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post May 24 2008, 05:25 AM
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Attached File  Lazar_17.doc ( 7.16MB ) Number of downloads: 5


Between December 1988 and April 1989, the area known as "Groom Lake" on the Nellis Air Force Range in central Nevada became unusually popular. The now infamous Area-51 -- and especially the Groom and Papoose dry lake beds -- were relatively unknown terms to the mainstream community from the mid 1970s to 1989. The scientific circles knew it as "Dreamland" or as the "Skunkworks" or simply as Groom Lake.



One night in May 1989, a reporter broadcast a story from a satellite link in Las Vegas Nevada. A young physicist spoke under hidden identity and told us of 9 alien discs held near Groom Lake by a small, autonomous group of the American government. He used the pseudonym "Dennis" -- which turned out to be the name of his superior at the base. A few weeks later, he went on camera using his real name -- Bob Lazar -- and he has been the subject of worldwide curiosity, speculation, and controversy ever since.

The following pages are the result of over 5 years work in an effort to recreate and illustrate the scientific aspects of an interstellar craft and the physics of its propulsion system. This is a biography in database form, of the events and statements of Bob Lazar. The result is the most complete collection of information to date regarding this subject.

There are many levels and opportunities to explore within this site. If you see text or an image you're interested in, chances are it's a <clickable> link.


Minimum Distortion

Lazar was flown from McCarran Airport in Las Vegas to Area-51, which is a highly secure government base on the Nevada Test Site. Area-51 is located about 125 miles north of Las Vegas near the Groom mountains and the Groom dry lake bed. "From Area 51, I was bussed to an even more highly secure facility located about 15 miles from Area-51 called S4." The following satellite images were obtained to verify the existence of a secret base Lazar said he worked at. Lazar provided Latitude and Longitude coordinates and times that he worked at S4. And JFI, Inc. imaging checked it out.
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The coordinates of Area S4 are N 37° 01' 40", W 115° 46' 35". Note the shiny reflective object (right).

All of the above images are receiving light from the same lower right corner. All shadow sides match perfectly. The most important factor in taking the disc image seriously is the fact that it is reflecting the 2 mountain ranges in its body.


The Underground Lab (S4)

Carved into the base of the Papoose Mountain is a laboratory including 9 hangars -- each one housing an alien disc. It was at this base where Lazar worked. In addition to the hands on experience with the Reticulan craft and propulsion system, Lazar and other scientists were briefed on programs relating to these aliens and their involvement with the human race. The briefings presented an overview of aliens "externally correcting" our evolution over the last 10,000 years and last 15 years of direct technology exchange between extraterrestrial beings and the scientists at S4.

I add a attachment of 68 pages about, How UFO's fly with element 115 what does not excist here on earth and they use gravity A & B

READ EVERYTHING and you will know.
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post May 24 2008, 05:25 AM
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post May 24 2008, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE (JasonS @ May 24 2008, 07:15 AM) *
Attached File  Lazar_17.doc ( 7.16MB ) Number of downloads: 5


Between December 1988 and April 1989, the area known as "Groom Lake" on the Nellis Air Force Range in central Nevada became unusually popular. The now infamous Area-51 -- and especially the Groom and Papoose dry lake beds -- were relatively unknown terms to the mainstream community from the mid 1970s to 1989. The scientific circles knew it as "Dreamland" or as the "Skunkworks" or simply as Groom Lake.



One night in May 1989, a reporter broadcast a story from a satellite link in Las Vegas Nevada. A young physicist spoke under hidden identity and told us of 9 alien discs held near Groom Lake by a small, autonomous group of the American government. He used the pseudonym "Dennis" -- which turned out to be the name of his superior at the base. A few weeks later, he went on camera using his real name -- Bob Lazar -- and he has been the subject of worldwide curiosity, speculation, and controversy ever since.

