Look at yourself... Ask yourself If you have controle of your life. Think of your children, and childrens children, please Watch this to DeProgram your mind and Pass it to everyone you can Time is short!

I post this with love for mankind that we can stop this IF its not too late! Please Watch the whole Movie!!!

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/


-DRIFTER-

This is only one pov/belief like many others. This is what makes us all different. Has nothing to do with not having freedom or needing to be deprogrammed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFXQ6DydSE


The Admiral

This post has been edited by Fleet Admiral: Jun 10 2008, 08:53 PM

First you didnt have enough time to watch it so u have no room to talk.

how is that POV tell me please its FACT so cant be POV thank you.




Before you talk make sure your not speaking out the wrong end.

I've seen the movie before. And it is a pov. Many "facts" can be manipulated/presented out of context. You also did not have time to watch the alternative pov vid link I provided. Am I supposed to only see yours and not you mine?

Fact? Whatever. I watched the opening ..4 minutes..and already there were so many distortions, half truths, and flat out errors that it was making my head spin.

Did it dawn to your 1. 4 mins dosnt mean anything, and 2. I said ( and yes quote me ) Watch the whole thing.

Also I Part 2, and 3, are talking about the something totally diff than part one. I can care less about what or whos god people worship. I'm trying to get the point out there about the NWO, Fed ID cards, the North American Union, which takes away all of our rights, and the Patriot Act that will Destroy us all.

1:

So ... I learn freedom by doing what you say?

2:
It IS opinion. Trust me.

3:

This sounds like the sort of ad hominem attack that does NOT belong at AU. We should avoid personal attacks.

4:
Maybe try a different approach. This one's not working.

Let me first say sorry about my "Attitude and Low blow"

I guess i get caught up in the "Just" of this stuff . One day its one thing and the next day its something else my head was in my ass on that one so again i say sorry.


But i still believe it LoL hope im wrong

I understand getting caught up in stuff. I do too. Part of the strength of AU is having people who feel strongly about these topics, and really want to talk about, think about and explore these things. The fact that this stuff is important to you is a good thing, and I'm glad you're here!

No offence take, Drifter, we all get passionate about our beliefs as kirin said, and it can be a good thing when you stand up for them. But I have found that this is a ctually a nice forum and many passionate yet different views are shared in a most cordial way. It really works. Keep at it.

I remember the first time I saw the Zeitgeist movie (it seems ages ago), and the way it slaps you in the face (when you see the whole film). Even if you've been studying a lot about all these subjects, seeing it all lined up is impressive. To me it seemed you had to bite through the first part, related to religion, but from there it seemed quite good to me. I don't really care about the way Hollywood style influences this film, as long as it succeeds in getting attention from people who otherwise would never take a look from outside the mainstream media gutter.

I know, even a lot of people with very good intentions make big mistakes because they cannot see where they lost track. But there's a red line through all of this, and you just have to find it yourself. Educate your mind, as they say.

But where does this get us?

Also on this forum I think I see a lot of people who are quite well informed, did their research etc., but still nothing structurally happens to change the way society gets poisoned, where the bad guys (whatever that may be) go on and on. They are "organised", they know how mas-media work and know it for decades. They know how to put labels on the good guys to make them look bad (even if I can't always aprove of what or how "the good guys" try to change things).

I think it takes a good guy to at least take the effort of putting that film up.

PS

I remember the film I saw a few days after Zeitgeist was "Earthlings". I only could see about 5 minutes than had to turn it of... and only saw snippets of the rest. Can you do 6 minutes?

No, it didnt occur to me that "the first 4 minutes dont mean anything". If they lie and distort things in the first 4 minutes, why would I trust anything else they have to say?

And if they are lying to me in the first 4 minutes..why would I bother to watch the whole thing?

I've watched Zeitgeist more than a few times, and to me it really feels like an alex jones documentary rolled into loose change with some spice.

Doesnt do it for me, at all.

I've seen this film - I liked it a lot. I'm not too sure if it's the complete truth, but I do believe in the people pulling the strings trying to shape the world the way they want.

Actually, they have shaped the world the way they want.

