The pictograms of this season according to my opinion, are very simple in comparison to the crop circles of the past years.
Artistically the 2008 crop circles , are seemed me very a lot of cheap.
Even if I have to say , that some have a good perspective.
The season is not ended yet , therefore it needs to attend.
The agroglifis could perhaps improve ! ! !.
If a crop circle it is very simple , probably it is authentic.
Contrarily, if a crop circle is a lot of complex , probably it is false.

Authentic what? If someone from another civilization wanted to communicate with us why do it with cryptic pictograms in wheat? There a dozens of ways to make a message a lot clearer than that.

The only reason for doing it with cryptic pictograms is to keep it mystical. To make it magic. The method of magic is illusion. To promote false beliefs. To make the purveyer seem more omniscient and omnipitent than they really are. To play our belief systems.

Oh they love us, they really do. Abduct us and take what you want. In return just give us beliefs and illusions. Oh you wonderful aliens.

[quote name='bart5050' date='Jul 14 2008, 01:34 PM' post='363307']
Authentic what?




yes. What you say can be correct.
it is a valid theory.
But I am convinced , that at least the first crop circles were of alien nature.
Now the most greater part of the crop circles are false.
I have seen the crop circles of 2002 English.
The most greater part , they don't have the characteristics.
Many are perfect and upsetting.
But don't have the characteristics.......................

Here, here.

Suppose some are made by aliens. It is the purpose I question. Why communicate in such a cruptic way? Why not say greetings, we are from Zeta here to visit you?

This kind of communication is to play our imaginations. It is to create followers in faith. These are the actions of someone seeking to take advantage. A trick of mirrors. When sleight of hand illusions move off the stage, better keep your hands on your wallet and look before you take a leap of faith.

[quote name='bart5050' date='Jul 23 2008, 03:42 PM' post='364294']





Because you don't believe , but some crop circles can be of alien nature ?
I want only to understand.
I have been in England in 2002.
On 200 crop circles for of a season , of authentic they will be at the most two of it .
But then because on the crop circles English , they continually pass black military helicopters and without plate ?

Believe or not to believe is not the question. I ask you this. Why Crop circles? What are the aliens trying to say with crop circles? What does it inspire you to believe? Why is the message so mysticly criptic?

[quote name='bart5050' date='Jul 23 2008, 08:59 PM' post='364310']




The sacred geometry, the cabalà, the music , the mathematics , the astronomy they are at the base of the crop circles .
There is a lot of mysticism , and a lot of sacredness in the crop circles .
Because I believe that initially , the crop circles they were of alien origin ? They are feelings. The feelings cannot be explained.
I repeat.
Perhaps to today of crop circles authentic , they are not more even one of it.
However , it is the mysticism of the Wiltshire that has struck a lot me.
The crop circles they are marvelo, believe me ! !
There is a motive if the first ones crop circles authentic has appeared in these zones.

Of the emotional impact they can have I agree. I had heard of them but never gave it much thought. Then one day at a friends house I opened a large pictorial book on them. Two of them in the book had an indescribable emotional impact.

I could not describe how or what but felt they were imparting some meaning to me. After contemplating them for some years maybe I've gotten jaded but I am of a different mind set.

Sacred geometry is what exactly? Mysticism? Vague concepts that stir emotion but convey no information. They are like great works of art. If art did not stir emotion it would have no value. Crop circles to me have the value of art. However that the artist has the ability to stir emotion does not say a lot about the artist, his race, or his motivation. I appreciate art, and have a few pieces. I enjoy sculpture and I enjoy creating it. I have worked in wood and metal.

That alien races appreciate art is a commonality of communication that may have the power to bridge the gulf between species. That I would welcome.

However I mistrust them because they remain hidden. Abductions and grand works of art that stir emotion and convey a belief in sacred geometry. It is like a commercial selling a product while the corporation behind it stays hidden and collects the profit.

That they know what stirs our emotion. That they employ this while never revealing who they are, their beliefs, their motivation. Why do they hide? Why do they manipulate from the shadows?

It is too much like a religion. Blind faith is not something I buy into just because someone is a gifted artist. Show me the goods and show me the salesman. It is the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain.

[quote name='bart5050' date='Jul 24 2008, 06:54 AM' post='364348']



What you say is correct.
I share what you say.
What you say is logical.
Because the aliens don't simply say " Hi to all we are here " ? !
Perhaps because us earthlings , we are of the primates in comparison to other very more evolved alien races of us .
We are not on the same temporal plan.
Perhaps it is for this that us earthlings , we cannot understand the messsaggis of the crop circles.
Ps: I am liked a lot the reference to the Wizard of Oz.
I love a lot the Wizard of Oz .