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post Apr 10 2008, 09:44 AM
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why some people disbelieve 2012?

2012 have many source and theories that links together..... crops signs encoded 2012, maya predicted 2012, global warming is hearing in this period, war is going on, chinese future telling game tells 2012(forgot the name), computer generate number 2012, planet x is coming 2012 ect... everything just in this period.... and close to 2012..... everything is there to convince.... but still why some disbelieve? why is it make people think that it is a hoax?

2000.... back there i didnt even care much and didnt study about it. did anyone predicted 2000? did anything tells 2000 like the source and people that tells 2012? 2012 everything seems to link together.... but what about 2000? did every source match each other? or just that it is 2000 with three zero's and people just paranoid and assume?

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post Apr 10 2008, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE (HiddenUFO @ Apr 10 2008, 03:44 PM) *
why some people disbelieve 2012?

2012 have many source and theories that links together..... crops signs encoded 2012, maya predicted 2012, global warming is hearing in this period, war is going on, chinese future telling game tells 2012(forgot the name), computer generate number 2012, planet x is coming 2012 ect... everything just in this period.... and close to 2012..... everything is there to convince.... but still why some disbelieve? why is it make people think that it is a hoax?

2000.... back there i didnt even care much and didnt study about it. did anyone predicted 2000? did anything tells 2000 like the source and people that tells 2012? 2012 everything seems to link together.... but what about 2000? did every source match each other? or just that it is 2000 with three zero's and people just paranoid and assume?


People have been predicting the end of the world for years, i bet if you look it has been predicted thousands of times over the centurys, and i bet if you look there are people predicting the world will end after 2012...wink.gif


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post Apr 11 2008, 02:44 AM
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it may be true that end of mankind prediction have been predicted so many times but... have it been predicted like 2012? with several source that link together? and seeing changes and hearing changes? 2012 prediction have so many stuff that back it up. what kind of prediction was 2000? and other years? 2012 prediction have so many proof and evidence and source which leads to same thing....

did 2000 and others prediction have the same source and clues like 2012 does?
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post Apr 11 2008, 03:46 AM
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QUOTE (HiddenUFO @ Apr 11 2008, 08:44 AM) *
did 2000 and others prediction have the same source and clues like 2012 does?


Most likely. And they are loose theories and ideas at best.


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QUOTE (HiddenUFO @ Apr 11 2008, 08:44 AM) *
it may be true that end of mankind prediction have been predicted so many times but... have it been predicted like 2012? with several source that link together? and seeing changes and hearing changes? 2012 prediction have so many stuff that back it up. what kind of prediction was 2000? and other years? 2012 prediction have so many proof and evidence and source which leads to same thing....

did 2000 and others prediction have the same source and clues like 2012 does?


Hhere is hardly Proof or evidence of anything happening in 2012 more like wild speculation and false prophecys...wink.gif


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QUOTE (HiddenUFO @ Apr 10 2008, 02:44 PM) *
why some people disbelieve 2012?

2012 have many source and theories that links together..... crops signs encoded 2012, maya predicted 2012, global warming is hearing in this period, war is going on, chinese future telling game tells 2012(forgot the name), computer generate number 2012, planet x is coming 2012 ect... everything just in this period.... and close to 2012..... everything is there to convince.... but still why some disbelieve? why is it make people think that it is a hoax?

2000.... back there i didnt even care much and didnt study about it. did anyone predicted 2000? did anything tells 2000 like the source and people that tells 2012? 2012 everything seems to link together.... but what about 2000? did every source match each other? or just that it is 2000 with three zero's and people just paranoid and assume?


Its not a "hoax".. its ..nothing. If the "chinese future telling game" were predicting an end of the world for 2012.. I dont suppose we would see China acting as it does now.. I think we would see 1.3 billion Chinese getting ready for the end of the world. Or a sizable portion of them. But we dont.

A computer generated the number 2012? What does that even mean?

Climate change is occuring, but 2012 has no particular significence.

The Mayans predicted nothing but the end of the calender for 2012.

And if there were a planet X coming 2012 it would already be visible..

People dont believe it because..there is nothing to believe. And I bet..I would make serious bets..that in your heart of hearts most "believers" dont either. I would wager that very very few of the 2012 "believers" start selling of their possesions or what have you in 2011.
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post Apr 11 2008, 06:42 AM
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Remember the story of 'Chicken Little'?

There is too many alarmists.
I think people just enjoy the drama it can cause when they believe and spread such predictions.
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post Apr 11 2008, 06:49 AM
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QUOTE (SOUL-DRIFTER @ Apr 11 2008, 12:42 PM) *
Remember the story of 'Chicken Little'?