The following pages are the result of over 5 years work in an effort to recreate and illustrate the scientific aspects of an interstellar craft and the physics of its propulsion system. This is a biography in database form, of the events and statements of Bob Lazar. The result is the most complete collection of information to date regarding this subject.

There are many levels and opportunities to explore within this site. If you see text or an image you're interested in, chances are it's a <clickable> link.


Minimum Distortion

Lazar was flown from McCarran Airport in Las Vegas to Area-51, which is a highly secure government base on the Nevada Test Site. Area-51 is located about 125 miles north of Las Vegas near the Groom mountains and the Groom dry lake bed. "From Area 51, I was bussed to an even more highly secure facility located about 15 miles from Area-51 called S4." The following satellite images were obtained to verify the existence of a secret base Lazar said he worked at. Lazar provided Latitude and Longitude coordinates and times that he worked at S4. And JFI, Inc. imaging checked it out.
<click> image for details


<click> on images for details
The coordinates of Area S4 are N 37° 01' 40", W 115° 46' 35". Note the shiny reflective object (right).

All of the above images are receiving light from the same lower right corner. All shadow sides match perfectly. The most important factor in taking the disc image seriously is the fact that it is reflecting the 2 mountain ranges in its body.


The Underground Lab (S4)

Carved into the base of the Papoose Mountain is a laboratory including 9 hangars -- each one housing an alien disc. It was at this base where Lazar worked. In addition to the hands on experience with the Reticulan craft and propulsion system, Lazar and other scientists were briefed on programs relating to these aliens and their involvement with the human race. The briefings presented an overview of aliens "externally correcting" our evolution over the last 10,000 years and last 15 years of direct technology exchange between extraterrestrial beings and the scientists at S4.

I add a attachment of 68 pages about, How UFO's fly with element 115 what does not excist here on earth and they use gravity A & B

READ EVERYTHING and you will know.


i don't believe a word lazar says
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post May 25 2008, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE (johnnyg @ May 24 2008, 10:02 PM) *
i don't believe a word lazar says


I find it harder to dish out a single opinion about the man. On one hand his account of things he said he saw with this eye balls seemed creditable. However, the man has go on to state things that have nothing to do with reality as he draws conclusions and explains how the things we say worked.

Some how he could see and accurately describe alien technology but when it comes to understanding it he loses all touch with reality. So there is a line drawn between what one sees and then purely interjected fact based on nothing real.

I am inclined to believe his statement that S4 and 9 UFOs are in the hands of Area 51 because I believe he could be sincere about it, but I am only going off of his word. That and a very brief but accurate sounding description of the craft are as far as I will go.

The rest is not of much value.
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post May 25 2008, 02:21 AM
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QUOTE (ScottMan @ May 25 2008, 01:32 AM) *
I find it harder to dish out a single opinion about the man. On one hand his account of things he said he saw with this eye balls seemed creditable. However, the man has go on to state things that have nothing to do with reality as he draws conclusions and explains how the things we say worked.

Some how he could see and accurately describe alien technology but when it comes to understanding it he loses all touch with reality. So there is a line drawn between what one sees and then purely interjected fact based on nothing real.

I am inclined to believe his statement that S4 and 9 UFOs are in the hands of Area 51 because I believe he could be sincere about it, but I am only going off of his word. That and a very brief but accurate sounding description of the craft are as far as I will go.

The rest is not of much value.


True, some say the engine is powered by the minds of the extraterrestrials beings. It's quiet logic how he explains everything. You should watch some youtube video's of it.
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post May 25 2008, 03:59 AM
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I have been leaning more and more, that Mr Lazar, is full of it.

Do you know what he is now doing?


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post May 25 2008, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE (SOUL-DRIFTER @ May 25 2008, 05:49 AM) *
I have been leaning more and more, that Mr Lazar, is full of it.

Do you know what he is now doing?



I'm not sure what he's doing now. But, i've seen several things online where people have attempted to validate his graduate degrees with the schools he claimed he went to. Each school said they have no record of him ever attending those institutions.

