorify it with a cute little smiley? Well, hell yeah, fuck the consequences...after all people smoke tobacco...so fire up the crack pipe! Crush those tabs and cut us a line! Where's my spoon? Its party time! Jesus..

Does Nutmeg count? =)
Seriously, does it?

I see nothing wrong with drinking if people drink responsibly. I don't drink and drive. I don't get wasted. Yes, drinking can change my personality: I find myself a bit more patient when I've had a drink or two. Yes, alcohol and nicotine are drugs, but I don't think they're in the same category as narcotics: though nicotine is has quite a hook.



That's a bit extreme.
Not everybody does those things, and those things aren't the biggest drain on the health care system. In America, that place of honor belongs now to obesity. Shall we outlaw Big Macs for our own good?

outlaw big macs by all means,just leave my double cheeseburger alone.its about personal discipline,some people know how to treat things responsibly, others don't care.amy winehouse and pete doherty are complete wasters,amy can sing,pete is crap,he's had more hits of smack that hits in the charts.the irrresponsible cretins that run the media,perpetuate the myth of glamour around drugs.if they wree given no publicity while crucifying there bodies,how soon would they clean up their act.

i have no objection to someone having a few beers on evening with friends,or a couple of spliffs,or smoking fags.its when it becomes a lifestyle.

Hahaha. Double-cheeseburger's my favorite too. It's a great post, Macdaddy. I totally agree:


Truer words have never been spoken.


That is absolutely true.

After three years of not smoking, I had a weak moment and started again last summer. Been making stupid excuses not to completely give it up. The truth is though, I'm almost off the hook again: I stopped enjoying it. I still feel the need for the nicotine, but the taste just turns me off completely. I don't smoke every day and don't have more than 2 or 3 in a day (gave it up for two weeks a couple weeks back as well). Still, I don't mind if people smoke (though I wish that on the train platforms they'd do it in the designated areas). Still: guess it's time to bite the bullet and give it up. No sense wasting more money on something that makes my mouth feel like an ashtray.

the whole topic of recreational drug use is vast, and i cant fit everything i have to say on the matter in one reply,
but, since being at uni, i have smoked weed, both in joints and in bongs, not recently though, i'm doing any til after summer, and after my exams etc, and i would say it is harmless, however, there is a but, only if you are a certain minded person. like, for me, weed is all i will do, my freind, whos the same, tried ecstasy, and the 2 people who introduced me to weed, now do ecstasy and are thinking of doing coke. it has opened my eyes, that it really is a gateway drug, i know people say, "maybe for some but not for me", that is naive, it is a gateway drug, i have witnessed that first hand, however, i think, weed, by itself is relative harmless if done in moderation, like anything, lets face it, cheesburgers can cause major health problems if done to excess, like weed
like most of my posts, im not really saying anything, not making a point, just giving people material and information to debate on with me

Two things I want to say about weed. #1, smoking pot does not make people want to do harder drugs. Okay, then, why do so many scientists say that? Because two events occur sequentially in time, and they've drawn a conclusion that they're directly related, when they're not. To illustrate, here's a little story.

Once upon a time, there was a wooden fence with a hole in it. On one side of the fence was a man, looking through the hole. On the other side was a donkey, walking in a circle in front of the hole. The man looking through the hole saw the donkey: the nose, the head, the body the tail - the nose, the head, the body, the tail. After a short time, he stood back and yelled: "Eureka! I've got it! The nose causes the tail!"

The same research attitude gives us the theory that pot causes people to try harder drugs. No. Here's the real story. Somebody feels adventurous. They're looking for new experiences, looking to cross boundaries. They start with pot, but soon get restless for something new. It's not that pot leads to harder drugs, it's that people LOOKING for new experiences may start with pot before going on to more dangerous things in the same way that a mountain climber looking for adventure generally starts with the hill behind his house before decided to tackle Everest.

#2: I had a friend in college who was brilliant. He was creative, and he was a deep thinker: very philosophical. He started smoking pot: and he got stupid. Forget all that BS about how it expands your mind. NO. Pot doesn't expand your mind, it just makes you stupid enough to think your mundane thoughts are really far out.

In addition: did you know that, biologically, marijuana smoke is much worse for the lungs than tobacco? However, it's not addictive, and cigarettes rate up there caffeine and heroine.