in a world with so many faiths,it makes me wonder, if god is real,which one is the real deal? they can't all be......!

i personally think religion is a load of bull@#$%.Long ago the aliens decesnded from the sky in tech we havn't seen and probably thought they were gods and such.however the recent news of the vatican saying god created many things and aliens are also his creation has led me to believe that the is one almighty race who create the greys and humans.

The real God is the one YOU believe in.

There is no "real" god. Man made god in his immage, not the other way around. Gods was just a way to explain what we did not understand. Now that we know how things like lightning, earthquakes etc is, we don't need gods.

so where does love,humanity,and morals come from.i believe the god,is a visitor from long ago,one of us.the first man to set foot on earth.the neil armstrong of the distant past.

If you look at all the religions, there was one God, maybe different names, but one God. Even the Greeks and Romans had Zeus, the God of gods. Keep this in mind when judging religion.

That must be the easiest question ever. They are human traits, it really is that simple. This is why moral changes over the times.

no i believe these are taught,you cannot give what you've never had.not everybody has these qualities..and look where you find them.they are necessary for survival of social groups not individual.religion indoctrines social groups,it teaches these fundementals.God teaches these i do not believe myself that civilisation would be as it was today,if religion hadn't brought peope together in which these qualities (which you can feel and not touch..much like a god.) are paramount. waddayafink?

Comon guys, we all know there is only one god...




errr did I say one.... I meant 3




This post has been edited by Dundee: May 23 2008, 05:29 AM

I think that God is based on whatever someone believes.... if you have a logical, strong base behind your faith/religion, whatever you see and experience automatically works it's way into that form somehow.

but isn't beleif a state of mind.a lot of faith based on the written word,no other physical evidence in the existence of a god,there is more evidence and sightings of ufo's,yet still it has billions of followers worldwide,regardless of whether you are muslim,buddist,druid etc.they all have a godly figure which differs.i would assume if god was a singular he would look the same to everybody.my point is what if (assuming gods are real) there is more than one god,who is the top man(so to speak).are the gods battling for dominance much as man does over faiths?

I think you will find that what constitutes the word "God" is subject to interpretation. And no man ever has the exact precise interpretation as another.

Given thousands of years it is near impossible for all of the human race to follow the same god without someone conceiving of this entity in a way he believes to be more understandable.

It is my belief that not one of them is truly correct. However, if they don't agree then that would give them something to argue over.

It is truly subject to ones own interpretation and could never be more then that.

but if two civilisations who evolve seperately both have a religious doctrine,who both think there god is the right one.So there is either one or many..no in between or gray areas or down to personal belief.the religions have many differences some conflicting,wouldn't one god want all mankind to follow his path.or different gods create seperate paths.

You are misusing the word evolve. It is not a factor of evolution that religious is created. Anyone forwarding that evolution established religion is speaking of something he clearly does not understand. Religion right now is something mankind is in a heavy confusion over, but evolution is completely incapable of establishing religion. Other factors that are at this time not clearly defined and thus not agreed upon are the true cause for religious establishment.

The heritage and history of religion is richer and longer then anyone has yet to establish, this missing history is why this subject is so misunderstood.

The answer to your question is that if you can perceive something and another can perceive it too, then you have a point of reference that will keep the subject standardized.

Religion is below the perception of this worlds population at this time. Thus they are not standard and shift based upon the locals many current interpretations. For a common standard they need to both talk to each other or have a point of reference. If either is lacking or becomes lacking then they will not "evolve" a religion, they will alter it based on generations of interpretations that go more and more astray. It is not an evolution but in fact a decline. At some point it may become possible for religion to evolve. But at this point it is 100% impossible.

This post has been edited by ScottMan: Jun 1 2008, 03:27 AM

First come, first served? So none of the ones invented in the past 100 000 years. That leaves the true god to be......

*drumroll*

THE GREAT HOOGAABOOGAKA BONGOBONGOOGAMOOGALO!!!!

Aliens invented religion as a fractured and ill defined structure open to many interpretations. This so crusades, inqusitions, and jihad would cause us to kill each other and keep overpopulation from destroying the ecology, making us extinct, before we got smart enough to invent rubbers.

Didn't work. We discovered birth control, and we still overburden the earths ability to absorb our poisons.

Does this make us the great cosmic failed experiment?

the real God is the TRUTH and the LAW of ALL THINGS

the Lord of Lords

God is in ALL things

ALL things are of GOD

GOD is LAW and TRUTH of ALL THINGS

LAW is TRUTH ..... for that of which is false cannot stand up to the LAW of which it is CREATED

EVOLUTION must also obey the LAW so must therefore have a beginning and in the beginning there is
LAW

evolution does exist .... in some things but not ALL THINGS

all the rest of the myths and stories and legends of renown men and/or of ancient gods through to the beginning of time one must go back to the beginning of time to understand

The Large Hadron Collider will do for the scientific version of the search for fundamental building blocks of ALL things.
http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/LHC/LHC-en.html

for the rest that are looking for religious properties i recommend the forgotten books of adam and eve
http://www.earth-history.com/Pseudepigraph.../adam-eve-1.htm

oh and FYI the collider is set to activate in august
i really think there is a better way to find the TRUTH and the LAW of ALL THINGS

Lets make sure this is clear. There is a history. It contains many things. If God gave us all the right of free will, then while you can say God is at root of all, we will have to find the men that did the acts, the events that can be broken down that make history. There is a difference between the will of God and the will he gave you. No sane parent would feel good knowing his children have no self determinism. No parent would feel good knowing his children have no faith in themselves or ability to learn without the parent being there to hold their hand. It is an act of cruelty to the child to never let him make decisions on his own and create his own history. His own life. Is God so cruel? of course not.