I would love the opportunity to sit with a physics professor and have him take a look at that document. I have a feeling they would laugh at some of it.
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post May 25 2008, 10:09 AM
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Bob Lazar is running a company called United Nuclear.

http://switch2hydrogen.com/

It sells scientific supplies and working on a hydrogen conversion kit for your car or truck.


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post May 25 2008, 10:10 AM
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Bobby is doing now what he was doing back in the 1980's.. Selling scientific supplies via the internet.. He has a website dedicated to this.. Small time I might add.. ~rore

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QUOTE (johnnyg @ May 25 2008, 10:02 AM) *
I'm not sure what he's doing now. But, i've seen several things online where people have attempted to validate his graduate degrees with the schools he claimed he went to. Each school said they have no record of him ever attending those institutions.

I would love the opportunity to sit with a physics professor and have him take a look at that document. I have a feeling they would laugh at some of it.


He has no records because the government erased all his information.
He worked for the U.S. Department of Navel Intelligence, but that never excisted.
Not that it was a fake no, that part was kept secret for public.

For vehicular propulsion Lazar claims that an unexpectedly stable element with atomic number 115 served as nuclear fuel. The onboard Element 115 or Ununpentium reactor reportedly provided an enormous energy source for the triad of gravity-field generators located in the bottom section of the craft. The energy conversion rate of this reactor supposedly allowed a craft at least 20 years' operation on less than a quarter-kilogram of Element 115.

An additional property of Element 115 also allowed its reactor to produce a very miniscule Gravity-A wave which was fantastically amplified and channelled through the gravity-distortion devices to provide lift and propulsion for the alleged alien vehicles. Gravity-A is distinguished from Gravity-B in that Gravity-A acts only between atomic nuclear components and is vastly more powerful than the Gravity-B which we all know from our own everyday experience.

Lazar further claimed that he was given introductory briefings describing the historical involvement by extraterrestrial beings with this planet for 10,000 years. He claimed that the beings originated from the Zeta Retuculi 1 & 2 star system and are therefore referred to as Zeta Reticulans, and are what many people refer to as the 'Greys'.

Anyways it's always quiet hard to believe what he said because we will never know if he worked at S4.
It's a shame that they won't tell us that they have Undetified Flying Objects over there or no.

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QUOTE (JasonS @ May 25 2008, 01:02 PM) *
He has no records because the government erased all his information.
He worked for the U.S. Department of Navel Intelligence, but that never excisted.
Not that it was a fake no, that part was kept secret for public.

For vehicular propulsion Lazar claims that an unexpectedly stable element with atomic number 115 served as nuclear fuel. The onboard Element 115 or Ununpentium reactor reportedly provided an enormous energy source for the triad of gravity-field generators located in the bottom section of the craft. The energy conversion rate of this reactor supposedly allowed a craft at least 20 years' operation on less than a quarter-kilogram of Element 115.

An additional property of Element 115 also allowed its reactor to produce a very miniscule Gravity-A wave which was fantastically amplified and channelled through the gravity-distortion devices to provide lift and propulsion for the alleged alien vehicles. Gravity-A is distinguished from Gravity-B in that Gravity-A acts only between atomic nuclear components and is vastly more powerful than the Gravity-B which we all know from our own everyday experience.

Lazar further claimed that he was given introductory briefings describing the historical involvement by extraterrestrial beings with this planet for 10,000 years. He claimed that the beings originated from the Zeta Retuculi 1 & 2 star system and are therefore referred to as Zeta Reticulans, and are what many people refer to as the 'Greys'.

Anyways it's always quiet hard to believe what he said because we will never know if he worked at S4.
It's a shame that they won't tell us that they have Undetified Flying Objects over there or no.


While I agree it may not be impossible that he was telling the truth about his employment at an S4 facility, it is extremely unlikely seeing how it would have been close to impossible for the government to erase his name from all the years books and other sources that should have offered some proof to his claims.
Until evidence proves otherwise, I continue to believe he is full of shit.


