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post Jul 17 2008, 07:31 AM
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post Jul 17 2008, 10:31 AM
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youre suppose to talk about experience or a dream and not advertize. Besides i see nothing wrong woth abductions as long as they wont hurt us.
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post Jul 17 2008, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE (juurikas45 @ Jul 17 2008, 09:31 AM) *
youre suppose to talk about experience or a dream and not advertize. Besides i see nothing wrong woth abductions as long as they wont hurt us.



I'm sorry maybe I disagree but how can you say that? Abductions are scarey and oftentimes TRAUMATIZING for people! Of course we can all think what we want but personally...there is something wrong with abductions in my opinion. They could have just asked us for volunteers, but nope, instead thousands of innocent people get KIDNAPPED and expirements performed on. I guess you could call it rape in some cases with the amount of probing that goes on. Heck I don't know. And some people would argue my thinking too because of course we do expirements on animals. Maybe it's just me who knows, but I think as aliens with their advancement in technology could find more ethical ways of doing this. But who am I to say what they consider ethical eh? See that's why I said "maybe I disagree" because it's a sticky subject.


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post Jul 17 2008, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE (sleepingladybug @ Jul 17 2008, 07:47 PM) *
I'm sorry maybe I disagree but how can you say that? Abductions are scarey and oftentimes TRAUMATIZING for people! Of course we can all think what we want but personally...there is something wrong with abductions in my opinion. They could have just asked us for volunteers, but nope, instead thousands of innocent people get KIDNAPPED and expirements performed on. I guess you could call it rape in some cases with the amount of probing that goes on. Heck I don't know. And some people would argue my thinking too because of course we do expirements on animals. Maybe it's just me who knows, but I think as aliens with their advancement in technology could find more ethical ways of doing this. But who am I to say what they consider ethical eh? See that's why I said "maybe I disagree" because it's a sticky subject.

oh, i think i get it now, It is said in my country: DonŽt hurt others or else youŽll suffer twice they did.
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post Jul 18 2008, 02:13 PM
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Right on sleepingldaybug!! Your totally right!

to Ju what ever, get your facts straight before inserting your foot in mouth.
It's not an advertisement dumb ass. It simply a SUPPORT GROUP! DUH


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post Jul 18 2008, 03:47 PM
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Ok, i admit that i was hard on my comment but thats the way i see it at this time, maybe as the time goes on my view will change. All of the stories ive read have been describing only good about the grays. Give me a story with sad ending.

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post Jul 18 2008, 03:53 PM
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my abduction "dream" was cool, i wouldnt call it an abduction, it was more like a non intrusive examination using two lcd screens that overlapped each other, one allowed a view of my internals the other allowed manipulation, it was strange, i dont know how i could come up with this in my head, but then again, i have dreams where massive scores of music that i have never heard before play in my head like some forgotten melody, it would take alot of brainpower to do that, and i definitely cannot do it when im awake, or i wouldnt need a radio...

not a bad experience at all. as a matter of fact, it was quite beautiful, and exciting, the race that got me is a good one, i wouldnt mind serving a benevolent king:)lol i still dont rule out the fact that it couldve been a dream, but its cool to think that i may have been abducted and examined by benevolent aliens, they didnt put any implants in me or anything...

it would seem that their technology is higher then that of aliens that have to use painful intrusive devices and probes...lol.

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post Jul 18 2008, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (vyrtigo @ Jul 19 2008, 12:53 AM) *
my abduction "dream" was cool, i wouldnt call it an abduction, it was more like a non intrusive examination using two lcd screens that overlapped each other, one allowed a view of my internals the other allowed manipulation, it was strange, i dont know how i could come up with this in my head, but then again, i have dreams where massive scores of music that i have never heard before play in my head like some forgotten melody, it would take alot of brainpower to do that, and i definitely cannot do it when im awake, or i wouldnt need a radio...

not a bad experience at all. as a matter of fact, it was quite beautiful, and exciting, the race that got me is a good one, i wouldnt mind serving a benevolent king:)lol i still dont rule out the fact that it couldve been a dream, but its cool to think that i may have been abducted and examined by benevolent aliens, they didnt put any implants in me or anything...

