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  Jun 20 2008, 01:19 AM
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It would seem that there is indeed ice on Mars.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080620/ap_on_...JKw_s_f6SwPLBIF --------------------  QUEST FOR THE REAL TRUTH |
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Jun 20 2008, 01:19 AM
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Jun 20 2008, 07:12 AM
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You beat me to it SD, here is a link to the Nasa website: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/phoenix/...x-20080619.html
Could this thread be merged with: http://www.alien-ufos.com/NASA-s-Phoenix-H...ing-t21207.html ?? Proving that the poles of Mars could be habitable would be great encouragement to send a manned mission. But although evidence of ice on Mars has been gathered before, it is just an assumption that it is water as we know it. None of the Phoenix scientists have said thats it's H2O, just 'ice'. Take into consideration that earlier in the mission hopes of discovering ice were fading as soil samples scooped up by Phoenix yielded no trace of water. -------------------- My film shorts: The angry poster Invasion plans Superhuman I've had a good look around the site and there aint no sanity clause-Oskar Dec 8 2008 |
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Jun 20 2008, 11:11 AM
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The statement by the Phoenix Principal Investigator that;
QUOTE It must be ice...These little clumps completely disappearing over the course of a few days, that is perfect evidence that it's ice. There had been some question whether the bright material was salt. Salt can't do that. Just seems really un-scientific. If somebody posted a statement like that on a forum they'd be taken apart. Surly if what they have uncovered is some kind of calcite deposit it is now open to whatever elemental forces are at work on Mars, and would be subject to erosion? -------------------- My film shorts: The angry poster Invasion plans Superhuman I've had a good look around the site and there aint no sanity clause-Oskar Dec 8 2008 |
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Jun 20 2008, 09:37 PM
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comfortablynumb - I did pink floyd, just thought I'd say it lol.
I think it is for certain some kind of permafrost. Here's a definition for those who don't know about it. QUOTE Permafrost is defined on the basis of temperature, as soil or rock that remains below 0°C throughout the year, and forms when the ground cools sufficiently in winter to produce a frozen layer that persists throughout the following summer. The atmospheric climate is the main factor determining the existence of permafrost. However, the spatial distribution, thickness and temperature of permafrost is highly dependent on the temperature at the ground surface. I could be wrong alien homies. But I have heard NASA speak of permafrost as a possibility on MARS for some years now. --------------------  |
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Jun 23 2008, 01:05 PM
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I am a bit dismayed by this. What is the point of the probe if they are relying on cameras to do chemical analysis? I thought it had all sorts of expensive gadgets on it to perform a chemical analysis of what it finds? And they had the stuff exposed for several days and they couldn't even perform that analysis before it all sublimated away?
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Jun 23 2008, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE (Andrew @ Jun 23 2008, 02:05 PM)  I am a bit dismayed by this. What is the point of the probe if they are relying on cameras to do chemical analysis? I thought it had all sorts of expensive gadgets on it to perform a chemical analysis of what it finds? And they had the stuff exposed for several days and they couldn't even perform that analysis before it all sublimated away? Thats NASA for you. On there behalf, I'll say it....ooops. -------------------- QUEST FOR THE REAL TRUTH |
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Jun 25 2008, 01:14 PM
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According to another source (I'll link it in a bit) they confirmed it as H2O on the 22nd. Water confirmed on June 22nd
I don't know how reliable that is, but yeah... Oh well, lets hope they find something we all want them to find; evidence of life at one time or another. Edit: NASA has the same thing here... It's a link. This post has been edited by Mr. E: Jun 25 2008, 01:25 PM |
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Jun 28 2008, 08:10 AM
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Soil on Mars 'good for asparagus'
So i guess this is the start of something huge. The significance of this story is mind boggling. The is the first step required for terraforming parts of mars. The opportunity to firstly find out the soil 'could' support life is a great first step. I will be watching these developments with great interest. To find any sort of organic life outside our biosphere would be amazing, though ultimately inevitable. I believe that there is perhaps more being done on Mars that we are privy to. I don't mean anything way out, but more along the lines of more complex experiments perhaps taking a soil sample and planting a seed from earth...maybe  A small biosphere project on the Martian surface would be fantastic. Though the logistics of such an attempt are clearly enormous. Extracting the new found Martian ice and allowing it to liquefy to feed or help germinate seeds from earth would be a great step forward. You have to wonder how far away we are from seeing the beginnings of terraforming on Mars. Is it 20 years away or 10 years away? I would hope that in my lifetime i will at the least hear of such a project being established if not launched. I guess there will be more exciting news coming from phoenix in the coming weeks and months. 
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Jun 30 2008, 05:44 AM
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Well we've known there was ice on Mars years ago. Why do you think the poles are white, especially in mars winter?
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Jun 30 2008, 10:46 AM
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Yes, this announcement is pretty baffling when the presence of ice is already known. I thought the probe was there to investigate the possibility of past life, not the presence of water ice.
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Jun 30 2008, 11:37 AM
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That's it, I'm going to Mars to become an asparagus farmer.
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Jul 2 2008, 07:05 PM
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Great, now asparagus will be Martian also? I hate asparagus, can't stand it. I guess I'll have to try to blow up Mars now...
Anyways, lets hope that they someday manage to find life at least once existed there. |
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