hi every one :

the truth behind these things (ufos) are just very simple , there just DEMONS In Alien Clothing !

Thanks for clearing that up. Guess we can close the site down now and all get ourselves into church. sigh.

Funny how the etymology of 'demon' originates with 'guardian'.

oohh why didnt i think of that


but wait a minute
maybe the demons are Aliens in demons Clothing

This post has been edited by The Boxer: Apr 19 2008, 05:45 AM

Yes but are you sure their not Aliens in Demons clothes.....

I am so glad some one has all the answers!

Hi umindx
funnily enough a cousin of mine who is very religious said exactly the same thing last year to me and he wasn't being funny.
I thought he was talking a load of old codswallop but I didn't argue with him as I though he may have had inside knowledge.
Where did you get yours from?
This particular cousin thinks I am playing with fire and would love to convert me but he's not had any look so far.But perhaps I had better sit on the fence and leave my options open .LOL

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You know, i have been watching a conspiracy theory which suggest that alien are demons. I mostly watch it for entertainment tho, it is mostly bullshit.

I've heard this theory from overly-zealous religious people before and... no. I have my own definitions of "demons" (either evil spirits or evil souls that create evil people-- i.e. child molesters, serial killers, ect.) so I could never buy into the idea of them having their own planets and form of technological intelligence.

evidence has showed ufos mistaken as angels & demons.

This probably explains why the majority of aliens are perverts ... peeking in windows, kidnapping people, PROBING them.

I really don't get it. Why would people think aliens are angels and demons and not the other way around?

Surely it makes more sense that the ancients called them angel, demons and so forth because they did not understand what they where. So now that the alien phenomenon is here, why think that they are demons instead of thinking that they are just another life form that is more advanced then us?

Faith destroys all logic.

He was being stupid and being provocative. Faith destroys all logic? Well, too bad there is no logic in that! How does faith destroy logic? Faith pretty much created logic, okay? They only conflict when you take ur definition, and then decide it's the right definition. Does faith destroy 1 + 1 = 2? Oh yea, Jesus really said it equaled three....... Stop playa hatin

Faith creating logic?! oh please!

Noah managed to get a pair of every single animal on the planet on 1 singe boat... All logic says that can't be done. Tell that to the people who believes it.

Most of my family is christian, so i have had plenty of discussions about religion with them. And when they hear arguments that actually makes sense which, they usually ignore it, or say the famus words "god works n mysterious ways" Religous people rely on pure faith, because all logic argues against their belief.

As do non-religious people. One can have faith in many things, including logic! To know something as true or false is to know it in the past tense. All knowledge that can be known to the human mind carries a potentiality of either true or false in the present tense. Therefore, until a thing is known (to possess knowledge of it, with 'knowledge' being a true or false statement pertaining to it) in the past tense, one can only regard it with a measure of belief in its truth or falsehood, hence, one can only have faith that it is either true or false. For example, I, being non-religious (as if such were a condition for intelligence ), believe that the earth circles the sun. Yet, I can only say that I have knowledge of the earth having circled the sun up until this present moment. I have no knowledge that, at this precise present moment or any moment in the future, that the earth is, in fact, circling the sun. For, in this precise present moment, or any in the future, it may well not circle the sun and my belief, then, is rendered false. Probability implies that it has not nor will cease its revolutions but, then, probability is not fact, is it? Its potentiality. And belief in it is faith, not knowledge!

And so it is with logic. Logic is either deductive reasoning or inductive reasoning. Deductive reasoning provides absolute proof of the conclusion, however, one must begin with premises assumed to be true. It follows, then, that if the premises are true then the conclusion in necessarily true. Pretty cool, huh? Just remember that the foundation, the premises, are accepted as true on faith!

Likewise with inductive reasoning, it follows that if the premises are true then the conclusion is probably true. Thus, there is even a lesser degree of certainty. Yet, all is accepted on faith.

Point being, one should not be so quick to begrudge a person, or insult them because of, their faith on lack of certainty alone.

Your right. You (possibly for all the wrong reasons, lol) have stated a fact. If you correctly trace religious ideas back you will find out why. However "demons" are not all evil. It was biased prejudice that made them all evil and finally arrived at it's current form.

Well said. Both sides have their faults. Both are guilty, really, of the same things they accuse the other of. Science is in dominance right now but it will lose it's hold for all the reasons religion is put down now. Unkept promises and false facts. 1000 years ago the smartest people on Earth were scientific people trained at religious institutions that demanded facts and real data. These people were not stupid and are THE reason Christianity is as big as it is today. They founded some of the first scientific colleges and would turn over in their graves if they knew what belittling goes on in colleges of religion.

The fields of facts and real observations is now seen as independent form religion. I personally can't see how religion could function without a fact minded person around demanding hard evidence. However I am not biased in favor of religion or science. I just see that religion has nincompoops that say pure BS on their behalf and thus find the need to stickup for them a little too often. It's sicking what passes for religion. One can underestimate the gap between knowing something instinctively and knowing it well enough to name the facts about it.

But many a religious zealot pointed out the flaws of science back when religion had sway and hard evidence. Now it sways in scientific favor and the same accusations fly. I wish people could see the stupidity and irony of it all. Science IS A FAITH too. They are both over stepping themselves with promises of answers to life's questions while at the same time they ignore much of reality due to biased views. This swinging back and forth form religion to science and back to religion has gone on for a very very long time.

Science has done well and I am quite proud of what they have been able to do. Religion has lost it's facts and real knowledge and is a disgrace right now. All this faith has gotten to these people's heads and they have lost sight of what religion is to the point that they can not name the laws it is made up of that are just as factual as any law of science. These laws do exist and if used correctly, are so solid and powerful that they can bend time and space to near breaking point. Religion is not lacking in real and factual laws that are wholy demonstrable. But not one person I talked to the last time I was in a church had any idea what they were.

Science at this time at least has some sound laws and can dependably demonstrate them. That is an accomplishment that should not be overlooked nor belittled.

And in noah's time do you think there that many animals? God does work his wonders- where do you think the first piece of matter came from? Nothing? And there is a reason it's called Theologic

your logic contradicts it, not the logic that is actually defined as logic.

Hell yes i do!

There are over 1 million species of animals today, you really think there where significantly less in ancient times?

You just proved my point in the previous thread.