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JDorfler
post Jul 5 2008, 08:19 AM
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I'm a CIO of a small hotel management company. Anyway, I find it fun, and also educational to use as many operating systems as possible to help understand the uses and difficulties of our company's clients. Anyway, if you read in my blog about about how I feel about Microsoft you will understand I have no ill will towards them. In fact I own a lot of stock with them. However, I still dual boot with Ubuntu, which I have fallen in love with. Does anyone else use a Linux Distro, or other Unix based OS? The Mac OS is Unix based by the way. Also, what do you like and not like about your OS. If you use WinXP or Vista, go ahead an post what you like and don't like about them as well.


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post Jul 5 2008, 10:09 AM
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I created two Live CDs of SUSE Linux, but after I got to the menu to start it up, it would never load and I tried them on more than one computer. That was the end of my Linux experimentation.
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post Jul 5 2008, 01:30 PM
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The problem with SUSE, and some other distros, is they are based on Ubuntu. They just don't seem to be able to get it right like Ubuntu can. I have tried several distros, and so far the only ones that work like it should is Ubuntu and Mandriva. I chose to stay with Ubuntu for my Linux partition due to it's larger community, thus better support.


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post Jul 27 2008, 08:35 PM
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I have Ubuntu Workstation and Ubuntu Sever running at home, I have used BeOS for a time as well, not for about 2 years now. Ubuntu is great, when they have the eye candy of OSX.x it will be un stoppable lol
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post Jul 27 2008, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE (JDorfler @ Jul 6 2008, 05:30 AM) *
The problem with SUSE, and some other distros, is they are based on Ubuntu. They just don't seem to be able to get it right like Ubuntu can. I have tried several distros, and so far the only ones that work like it should is Ubuntu and Mandriva. I chose to stay with Ubuntu for my Linux partition due to it's larger community, thus better support.

Hey JD, Thats not actually correct, Suse was here long before Ubuntu, the difference now with Suse is that they it is run by Novell. Red Hat became Fedora a few years back. Ubuntu is a fairly new player by comparison to others, I think it is actually based on a Debian release. I started out using Slackware version....1.3???? about, umm maybe 15 years ago, cant remember now exactly when. But for years I have been a confirmed Suse lover. But I have found of late they are getting a little commercial, and I am not happy with where Yast has gotten too.
SO Here I am with Ubuntu, so far so good, we will see how it goes. It saw all my hardware except my dual screens out of the box and although it was areal nightmare getting the dual head card to work properly (something that is easy under Suse) I got there in the end.
I was triple booting, actually I managed a quad boot for a while too.
Suse,
32 bit XP
64 bit XP
Vista

I have now happily dumped VIsta, and although I liked the 64bit XP, it was a real pain to get all my hardware etc working, wouldnt see some of it.
So, I am back to my Humble old version of XP, and Ubuntu Ultimate 8.04

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post Jul 28 2008, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE (Dundee @ Jul 28 2008, 02:56 PM) *
Hey JD, Thats not actually correct, Suse was here long before Ubuntu, the difference now with Suse is that they it is run by Novell. Red Hat became Fedora a few years back. Ubuntu is a fairly new player by comparison to others, I think it is actually based on a Debian release. I started out using Slackware version....1.3???? about, umm maybe 15 years ago, cant remember now exactly when. But for years I have been a confirmed Suse lover. But I have found of late they are getting a little commercial, and I am not happy with where Yast has gotten too.
SO Here I am with Ubuntu, so far so good, we will see how it goes. It saw all my hardware except my dual screens out of the box and although it was areal nightmare getting the dual head card to work properly (something that is easy under Suse) I got there in the end.
I was triple booting, actually I managed a quad boot for a while too.
Suse,
32 bit XP
64 bit XP
Vista

I have now happily dumped VIsta, and although I liked the 64bit XP, it was a real pain to get all my hardware etc working, wouldnt see some of it.
So, I am back to my Humble old version of XP, and Ubuntu Ultimate 8.04



You are absolutely correct about Ubuntu being a late comer to the game, so to speak. Yes, it does use Debian. However, Suse for me has always never worked properly on my hardware and the hardware of others. I suppose Suse deciding to base their builds off of Ubuntu was a way of cutting down development time by Novell. There are rumors now that Novell may start their own OpenOffice version.


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post Jul 28 2008, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE (JDorfler @ Jul 29 2008, 08:51 AM) *
...................... I suppose Suse deciding to base their builds off of Ubuntu was a way of cutting down development time by Novell..................

Can you tell me what you mean here, Suse has been an independant distro, like the old Red hat, or Debian, I am not sure where you are coming from when you say Suse are basing there builds of Ubuntu, particularly when Ubuntu is actually built on Debian. Suse was here long before Ubuntu was a gleam in a pixels eye, so I am not sure how Suse was based on Ubuntu smile.gif
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post Jul 28 2008, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE (Dundee @ Jul 29 2008, 10:10 AM) *
Can you tell me what you mean here, Suse has been an independant distro, like the old Red hat, or Debian, I am not sure where you are coming from when you say Suse are basing there builds of Ubuntu, particularly when Ubuntu is actually built on Debian. Suse was here long before Ubuntu was a gleam in a pixels eye, so I am not sure how Suse was based on Ubuntu smile.gif


Getting old. I haven't been to the OpenSuse website in years. I was getting it confused with Freespire, who's first sentence is, "Freespire 2.0 begins with Ubuntu (Version 7.04) as its baseline and then adds software from six broad categories, further expandingFreespire's capabilities:" That and I recently watched:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrN1vfjfyUU

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eOknrSAUjQ

I had tried a bunch of distros about a year ago, and settled on Ubuntu. Ubuntu is based on Debian, thus uses .deb packages. OpenSuse uses .rpm packages I believe.


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post Jul 28 2008, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE (JDorfler @ Jul 29 2008, 11:58 AM) *
Getting old. I haven't been to the OpenSuse website in years. I was getting it confused with Freespire, who's first sentence is, "Freespire 2.0 begins with Ubuntu (Version 7.04) as its baseline and then adds software from six broad categories, further expandingFreespire's capabilities:" That and I recently watched:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrN1vfjfyUU

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eOknrSAUjQ

I had tried a bunch of distros about a year ago, and settled on Ubuntu. Ubuntu is based on Debian, thus uses .deb packages. OpenSuse uses .rpm packages I believe.

Cool, yeah Suse uses rpms. As doed redhat, aka Fedora, thus Redhat Package Manager
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