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post Jun 20 2008, 04:23 AM
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Remember the reports about the wreckage found at Roswell people reported they couldn't be broken or burned does anyone know of any type of material we have on Earth now that fits this description ? very thin like foil that couldn't be burned or broken and if it could have been available in 1947 any ideas guys ? bear in mind we were told that the Rawin target balloon was made of balsa wood stuck together with tape

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post Jun 20 2008, 05:49 AM
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not really connected but interesting have a look http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TYtO_sxk6Og&...feature=related
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post Jun 20 2008, 07:30 AM
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Agreed Mac very interesting these metals seem to re-act to chemicals were as the foil like debris at Roswell was thin and resistant to heat ( they tried to burn it with a blow-torch ) and brute force i seem to remember (they tried hitting it with a sledgehammer ) but to no avail and that was in 1947

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post Jun 20 2008, 10:51 AM
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like a metal with memory.Some ufos have been witnessed changing shape before they accelerate.but if this metal is so durable and maybe indestructable,it would shed doubt on roswell being a crashed alien saucer.
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post Jun 20 2008, 12:25 PM
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Nothing is indestructable.

None the less, we had no metal or alloy that can fit all those descriptions, in 1947. I doubt, if we as yet do.


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post Jun 20 2008, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE (macdaddy @ Jun 20 2008, 07:49 AM) *
not really connected but interesting have a look http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TYtO_sxk6Og&...feature=related



Looks like "they" got to the video and removed it.


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post Jun 21 2008, 01:08 AM
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QUOTE (SOUL-DRIFTER @ Jun 21 2008, 06:25 AM) *
Nothing is indestructable.

None the less, we had no metal or alloy that can fit all those descriptions, in 1947. I doubt, if we as yet do.


Please Soul Drifter, that "nothing" is only nothing you (now) know of. smile.gif If you can imagine how "it" could possibly work, then it probably has or is being done. Imagine anything beyond your scope...

(I don't want to focus on "indestructable" because that's such a negative/deconstructive approach and just makes me think of all the "immature" destructive forces at work "lately".)

A material we now (since a little more than a decade) publicly know of is, in it's commercialised brandname, "kevlar" (carbonfibre), I think it was branded by Dupont. Could you imagine what else is secretly on their shelves for years? Could you imagine what materials are being tested on the latest (warfare) toys? It's a sick boys world.

In 1997 I wrote my thesis (I'm an architectural-, industrial designer) and one of the developments I saw (envisioned/phantasised) then was " a free floating material with the capacity to change it's/the shape of a room, for a new function". It is only a matter of time that it will happen. If I can think of it, I can inspire others to solve parts of the equation and together it makes a new product. I do not have to be an expert in all the fields to yet be able to understand it's essences, to come up with new integrated design. How many times did people say in history that things can't be done? History keeps repeating itself...

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post Jun 21 2008, 06:02 AM
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Roswell was probably one of japans balloon bombs they were sending over on the jetstream.. someone
forget to tell them the war was over and they kept sending them.. they probably account for most ufo sightings biggrin.gif
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post Jun 21 2008, 06:55 AM
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QUOTE (skylurker @ Jun 21 2008, 02:08 AM) *
Please Soul Drifter, that "nothing" is only nothing you (now) know of. smile.gif If you can imagine how "it" could possibly work, then it probably has or is being done. Imagine anything beyond your scope...

(I don't want to focus on "indestructable" because that's such a negative/deconstructive approach and just makes me think of all the "immature" destructive forces at work "lately".)


A destructive approach is how we test materials for durability, strength, abrasion resistance etc., etc..

What they had found for debri may not have been metal at all for all we know. It could have been some other extremely exotic metallic looking material, who knows.


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post Jun 22 2008, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE (oskar @ Jun 20 2008, 04:23 AM) *
Remember the reports about the wreckage found at Roswell people reported they couldn't be broken or burned does anyone know of any type of material we have on Earth now that fits this description ? very thin like foil that couldn't be burned or broken and if it could have been available in 1947 any ideas guys ? bear in mind we were told that the Rawin target balloon was made of balsa wood stuck together with tape

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QUOTE (oskar @ Jun 20 2008, 04:23 AM) *
Remember the reports about the wreckage found at Roswell people reported they couldn't be broken or burned does anyone know of any type of material we have on Earth now that fits this description ? very thin like foil that couldn't be burned or broken and if it could have been available in 1947 any ideas guys ? bear in mind we were told that the Rawin target balloon was made of balsa wood stuck together with tape

You make a very good point.
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post Jun 22 2008, 01:58 PM
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just a small point to make...anything that travels across the galaxy or further is gonna have to be durable if not virtually indestructable,and the sat-nav's gotta be spot on.
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post Jun 22 2008, 02:44 PM
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As a designer I'd have a different approach:

I would make the most FLEXIBLE design with the most integrated functions.

Result:

Shape shifting material with build in homing device. Different function > different material/different shape. It's quite simple really. wink.gif


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QUOTE (macdaddy @ Jun 22 2008, 02:58 PM) *
just a small point to make...anything that travels across the galaxy or further is gonna have to be durable if not virtually indestructable,and the sat-nav's gotta be spot on.


Why?

If you are travelling space you must have some kind of energy shield(force field) to protect you from space debri, therefore would you need to have a hull so tough, I don't think so. If your shields failed, I doubt there exists tough enough material to stop debri travelling at near the speed of light when it hits.
Navigation could easily be done by tuning into specific gravitational sources and done automatically.


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post Jun 23 2008, 10:40 AM
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you'd have to have adeqate protection from all the different types of radiation,and not to forget..space bandits!
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post Jun 26 2008, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE (macdaddy @ Jun 24 2008, 04:40 AM) *
you'd have to have adeqate protection from all the different types of radiation,and not to forget..space bandits!


Doesn't that only apply to designs/materials we're familiar with?

Space bandits? Interesting. Know any?


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QUOTE (SOUL-DRIFTER @ Jun 20 2008, 12:25 PM) *
Nothing is indestructable.

None the less, we had no metal or alloy that can fit all those descriptions, in 1947. I doubt, if we as yet do.

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Futurists are currently predicting that nano-technology will be incorporated into future space probes exploring our solar system. The nano technology will be able to repair minute holes created by impacts during space travel.
Also Its estimated that our alloys are only at 25% of their available strength currently. With nano technology we could easily achieve greater strength at
a very low cost, and great efficiency.
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