What a fantastic playground this universe is. Blind men who see nothing more then a desire to not have anything to do with God will show you the layers of life and say God is not to be found. Such people can't see anything God like because they are fixed on proving that they can function without him, like all children will at some time or another. Let them explore. If they deny themselves they deny the last gift God gave all life, a good heart. Don't fight them or engage in arguments unless they give that up too.

Under the many layers of life the laws of reality will bend to another will Science will never grasp. You can see this already as you listen to these off the wall physicist explain time, space, string, big bang and other theories with slip shot answers that dodge reality.

There is no lack of proof, any "man of science" that says you are too stupid to accept facts is confessing like a fitful child for which he is doing with great abandon that he can not see the world he lives in. When he says you only accept what you were told he is on a high horse over the fact that someone... you guessed it... told him something and it was true. He shutdown his own ability to see and takes other people's word for the rest of it. Science accuses others of what it is actually doing. He says "look at what science can do" and like a fitful child's game feels that he is on the winning side and you are stupid for not being on his team.

This is not to say that religion is are perfect either, you too will find you can learn a thing or two. The recorded words of God are not complete works of all life. No parent would give everything and leave no room for judgment on the child's part. Despite what you may have been told the bible and other works were edited requiring you to use even greater judgment. Perhaps the edits solved a problem at time but should have gone back. Perhaps people misunderstood what God said and tried to make it understandable.

The many Gods people believe in are the interpretations that nothing could have stopped when you give a man a pen, paper and religion to theorize about.

Despite the preaching that you need to be like God, he would be disgusted at the person that first said it because all human aberration stems form violation of your faith in your own ability to make the right choice. Crimes are committed by men that gave up on the greatest gift God gave you. Your faith in your ability to make right choices not mater how hard they may be to make or execute. No child without that stands a chance in life. Running to God and telling him you want to give up your free will is the cruelest act you could ever do. I am sure God sees another child die before his eyes when the child loses faith in himself. Because form then on that child can never make the right choice and stick with it. If he can not make one right choice then soon he will not be able to make another until he can make only wrong ones and needs something God can never truly give him as he has already done so and he already has it, free will. If he must be told everything and be dependent on his parent that is not a life, not by any parent's standards if they are sane.

This world is not there to just live in. You will have to learn, you will have to grow as very parent hopes their child will one day do. This universe will not let us down for failure have things for us to learn. Science is not opposed to religion in fact, some of the greatest scientists that ever lived were men of faith that forwarded science not to get away form religion but to forward it too.

All conflict with good men and women of science and good men and woman of religion is an alteration of God's true gift. Like it or not God's word has been perverted. The conflicts that arose after have caused damage that have yet to heal. The people that say the bible is all God's word and should not be questioned may or may not have good intentions but are ignoring God's gift. Common sense is another description of it. No book can be written that addresses all people of all ages and for all time that does not require loads of common sense on the part of the reader.

Never relinquish your free will and judgment, never be afraid to change your beliefs should it be proven to your satisfaction. Never cease to challenge all that you know and that includes God. For I assure you that your understanding of God will change. If you are ever told that this path means you will somehow be lead away form God, know that that person is an idiot and does not believe in God by his own free will and minimally that his free will means nothing to himself or God. For it is only that Free Will and your ability to grant conviction to your choices that grants you the ability to believe in anything, even God. Be willing to shake your own faith and conviction in anything, for if you can not shake it, then it is not yours, it is someone else's.

This post has been edited by ScottMan: Jun 3 2008, 03:54 AM

not sure i recognize your point

ill agree that the bible has flaws misinterpretations and metaphorical

without using the bible there is..

good and evil positive and negative light and darkness
those are the only basic freedom of choice a person has

if what you do and how you live is based always on truth, honesty, love, helping others and unselfish acts then that is good and that is of God

if you choose to lie, cheat, steal, hate and and only look to benefit yourself then that is of evil and darkness

think of it as a chess game a constant battle of light and dark
there is white pieces that represents the light and black pieces that represent the darkness
the choices you make in life such as that game.. leads you to win or be defeated

light always defeats darkness

strike a match in a dark place and darkness recedes

man is born a child of light

i wont consider changing my birthright to be plunged into darkness.

your soul is a vibration of light and will never die thus eternal life
unless you choose to extinguish it by allowing darkness into your life

its that simple