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post Jul 19 2008, 04:34 PM
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Here is an interesting article.


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...otos/index.html

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post Jul 20 2008, 05:27 AM
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you must have forgotten to copy the new link, lol, i do that all the time, or i'll just forget the link completely.


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http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...otos/index.html
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post Aug 15 2008, 07:45 PM
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Just about everything in biology and science in general contradicts "intelligent design".


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post Aug 15 2008, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE (Wodan @ Aug 15 2008, 09:45 PM) *
Just about everything in biology and science in general confirms "intelligent design".




Fixed.
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post Aug 16 2008, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE (The Fleet Admiral @ Aug 16 2008, 04:26 AM) *
Fixed.

Like what? give me one example, just one.


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post Aug 16 2008, 09:22 PM
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Even if we were created by an intelligent being (god or whoever) that doesn't mean we wouldn't evolve over time.
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post Aug 17 2008, 07:26 AM
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QUOTE (Wodan @ Aug 17 2008, 01:09 AM) *
Like what? give me one example, just one.


How about the Bumble Bee? According to the Laws of Aerodynamics this creature should not be able to fly because, "its wings are too small and its body is too large and heavy".

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post Aug 17 2008, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE (JUSTVISITING @ Aug 17 2008, 01:26 PM) *
How about the Bumble Bee? According to the Laws of Aerodynamics this creature should not be able to fly because, "its wings are too small and its body is too large and heavy".


Not true at all. There where some who believed it, but most scientist ruled it out. It did not take long before they found it that the angle of the wings was what allowed it to fly with hat small wings.


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QUOTE (Wodan @ Aug 16 2008, 08:09 PM) *
Like what? give me one example, just one.



Sure. Just walk outside, open your eyes, look all around you at everything that is not man made.

But since I know you are willingly ignorant (don't take offence, it's an accurate description), I can prove it to you 100% beyond any doubt. You will say "Yes, I see now, it is true." Would you like to take me up on that offer? Let me know, and just give me a little time.
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post Aug 18 2008, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE (The Fleet Admiral @ Aug 18 2008, 01:07 AM) *
Sure. Just walk outside, open your eyes, look all around you at everything that is not man made.

But since I know you are willingly ignorant (don't take offence, it's an accurate description), I can prove it to you 100% beyond any doubt. You will say "Yes, I see now, it is true." Would you like to take me up on that offer? Let me know, and just give me a little time.


Ill take you up on that offer, sure. But if you are referring Kent Hovind, as i can assume by your "willingly ignorant" quote (Yes, I have seen his "lectures" all 17 hours of them on Freehovind.com) then you should think twice, most of what he is claiming is utter lies, he is nothing but a deceiver.


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QUOTE (Wodan @ Aug 18 2008, 11:49 AM) *
Ill take you up on that offer, sure. But if you are referring Kent Hovind, as i can assume by your "willingly ignorant" quote (Yes, I have seen his "lectures" all 17 hours of them on Freehovind.com) then you should think twice, most of what he is claiming is utter lies, he is nothing but a deceiver.



No has nothing to do with Kent Hovind. I will prove it to you. Would you allow me a little time? Then even you will say it is beyond any doubt and you will humbly admit you were wrong.
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post Aug 18 2008, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE (The Fleet Admiral @ Aug 18 2008, 10:54 PM) *
No has nothing to do with Kent Hovind. I will prove it to you. Would you allow me a little time? Then even you will say it is beyond any doubt and you will humbly admit you were wrong.

Of course. Go ahead.


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QUOTE (Wodan @ Aug 18 2008, 07:06 PM) *
Of course. Go ahead.



Absolutely, thanks for accepting. Would you allow me just a bit of time? Now don't laugh or mock me, this is absolutely serious. You will, beyond any doubt, know that God exists and that His name is Jesus Christ, and that He is and always has been the One and only True God. You will also confess, with your own tongue, that He is the Father (Jehovah, YHWH, etc.) and the Holy Spirit, all three one. Not only that, but you will want to proclaim it to everyone you know and don't know. I guarantee you all of this, if you are willing to give me just a little bit of time. Now, before I do this, I would like to make sure you can even comprehend what I have said so far, so please indulge me, how old are you?
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post Aug 18 2008, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE (The Fleet Admiral @ Aug 19 2008, 02:27 AM) *
Absolutely, thanks for accepting. Would you allow me just a bit of time? Now don't laugh or mock me, this is absolutely serious. You will, beyond any doubt, know that God exists and that His name is Jesus Christ, and that He is and always has been the One and only True God. You will also confess, with your own tongue, that He is the Father (Jehovah, YHWH, etc.) and the Holy Spirit, all three one. Not only that, but you will want to proclaim it to everyone you know and don't know. I guarantee you all of this, if you are willing to give me just a little bit of time. Now, before I do this, I would like to make sure you can even comprehend what I have said so far, so please indulge me, how old are you?


