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kalel28
post Jul 15 2008, 08:09 AM
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It is said the black stone (meteroite) fell to earth from another planet which apparently they call the heavens.

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post Jul 15 2008, 11:27 AM
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do you have any more info on it? pics, articles, links, anything? sounds pretty interesting...


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post Jul 15 2008, 02:07 PM
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Because they think that the stone was given to Abraham by god. (Correct me if i am wrong on this)


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post Jul 15 2008, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE (Wodan @ Jul 15 2008, 08:07 PM) *
Because they think that the stone was given to Abraham by god. (Correct me if i am wrong on this)


Your talking about the Ruknu l-Aswad or the Black stone, according to my belief it dates back as far as Adam and Eve, The Stone is said to have come from Heaven and was brought to man as a way of cleansing sins. The stone used to be white and much larger, possibly the size of the Kaaba "The structure where the stone is held" but over the thousands of years many people have fought for the right to possess such a relic and as such the stone was progressively broken into smaller pieces. It's said that anyone who performs the pilgramage of mecca will be cleansed of all sins, if they truly and sincerely wish for it the stone will take the persons sins. According to my belief the stone became black due to the vast sins of man.
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hmmm. so i hope it doesnt have that bathing in old bathwater effect...


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post Jul 15 2008, 09:09 PM
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they should run some tests on it, film it, and put it o the history channel..lol

id watch it.


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post Jul 15 2008, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE (vyrtigo @ Jul 16 2008, 03:09 AM) *
they should run some tests on it, film it, and put it o the history channel..lol

id watch it.


that will never happen.
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post Jul 16 2008, 12:11 AM
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This is just an interesting tid bit, but apparently the Stone also came with two Gold Disks, one is perched on the door of the Kaaba and the other was lost somewhere in the regions desert.
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post Jul 16 2008, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE (Mandelasdiscple @ Jul 16 2008, 12:19 AM) *
that will never happen.


why not?

real gold fears not the test of fire...


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post Jul 17 2008, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE (vyrtigo @ Jul 16 2008, 11:59 PM) *
why not?

real gold fears not the test of fire...


Exactly, REAL gold. At best, it is just one among thousands of meteorites. But it may not be, so they won't have it tested. Men of faith rarely dares to put their faith to the test.


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post Jul 19 2008, 12:30 PM
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Maybe they have mistaken it for a mulberry bush. blink.gif laugh2.gif
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post Jul 23 2008, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE (Wodan @ Jul 17 2008, 10:02 PM) *
Exactly, REAL gold. At best, it is just one among thousands of meteorites. But it may not be, so they won't have it tested. Men of faith rarely dares to put their faith to the test.


If you have faith you have faith, if it could be tested what would be the point of having faith. The test is to test the faith in man. thats what makes religion so interesting, not knowing which is right or wrong, but putting your heart and soul into what you believe.
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post Jul 24 2008, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE (Wodan @ Jul 17 2008, 04:02 PM) *
Men of faith rarely dares to put their faith to the test.




dry.gif Generalizations once again.



Maybe they just do not want you to touch the sacroment [tongue.gif Is that a word] of their religion which they consider holy.

Would you allow someone to dig up your mothers grave, shit on her tomb stone, and take a piece of her body just to disgrace her?
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post Jul 24 2008, 08:16 AM
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There will be no tests. It is a matter of faith. By definition faith requires no proof.
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post Jul 24 2008, 09:52 PM
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well if it was tested and it was found that the faith was untrue than they could stop wasting their believing in stupid shit.
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post Jul 25 2008, 01:30 AM
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QUOTE (Mandelasdiscple @ Jul 24 2008, 09:52 PM) *
well if it was tested and it was found that the faith was untrue than they could stop wasting their believing in stupid shit.




And you believe in aliens...?


I was just watching TV and they were making fun of aliens and that Dr. Edgar who says it's true. They said he was just a old lonely man who needed to have sex.


Most people in society would wish you would stop talking about little lights in the sky and little green men who kill cows because you have no evidence, and it's silly.



I believe their are aliens out there myself. I'm just saying. Maybe you should look at yourself before looking at others.
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post Jul 25 2008, 02:54 AM
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you should follow your own advice alitalia!!! angry.gif
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post Jul 25 2008, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE (macdaddy @ Jul 25 2008, 02:54 AM) *
you should follow your own advice alitalia!!! angry.gif



Perhaps you missed the part where I said I believe there are aliens.


I was just saying. You believing aliens is no different than Muslims believing Allah. So, I don't think you should jump all over Muslims when you are believing aliens...
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post Jul 29 2008, 01:56 AM
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Get with the times people...It's the 21st century and in this century Aliens and Gods are the same thing...Have you not noticed Hollywood and the likes attempting to put the two together?

Obviously that was sarcasm or was it? I can bet 60% of the people on here never thought that our supposed "Gods" could in fact be an alien species...I mean if you saw a being with powers you could only dream of what would you think of it? I personally think that Gods and aliens are one in the same and people just worship them because they are supreme to us...Look at cats and dogs and other pets, I'm sure if we could understand them, we'd see that they worship us because we are bigger and wiser then they are...


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post Jul 29 2008, 02:54 AM
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QUOTE (K-Wurx @ Jul 29 2008, 07:56 AM) *
Get with the times people...It's the 21st century and in this century Aliens and Gods are the same thing...Have you not noticed Hollywood and the likes attempting to put the two together?

Obviously that was sarcasm or was it? I can bet 60% of the people on here never thought that our supposed "Gods" could in fact be an alien species...I mean if you saw a being with powers you could only dream of what would you think of it? I personally think that Gods and aliens are one in the same and people just worship them because they are supreme to us...Look at cats and dogs and other pets, I'm sure if we could understand them, we'd see that they worship us because we are bigger and wiser then they are...


Actually that has been discussed several times here. I think most people have had that idea.


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