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post Jul 21 2008, 11:26 PM
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I don't know about anyone else, but the second I saw the preview for the new X-Files movie I can't help but think that the Government might have something to do with it. I've heard of a few ideas that we might have an official encounter around 2012 with aliens, and that from now until we do, we are going to experience a gradual incline of events that will lead up to the main encounter. Does anyone else feel that this movie could be an influence by the Government to slowly ease the general public into a welcoming mindset? I mean seriously... the title is "The X-Files: I Want to Believe". I think if something like this does happen in the future it would be the best thing for our race. It would end a lot of the war due to religion. What are your thoughts on this?

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QUOTE (adub @ Jul 21 2008, 11:26 PM) *
- I don't know about anyone else, but the second I saw the preview for the new X-Files movie I can't help but think that the Government might have something to do with it.


-I've heard of a few ideas that we might have an official encounter around 2012 with aliens


- Does anyone else feel that this movie could be an influence by the Government to slowly ease the general public into a welcoming mindset?


- It would end a lot of the war due to religion. What are your thoughts on this?



- The government does not have anything to do with it.

- I have heard billions of ideas that somthing majour will happen in 2012.

- No. That preview did not give a "welcoming mindset." At all...

- Religion is not causing a lot of wars in this day and age. Yes, tis true corrupt regimes in the middle east are playing puppet with religion, I'll give you that much. However, do you think if they found out Allah does not exist that they wouldn't still want to make life suck for us first teir countries? Most wars did not involve religion. WWI, WWII, Cold War, Spanish civil war, American civil war, American revolution, French revolution, Russo-Jap war, Balkans war, etc. come to mind.

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post Jul 22 2008, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE (Alitalia @ Jul 22 2008, 04:41 PM) *
...................- Religion is not causing a lot of wars in this day and age. Yes, tis true corrupt regimes in the middle east are playing puppet with religion, I'll give you that much. However, do you think if they found out Allah does not exist that they wouldn't still want to make life suck for us first teir countries?
So you don't think religion (christianity) has any influence on politics, world events and so on smile.gif, indirectly influencing some of our worlds conflict? Christianity has caused as much bloodshed on this planet as any religion, probably more.
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post Jul 22 2008, 12:53 AM
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QUOTE (Dundee @ Jul 22 2008, 12:46 AM) *
So you don't think religion (christianity) has any influence on politics, world events and so on smile.gif, indirectly influencing some of our worlds conflict? Christianity has caused as much bloodshed on this planet as any religion, probably more.


I, out of the respect for the user who made this thread, will not discuss religion as it has nothing to do with the subject. But, no, I do not think WWI, WWII, etc. was because of Christianity.



Toleration is the main driving force behind so many wars. Whether it be religion, skin colour, nationality, political platform, or nationalism. It all has to do with toleration. If we could all just tolerate one another, these wars would have been avoided.

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post Jul 22 2008, 02:00 AM
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toleration??? that's bollocks..ignorance, greed and religion cause wars.Did hitler tolerate the jews,did the allies tolerate hitler.no to both.toleration is a form of patience,being able to put up with somthing, nothing to do with war.Every war has had RELIGION or BELIEF at its heart.
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post Jul 22 2008, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE (macdaddy @ Jul 22 2008, 02:00 AM) *
toleration??? that's bollocks..ignorance, greed and religion cause wars.Did hitler tolerate the jews,did the allies tolerate hitler.no to both.toleration is a form of patience,being able to put up with somthing, nothing to do with war.Every war has had RELIGION or BELIEF at its heart.


Exactly but this thread isn't based on religion. So back to the original question please...
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post Jul 22 2008, 09:00 AM
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adub you reading to much into it but you know hollywood doesn't need the government to put movies that are meant to open your eyes (or in most cases close them) don't underestimate the power of californication.

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post Jul 22 2008, 10:02 AM
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I personally believe that our government has some agenda with the public media; to gently nudge us into accepting ideas, to sway opinions, to cause prejudice towards certain ideas/situations, ect... So, according to my personal beliefs, I see it as entirely possible that the government has some involvement with what is being shown in The X-Files: I Want To Believe. I see no substantial reason to believe so, but I would never rule it out.