Very well, take all the time you need.
I am 21.


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TFA posts: You will, beyond any doubt, know that God exists and that His name is Jesus Christ, and that He is and always has been the One and only True God. You will also confess, with your own tongue, that He is the Father (Jehovah, YHWH, etc.) and the Holy Spirit, all three one. Not only that, but you will want to proclaim it to everyone you know and don't know. I guarantee you all of this, if you are willing to give me just a little bit of time.
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QUOTE (rorechof @ Aug 19 2008, 03:11 AM) *
TFA posts: You will, beyond any doubt, know that God exists and that His name is Jesus Christ, and that He is and always has been the One and only True God. You will also confess, with your own tongue, that He is the Father (Jehovah, YHWH, etc.) and the Holy Spirit, all three one. Not only that, but you will want to proclaim it to everyone you know and don't know. I guarantee you all of this, if you are willing to give me just a little bit of time.
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Nono, I definitely want to hear this.


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QUOTE (Wodan @ Aug 19 2008, 03:59 AM) *
Very well, take all the time you need.
I am 21.



QUOTE (rorechof @ Aug 19 2008, 04:11 AM) *
TFA posts: You will, beyond any doubt, know that God exists and that His name is Jesus Christ, and that He is and always has been the One and only True God. You will also confess, with your own tongue, that He is the Father (Jehovah, YHWH, etc.) and the Holy Spirit, all three one. Not only that, but you will want to proclaim it to everyone you know and don't know. I guarantee you all of this, if you are willing to give me just a little bit of time.
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Hey TFA, even if Wodan doesn’t want to hear it, I certainly will pay attention! ~rore


I agree with Wodan and Rore, i'd like to hear what you have....


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post Aug 19 2008, 06:40 PM
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Very well, thanks for the interest. I'm going to have to assume that you all are understanding adults. Wodan, thanks for letting me know your age. Now, this is not a joke or a mockery to you. This is 100% serious and 100% indisputable. Not only will those who do not believe, believe, but even many who believe will also realize that they got some things wrong.

If you flame me for this, it is your choice, but I am completely sober in telling you this. Here goes:

Give me just 100 years. That is the time I need. The reason for this minute amount of time is to ensure that your life on this earth finishes its course. It is doubtful any of you will be alive 100 years from now, possible, but doubtful. If the end of the earth has not come and if medical science has found a way to keep us alive way over 100 yrs old then you will just have to wait until you die here.

Now, in 100 years, after is said and done, I want you to just look over my way and give me a nod or wink of acknowledgement after you find out the truth and have confessed the Lord Jesus Christ with your own tongues. Certainly try not to pull a muscle getting up from bowing your knee to the Lord, go ahead and get up slowly, you will have the rest of eternity to remember me and others like me, and even this thread- believe it or not.

Just 100 years, that's all I ask. I have not been sarcastic or nasty with you in this discussion, I am not joking around. In just 100 short years you will see and believe. Then you can tell me "Man, TFA, you were right, I apologize." And I'm sure I'll respond something like, "Hey, no problem, sorry I was so empassioned and downright rude about it sometimes, but now you see why it was so important."

Whether we part company after that or head to the same place is completely up to you now. I'm not going to preach to you, you have probably had that already or know who would preach to you. All I'm asking for is 100 years, and it will be proven to you such that you will agree that whatever eternal state you are in at that time is true and just. In the mean time, I will endeavor not to be insulting or offensive, making childish statements like "All atheists are ..." or "All agnostics are..." or whatever. All I ask, while we wait, is that you afford me the same courtesy. If I found you injured at the side of the road I would certainly do everything I could to help you, and hope you would do the same for me. In that, there is no reason for the hate, the slurs, the stereotyping or the name-calling.

So there we are, I am not going to present the same old argument of "If you're right, then I have nothing to worry about but if I'm right, then you are in for a hot destination." All I ask for is 100 years, then you tell me, ok?

Thanks for your time.

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