Hi guys,Dr. James R. Bartzen claims to know the true source of a strange grouping of lights that appeared in the Arizona night sky 11 years ago.Dr. James R. Bartzen said he has indisputable proof that the so-called "Phoenix Lights" were a product of secret man-made technology being shielded from the public.

He works at the Russian-American Institute of Space Science."There are no theories, there is only evidence," Bartzen told ABC15. "The government desires people to believe in space aliens so they don't have to reveal the technologies that both we and the Russians have. EXTERNAL VIDEO

So what you guy sthink about it ??? i am waiting for 19th man

Bartzen is obviously full of shit, or at least partly, anyway.
He claims all UFOs are secret aircraft? What? They have been flying around in secret aircraft since biblical times? Give me a break!
I'll be waiting to see this indesputable proof he speaks of.

Since when does the US or any other country announce it's secret technology at a show where you buy tickets. He should be arrested for fraud.

I wondor how many ufo or abduction experts would dissapear if they could be arrested for fraud for inventing stuff for the sake of book sales etc.

Charletons make it harder to find the truth. He is promoting his lecture for profit. Thats the first clue that he is clueless.

in the video below you see a spherical type craft, capturing a triangular craft.

i have 3 ideas as to what this could be. 1. our defender friends, perhaps earth inhabitants of long past, or friendly benevolent alien civilization, protecting us from malevolent visitors.

2. some government capturing a ufo, (doubt it)

3. evil aliens capturing our defenders.

or 4, fake b.s.

you decide...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgfM5vQgDfE



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This post has been edited by vyrtigo: Jul 10 2008, 11:30 PM

The problem I see, is that you have someone like this guy who may be what he claims, but goes so far to use one idea as a blanket explanation.

I saw two objects maneuvering. Without any other context little can be said with certainty. I do believe our government does not reveal all that they know.

if you look closely you can see an orange-yellow tractor beam coming from the circular ufo.

sure looks like U.F.Os to me

that was an amazing video!

Its now 26th July where is his disclosure?
I bet only the people who PAID to hear him speak got to see it.
Of course he comes out of nowhere and is all of a sudden someone important.
To promote paid services redplanetdiner etc buy your tickets now.
Its all a sham.

This post has been edited by Being: Jul 26 2008, 07:37 AM

Who is Dr. James R. Bartzen supposed to be?
Google only recognizes him as the Pheonix Lights dude.

This is smelling more and more like viral marketing or something similar...
So, dude is supposed to be an astrophysicist with the "Russian American Institute of Space Science"...but that doesn't exist, either.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz...art=50&sa=N


How did you hear about this guy, UFOblogger?

they can be U.f.O , but they can be also experimental objects