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post Apr 17 2004, 05:35 AM
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If Jesus knew what he was here to do and did so willingly....then surely he committed suicide? So why is suicide a sin?


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post Apr 17 2004, 05:40 AM
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Well, God did make him do it. You try telling your dad you don't want to do something, and he'll get pissed. And if your dad was an omnipresent god, and maker of the universe, you wouldn't want to upset him. So rather, I think that God killed Jesus.
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post Apr 17 2004, 06:34 AM
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So then that makes God if she exists a murderer!

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post Apr 17 2004, 06:36 AM
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well then that makes the whole world god christ thing stupid doesn't it....

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post Apr 17 2004, 07:16 AM
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So then that makes God if she exists a murderer!

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That it would. Nice twist concserning the sex of God. I don't think a God would be any. God would be it.
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post Apr 17 2004, 07:36 AM
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So then that makes God if she exists a murderer!


Does god not kill us all anyway.... we all eventually die....

I heard god ain't a she or a he... but a 700 foot tall red jelly bean... I read that written on the wall in a public toilet in the city a few years...

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post Apr 17 2004, 07:46 AM
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He survived the crucification and escaped to Kashmir.
Maybe he travelled even to Japan.
As the Muslims says, he did not die at the cross.
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post Apr 17 2004, 07:47 AM
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I never thought about it that way actually (Christian God Dingo sorry)....Jesus either committed suicide or he really was murdered by his father! God is a murderer!!!

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post Apr 17 2004, 07:52 AM
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Well if Jesus commited suicide, the people who go to th electric chair, firing squad and lealthal injection are all commiting suicide by cooperating. In theory of course.
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post Apr 17 2004, 07:55 AM
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No not really because Jesus was given the chance in front of Pilate to walk away if he would only say the right things!

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post Apr 17 2004, 08:11 AM
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I never thought about it that way actually (Christian God Dingo sorry)....Jesus either committed suicide or he really was murdered by his father! God is a murderer!!!


Yeah... yeah... yeah.... I know... I know..... biggrin.gif

Jesus did not commit suicide nor was her murdered... He simply made sure he was in the right place at the right time to fulfil the destiny be believed was meant for him... That doesn't mean he committed suicide for he did not take his own life.... nor does it mean god murdered him, for god gave him free choice...

Frig... I forgot... It just all fell plop outta my head... But after he rose again... what happened?

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post Apr 17 2004, 08:13 AM
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We were all free to commit suicide or be murdered!

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post Apr 17 2004, 08:35 AM
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Hi there Dingo...I like the jelly bean theory...
Zeakio...how can they resist. They have no choice but to co-operate...just following their destinies to kill and be punished????....like the rest of us? Of course its only in the repressed societies that there is still a death penalty. Maybe the leaders think that they are God then they can make the desicion ..who lives who dies... So many questions coming up.......
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post Apr 17 2004, 09:29 PM
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Collaboration in unison...from before the founding of the earth...father and son intimacy...LOVE...the language of the GODS where there is no interpreter the language is just the clashing sounds of symbols...Understand! Seeking for the knowledge of ..the VERY knowledge of GOD means you may actually find it...and when you do...will you be blinded like Saul...who became Paul?????when will you have your eyesight back?...when did Saul become Paul?
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post Apr 18 2004, 02:46 AM
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On the road to Damascus but then most of us are stuck at our PC's in downtown wherever. And anyone who sees blinding light from this forum tends to think UFO not "Oh it's the big guy sending me a message".

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post Apr 18 2004, 02:51 AM
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Zeakio...how can they resist.


They can put up a fight, drop to the ground and refuse to co-operate. Ofcourse they will be punished, but the fact is they can resist.
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post Apr 18 2004, 03:12 AM
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Frig... I forgot... It just all fell plop outta my head... But after he rose again... what happened?


Come on all you knowledgeable bible blokes... tell me what happened... I still can't remember... And this is the Religous Forum so you can go for it freely... But keep it simple... not too much waffling and complicated rambling coz I'll only get lost and then might not be able to find myself again...

Stiff bikkies... I just replied to myself as it is....

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post Apr 18 2004, 04:51 AM
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Can I summarise the New Testament for you then Dingo!

Mary gives birth to a kid without being screwed. God says he did it.

Kid grows up but he knows his dad is 'the man with the plan'

Plan is...."Sorry son but you gotta die to save the human race"

Kid says "Oh okay then" and gets into enough trouble to ensure that he gets crucified.

I guess it was was like one of those voluntary suicides you can get in Swizerland...like legalised Euthanasia. Pity they had to crucify him though...that was painful...but electric chairs were in short supply.

Any way you look at it ....his Dad either killed him...or he committed suicide!

Any clearer Dingo?

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Any clearer Dingo?


Nope... biggrin.gif ...That part I remember... It's what happened after Jesus came back from the 'dead' is what I want to know... You know, how he rose again on the Sunday wasn't it?

Like where did he go when he arose again? Like what happened after Easter? Was he still about or was he reburied? Or what? Didn't he come back to life after he was crucified?

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post Apr 18 2004, 06:03 AM
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Acording to Kevin he was seen in Kashmir then possibly in Japan!
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