What do you think of this? I follow the teachings of the Prophet Rael and he's had this to say about the movie:


“Contrary to the negative commentary in this film, having a one-world government as explained in the Messages given by the Elohim is the only way to save Humanity. It could be democratically controlled by the people as well as eventually reaching geniocracy." (you can read more about geniocracy in the free download book, Intelligent Design, as well as ordering "Geniocracy" which explains this topic in depth)

Rael went on to say: "A world government is indeed much better than a total destruction through a nuclear world war. Additionally, control of criminals through implanted chips is also good and much better than prisons, especially if these chips can detect the mental sickness which creates violence. What would be terrible is if a world power were to destroy freedom and human rights using these tools. But this is already happening right now in several nations and it’s not necessarily what will happen with a world government, which, if it is controlled by the “people for the people”, can also be a model of freedom with the Declaration of Human Rights as a World Constitution. Not being a criminal and if all the freedoms of Human Rights would be granted, I would be very willing to have this chip implanted in me. And with the United Nations as a supervising authority of this world government it could work very positively. Besides, it’s much better than the current independent nationalistic powers accumulating nuclear weapons, preparing for the self destruction of Humanity and wasting huge amounts of money for national armies while children are starving and lacking education. The future is clearly more beautiful with a world government, a world currency, and a world language, which, when implemented all together will bring eternal world peace."

-Josh
Aliens='God'
www.rael.org

Rael seems to mis out on the "beauty of diversity". He also does not seem to understand how languages carry, sustain the beauty of cultures etc.

This next example I used in my thesis on "design", for me it works all the time, for everyday life:

What is the quality of a dead branch, next to a living branch?

The dead branch has a tendency to fall into similar particles, where the living branch has a tendency to "fall" into differentiated particles.
Life is differentiation, growth. Death is equalization, decay.

Next is the naivity of trusting bad people. You don't give the (quality of) life of your children into the hands of crooks. Crooks are bad beyond your imagination.
Giving crooks the means (like implants, political power, federal reserve etc.) to control and secure the(ir) system is as offering humanity to slavery. As just being cattle.

Just look at the lessons to be learned from the Romans and you can translate/project all their political abuses to society into 2008 (and of course before that).

I do not believe in ONE world as in "under ONE system". I do believe in ONE WORLD, as in "respect+freedom+trust", but that world has to grow, from the inside out. Only governments that understand this, can make it happen. So..., we have a looooooooooooooooong way to go. If ever.

any one who thinks that a new world order will do the world some good should have departed with the third riech,because it is just another form of fascism.Creators and freethinkers will become the new criminals,diasbled,homosexuals and the infirm will be nuetralised,private gatherings will be banned to prevent dissent.i would rather die a free man than live a life on a prison planet.its martial law not world order.its diversity that makes this planet the best place in the universe to hang out.

If this isn't the POTD then it's pretty close. Well said.

With the one language and the one world government, the one language would be the 'official' language of the world, used by all people in order to understand each other. However, individual languages will still be used when anyone wants to talk to someone who understands that language. The same with cultures and traditions, these will still all be respected.

At the moment, we cannot have a world government because we are too violent and primitive. If we handed power to the people who run the world today (we already have!) then we know the results. This is why we need a new system in order to bring about this one world government.

Democracy hasn't worked - let's try geniocracy.

You can download the book 'Geniocracy' at www.rael.org for free. It explains that only the most brilliant, peaceful and wise people should run the governments of the world. As we progress scientifically (as far as learning about the brain) we can do tests to see who is the most peaceful. We know that criminals and other violent people have certain parts of their brains smaller than others, because they don't use the 'peaceful' part of it, so to speak. When we can accurately test this, then we will know who we can trust to make the best decisions in a one world government.

-Josh
Aliens='God'
www.rael.org

I can see why people would be scared of a one world government - even I don't want a one world government in today's conditions!

Could you imagine how open to abuse it would be with corrupt people in power! We have already seen how ruined our system has become and our quality of life thanks to people like George Bush. People like this will have no place in a one world government.

Read the previous post by me and I explain how we can implement the one world government to ensure that we have no such people running the world. When we eliminate people like this from being in the government, we will be free to encourage diversity and freedom. Creators and free thinkers will run the government!

-Josh