it would seem that their technology is higher then that of aliens that have to use painful intrusive devices and probes...lol.

i read a story exactly like that from somewhere, i believe that you indeed were actually abducted.
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post Jul 19 2008, 05:02 AM
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Maybe you should read more. This is from the UFO's and Abductions by David Jacobs:
Many experiences are traumatic. To be paralyzed, taken to a strange place against one's will, and subjected to intrusive procedures can be enormously disturbing and overwhelming. They feel very alone, isolated, having no one to tell what happened with out the fear of ridicule or being mentally ill. Some undergo a "shock", when they confront the facts fo their experiences. As abductees look more deeply into themselves and their experiences, the quality and meaning of the ETs tend to shift. Some come to see them not as ET's but as spirit guides or guardians whom have a long relationship and who come to them as emissaries of the divine, or what they call home, a place beyond or outside of space and time that is pure light. Words will fail when trying to talk about this. And they come to realize, they feel and have felt an agonizing separation. This seems to have little to do with their religious background.
There are plenty horrifying stories out there. Another in Fire in the sky Travis Walton story. The move freaked me out enough.


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post Jul 19 2008, 08:04 AM
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QUOTE (dak @ Jul 19 2008, 02:02 PM) *
Maybe you should read more. This is from the UFO's and Abductions by David Jacobs:
Many experiences are traumatic. To be paralyzed, taken to a strange place against one's will, and subjected to intrusive procedures can be enormously disturbing and overwhelming. They feel very alone, isolated, having no one to tell what happened with out the fear of ridicule or being mentally ill. Some undergo a "shock", when they confront the facts fo their experiences. As abductees look more deeply into themselves and their experiences, the quality and meaning of the ETs tend to shift. Some come to see them not as ET's but as spirit guides or guardians whom have a long relationship and who come to them as emissaries of the divine, or what they call home, a place beyond or outside of space and time that is pure light. Words will fail when trying to talk about this. And they come to realize, they feel and have felt an agonizing separation. This seems to have little to do with their religious background.
There are plenty horrifying stories out there. Another in Fire in the sky Travis Walton story. The move freaked me out enough.

Well, your story has convinced my opinion but i will believe it once i go through it myself.

I will tell you a personal story if you will(not an encounter). When i was little (5-8 or so) i heard of these so-called aliens and some of their crafts from television(news and such). i also liked (and still like) astronomy. Always when i was out of the house i always thought whats up there, i finally got the answer thanks to some of the sites.I always wished for an alien encounter (at that time it was the greys but now my choice is human type aliens) because there is always something pulling me to the stars.
One of my most important wishes is that i would have an alien encounter with either norics or pleiadians.
The reason for that to be so is that i hate this plant to the bottom of my heart. The people are mean here, that goes for my father and brother too. Another reason why i hate this planet would be pollution and primitive industry technology.

The reason why i said so in the beginning was that i want an alien encounter.

No im not mentally disturbed if you think so.

*sigh*

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post Jul 21 2008, 02:12 AM
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QUOTE (sleepingladybug @ Jul 17 2008, 04:47 PM) *
I'm sorry maybe I disagree but how can you say that? Abductions are scarey and oftentimes TRAUMATIZING for people! Of course we can all think what we want but personally...there is something wrong with abductions in my opinion. They could have just asked us for volunteers, but nope, instead thousands of innocent people get KIDNAPPED and expirements performed on. I guess you could call it rape in some cases with the amount of probing that goes on. Heck I don't know. And some people would argue my thinking too because of course we do expirements on animals. Maybe it's just me who knows, but I think as aliens with their advancement in technology could find more ethical ways of doing this. But who am I to say what they consider ethical eh? See that's why I said "maybe I disagree" because it's a sticky subject.


No, I would NEVER argue with that! In most cases, I would consider alien abduction being more disturbing and mentally traumatizing than that of "human abductions." Imagine being captured, tortured, and/or raped by ANOTHER life form, one which some people may not even believe in until that even? *cringe* Horrible. ugh.gif


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