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QUOTE (SOUL-DRIFTER @ May 25 2008, 03:53 PM) *
While I agree it may not be impossible that he was telling the truth about his employment at an S4 facility, it is extremely unlikely seeing how it would have been close to impossible for the government to erase his name from all the years books and other sources that should have offered some proof to his claims.
Until evidence proves otherwise, I continue to believe he is full of shit.



Agreed!!
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Here's a great article from Stanton Friedman on Mr. Lazar. Unfortunately the link he also provides to another Physicist that totally debunks Mr. Lazar's physics and science that he claims is broken. When I find the article I will post it.


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post May 26 2008, 06:38 AM
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QUOTE (SOUL-DRIFTER @ May 25 2008, 02:53 PM) *
While I agree it may not be impossible that he was telling the truth about his employment at an S4 facility, it is extremely unlikely seeing how it would have been close to impossible for the government to erase his name from all the years books and other sources that should have offered some proof to his claims.
Until evidence proves otherwise, I continue to believe he is full of shit.


Maybe the man will be our only source of knowing how a UFO is build. So i will believe.
Yes the government is in that state to erase that fast his name from all the year books.

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post May 26 2008, 07:07 AM
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Early this year britisch scientists made an anti gravitation system, they demonstrated it, that was based on the story of Bob Lazar(element 115). The scientists said that the evidence what Lazar told about Element 115 actually is true.

Lawrence Livermore Lab created a tiny bit of Element 115 in their lab. A deepgoing undertaking, but the material was so unstable that all of the atoms decayed down to Dubnium (105) fairly quickly.
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One day at my school when it was career day I asked the Lockhead Martin guy if they were involve with electro magnetic propulsion and he said they were and that they were also working on anti-gravity propulsion.This is just as Bob said.
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I would expect that corperations and governments around the world are working on advanced propulsion systems. The first to develop such propulsion will reap the rewards.

This in no way validates Bob Lazar story. As to erasing any records of Lazars education, it would be easier to erase Lazar.

Early this year britisch scientists made an anti gravitation system, they demonstrated it, that was based on the story of Bob Lazar(element 115). The scientists said that the evidence what Lazar told about Element 115 actually is true.

Lawrence Livermore Lab created a tiny bit of Element 115 in their lab. A deepgoing undertaking, but the material was so unstable that all of the atoms decayed down to Dubnium (105) fairly quickly.


If you can document source or provide links please do so. Otherwise it is unfounded claim. Would love to see source of information.
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Here’s a blurb from wiki regarding the synthesis of element 115 in 2004.. ~rore

“Ununpentium is the temporary name of a synthetic superheavy element in the periodic table that has the temporary symbol Uup and has the atomic number 115.” More @


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Element_115

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QUOTE (rorechof @ May 27 2008, 09:15 AM) *
Here’s a blurb from wiki regarding the synthesis of element 115 in 2004.. ~rore

“Ununpentium is the temporary name of a synthetic superheavy element in the periodic table that has the temporary symbol Uup and has the atomic number 115.” More @


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Element_115

Thank you. Good refence.
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if one wants to believe UFO's/Aliens are real then ya have to take the possibility that lazzer just
might be telling the truth... and i know that flying disc's are real.. ive seen one.. one of my
first sightings that just blows away all others ive seen.. but it wasnt just a metalic
disc. as it passed over it went all transparent and glowing like a pretzel shape and then suddenly
it shrunk to a jet black cylinder.. looked like a oil drum just floating across the sky... just mind blowing to see..
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I read somewhere that antigravity and EM propulsion has been worked on since the 50s.

I've seen them too & believe the government(s) are working on recovered alien technology. But Lazar may be taking advantage of our beliefs and is just using his scientific knowledge to spin a convincing story.
I am 65% sure he is BS.


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