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 Apr 6 2008, 03:36 PM
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Jonathan Leake, Science Editor
April 6, 2008 QUOTE THE internet could soon be made obsolete. The scientists who pioneered it have now built a lightning-fast replacement capable of downloading entire feature films within seconds. At speeds about 10,000 times faster than a typical broadband connection, “the grid” will be able to send the entire Rolling Stones back catalogue from Britain to Japan in less than two seconds. The latest spin-off from Cern, the particle physics centre that created the web, the grid could also provide the kind of power needed to transmit holographic images; allow instant online gaming with hundreds of thousands of players; and offer high-definition video telephony for the price of a local call. David Britton, professor of physics at Glasgow University and a leading figure in the grid project, believes grid technologies could “revolutionise” society. “With this kind of computing power, future generations will have the ability to collaborate and communicate in ways older people like me cannot even imagine,” he said. The power of the grid will become apparent this summer after what scientists at Cern have termed their “red button” day - the switching-on of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), the new particle accelerator built to probe the origin of the universe. The grid will be activated at the same time to capture the data it generates. Cern, based near Geneva, started the grid computing project seven years ago when researchers realised the LHC would generate annual data equivalent to 56m CDs - enough to make a stack 40 miles high. This meant that scientists at Cern - where Sir Tim Berners-Lee invented the web in 1989 - would no longer be able to use his creation for fear of causing a global collapse. This is because the internet has evolved by linking together a hotchpotch of cables and routing equipment, much of which was originally designed for telephone calls and therefore lacks the capacity for high-speed data transmission. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/s...icle3689881.ece |
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Apr 6 2008, 06:49 PM
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I hope this is available soon.
My computer isn't much to speak of when it comes to speed. |
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Apr 7 2008, 03:03 AM
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QUOTE (SOUL-DRIFTER @ Apr 7 2008, 01:39 AM)  I hope this is available soon. My computer isn't much to speak of when it comes to speed. I wouldn't hold your breath mate.... 
-------------------- Nathanial "a_skeptic" Meade 1979-2007 RIP |
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Apr 7 2008, 04:54 AM
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Come on...a little blue in the face can't hurt...can it?
GASP!...GASP!!  Well, maybe with a little luck my local phone company will get the fiber optics in my area and I can finally leave satellite and come down to Earth...in price I pay for high speed internet. 
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Apr 7 2008, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE (SOUL-DRIFTER @ Apr 7 2008, 11:44 AM) Come on...a little blue in the face can't hurt...can it? GASP!...GASP!! Well, maybe with a little luck my local phone company will get the fiber optics in my area and I can finally leave satellite and come down to Earth...in price I pay for high speed internet. Yeah, but satellite sounds cooler... It will be years before everyone can attain really good speed, and not have to pay the earth for it that is...lol -------------------- Nathanial "a_skeptic" Meade 1979-2007 RIP |
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Apr 7 2008, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE (Fen Star @ Apr 7 2008, 03:46 PM) Yeah, but satellite sounds cooler... It will be years before everyone can attain really good speed, and not have to pay the earth for it that is...lol its part of natural progression.nothing stays the same for long.i think cables will be used for a long time yet,as there is only some advantages for satellittes.but it would mean a massive overhual of the communications structure for this to work. i heard a saying once,not sure by who,that if god made somthing that good,he would have kept it to himself.this reflects the authorities of all countries. |
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Apr 7 2008, 10:38 AM
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A geostationary satellite is 22,240 miles above the ground. Say that two computers were physically seperated at ten yards' distance, then the minimum latency that is physically possible when communicating via satellite is greater than 0.24 seconds, limited by the speed of light, which is quite a long delay. However, this minimum latency in practice will always be much greater than that. What's more, this minimum time is added to all latencies. Although the data rate can be high once connection is established, so for downloading large files it will be alright. For browsing web pages it must be irritating. The only advantage to satellite communication is to remote areas where there are no suitable cables present.
According to the article, they are doing nothing more revolutionary than making sure that there are no outdated components along the data path constraining the data rate and latency, i.e. they have created a wholly modern network at high cost. It's quite amusing how much data they expect to generate for themselves, probably when they could get by with much less, as indeed they would have had to have done if this LHC project went online, say, ten years ago. So in spite of this "development", we non-particle physicists will continue to see the same incremental changes we have seen before. |
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Apr 7 2008, 02:30 PM
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With this hi speed DLC(downloable content) is going to be a reality and BlueRay and all other format are going to be obsolets.
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Apr 17 2008, 03:53 PM
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I'll probably be left out of the loop seeing as i live in the country and am on dial up. /wrist
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Apr 17 2008, 09:29 PM
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I think we've got something like that...instead of 10 we've got 20...supposed to be twice as fast as normal cable broadband...I haven't subscribed to it yet though
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Apr 18 2008, 04:11 AM
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I'm on 20Mbps cable at the moment. I am promised an upgrade to 50 at some point in the near future. In Hong Kong they have had a 1Gbps service for a few years already, or fifty times what I've got.
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Apr 18 2008, 04:36 AM
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That's pretty fast. Its costly here, though, I think I can make do with what I got for a while. Once I upgrade, I know I won't want to slow down any.
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Jul 2 2008, 07:48 PM
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On the day I get high speed this'll happen I bet.
I can see it now. On December 21st, 2012, the entire internet freezes for one minute for a massive download to this. Then everyone has to get new internet and the world's forms of communications collapse... It's what the Mayans predicted, man! |
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Jul 8 2008, 08:00 AM
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QUOTE (MGK @ Apr 17 2008, 04:53 PM) I'll probably be left out of the loop seeing as i live in the country and am on dial up. /wrist Sign up for satellite internet. You get the high speed, it just costs more. The equipment can cost to $300 or more too. If you have the budget for it, it works good. Works for me. |
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