There is too many alarmists.
I think people just enjoy the drama it can cause when they believe and spread such predictions.

i'm fine with what other people believe,and evry one has an opinion,but these 'the end is near' scenario's have been running as long as religion,and is somewhat related.the doomsday clock is what you should be looking at.if we come to an end it will come from within.ie=nutters with nukes.
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post Apr 11 2008, 10:09 AM
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There was a close alignment of five planets on May 5, 2000 which was supposed to cause devestation on earth. John Gribbin, an English astrophysicist and popular science writer, claimed that his invented Jupiter Effect (as he titled a popular book on the subject) would cause devestation (the destruction of California, to be specific) on March 10, 1982 when several planets all lay within the same quadrant of the solar system, as looking down on the approximate plane of planetary orbits. Needless to say, that did not happen either.
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post Apr 11 2008, 03:29 PM
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You hypothesizes that is the solar activity, to produce the variations and the irregular disappearance of the terrestrial magnetism.
These phenomenons could make to presage a new move of the magnetic poles, as already happened in the past of our planet.
Here it speaks of science, not of mythologies.....


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post Apr 12 2008, 08:22 AM
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Listen, dude, I think the end of the world is a second from the end of this sentance. Oops, I was wrong. We have NO idea when it'll happen, it could happen before i'm done writing this post. So just chill, and when it does happen, be prepared for what you might see.


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post Apr 15 2008, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE (Andrew @ Apr 11 2008, 10:09 AM) *
There was a close alignment of five planets on May 5, 2000 which was supposed to cause devestation on earth. John Gribbin, an English astrophysicist and popular science writer, claimed that his invented Jupiter Effect (as he titled a popular book on the subject) would cause devestation (the destruction of California, to be specific) on March 10, 1982 when several planets all lay within the same quadrant of the solar system, as looking down on the approximate plane of planetary orbits. Needless to say, that did not happen either.

I recall that one!

Do you remember the book ' We Are The Earthquake Generation'?
That was another one.
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post May 4 2008, 07:14 PM
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did 2000 and others prediction have the same source and clues like 2012 does?

no I don't think that the 2000 predictions were the same clues or source as the 2012. And yes there are many Cultures all over the World that predict a "big change" in 2012. Not the END.
I have said before, I believe its going to be an "awaking" for the world. Wake up and see there is life on other planets, imagine what that would cause if there was proof in front of our face! Everyone would panic, the government with there fn war heads and so on. Then war with religion so on. I have written awhile ago on this prediction, it got erased. Me myself thinks it will be a wonderful thing. And ever since we have been here on Earth, we have always been "warned" about our future.
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post May 5 2008, 11:01 AM
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Hmm, it all sounds like that movie 23. I suppose I can pick any random number and use mathematics to prove that that particular number is important. The whole end of the world thing has been predicted for many different dates and by many different people. Remember, there was a mass suicide all over Europe for 31 DEC 0999 at or near midnight b/c the Pope decided that the end of the world was to come 01 JAN 1000.

If the world ends I am pretty sure no one will see it coming at all so to speak. Yes, if the Sun starts acting up there may be a good chance scientists could mathematically predict how much time we have left, but when the sun starts acting up no one can say. If a meteor was coming, there would be a good chance scientists could give a great estimation how much time would be left as soon as it is spotted, but who knows when it would be spotted?

Now, most people do not want to see the world to end. But, if you truly believe the world's going to end, what do you do? Do you quit your job and live on the street? Do you work harder to keep your mind off of it? Do you go on more vacations? So, what happens when 2012 comes and goes and nothing happens? Even if 2012 is the end, what does it matter if you know before hand? Will it make you a better person? Do we go to looting and destruction? Do we all hold hands and sing? What's the point?

No one knows when the end is coming, if it ever comes. If they say they do, there's a great chance the person is a liar or a kook. I say we should start a thread asking the 2012 believers what they are doing to prepare for the end. I want to know. I am curious.


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post May 10 2008, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE (HiddenUFO @ Apr 10 2008, 09:44 AM) *
why some people disbelieve 2012?

2012 have many source and theories that links together..... crops signs encoded 2012, maya predicted 2012, global warming is hearing in this period, war is going on, chinese future telling game tells 2012(forgot the name), computer generate number 2012, planet x is coming 2012 ect... everything just in this period.... and close to 2012..... everything is there to convince.... but still why some disbelieve? why is it make people think that it is a hoax?

2000.... back there i didnt even care much and didnt study about it. did anyone predicted 2000? did anything tells 2000 like the source and people that tells 2012? 2012 everything seems to link together.... but what about 2000? did every source match each other? or just that it is 2000 with three zero's and people just paranoid and assume?



everything you said about 2012 is true,,Mayas were great at math and astrology...they predicted the solar eclipse in Mexiko...and they predicted this in 2012(because it has been confirmed)

but i dont see where do you get the end of the world? mayas never believed that ,,2012 for them was the start of a new period on earth,humans are going into a new time,a new dimension ..maybe its the coming of anti christ or something like that,but end of the world? no..i dont think so
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