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we are going to experience a gradual incline of events that will lead up to the main encounter. Does anyone else feel that this movie could be an influence by the Government to slowly ease the general public into a welcoming mindset?


If I understand you correctly, you believe that this movie is helping us accept the idea of an alien invasion/encounter? And you think that this would be BEST for us? I have to disagree. I think the main reason that our government has so many cover-up's is to keep the public from having an outburst of panic and chaos. No movie can help that. And how exactly could a world-wide alien encounter help the issues with religion? The radicals will always have their own conflicts, and they can always find a way to twist the existence of aliens and/or their visit into a religious battle...


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post Jul 22 2008, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE (GrabThyHand @ Jul 22 2008, 10:02 AM) *
I personally believe that our government has some agenda with the public media; to gently nudge us into accepting ideas, to sway opinions, to cause prejudice towards certain ideas/situations, ect... So, according to my personal beliefs, I see it as entirely possible that the government has some involvement with what is being shown in The X-Files: I Want To Believe. I see no substantial reason to believe so, but I would never rule it out.




If I understand you correctly, you believe that this movie is helping us accept the idea of an alien invasion/encounter? And you think that this would be BEST for us? I have to disagree. I think the main reason that our government has so many cover-up's is to keep the public from having an outburst of panic and chaos. No movie can help that. And how exactly could a world-wide alien encounter help the issues with religion? The radicals will always have their own conflicts, and they can always find a way to twist the existence of aliens and/or their visit into a religious battle...



Yes there would be an outburst if there are not gradual events that happen before an official encounter... like if an official encounter happened today, because a lot of people are not ready for it right now. I personally feel that it would not be an invasion, but more of a global enlightenment. My point is that a global encounter of enlightenment would show us that we are not as unique as we would like to think we are, and also cancel out almost all of religion (as we currently know it), mainly in the middle east, which would lead us closer to being a unified type 1 civilization. Chances are a higher civilization than us has the answers that we have been looking for.

Again though, I didn't start this thread to debate religion, I just felt that it would be an effect from an official encounter. Another factor that leads me to believe the Government has some kind of influence in this is that a new X-Files movie just pops up out of no where after how many years...10!?

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QUOTE (adub @ Jul 22 2008, 05:26 AM) *
I don't know about anyone else, but the second I saw the preview for the new X-Files movie I can't help but think that the Government might have something to do with it. I've heard of a few ideas that we might have an official encounter around 2012 with aliens, and that from now until we do, we are going to experience a gradual incline of events that will lead up to the main encounter. Does anyone else feel that this movie could be an influence by the Government to slowly ease the general public into a welcoming mindset? I mean seriously... the title is "The X-Files: I Want to Believe". I think if something like this does happen in the future it would be the best thing for our race. It would end a lot of the war due to religion. What are your thoughts on this?


Dude, it's movie. Thats it!
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post Jul 22 2008, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE (adub @ Jul 22 2008, 04:23 PM) *
Yes there would be an outburst if there are not gradual events that happen before an official encounter... like if an official encounter happened today, because a lot of people are not ready for it right now. I personally feel that it would not be an invasion, but more of a global enlightenment. My point is that a global encounter of enlightenment would show us that we are not as unique as we would like to think we are, and also cancel out almost all of religion (as we currently know it), mainly in the middle east, which would lead us closer to being a unified type 1 civilization. Chances are a higher civilization than us has the answers that we have been looking for.

Again though, I didn't start this thread to debate religion, I just felt that it would be an effect from an official encounter. Another factor that leads me to believe the Government has some kind of influence in this is that a new X-Files movie just pops up out of no where after how many years...10!?


But people are ignorant and afraid. Both of those factors make us humans react is stupid and sometimes terrible ways. Even if MOST of us could accept global contact with aliens (in a peaceful manner), there would still be those who simply can't handle it. There would be riots against the aliens themselves, protests against supporters, ect.

If anything, I have a feeling the new X-Files popped up to gain some more money; Lord knows it will gross a lot with the old fans and alien/paranormal nuts!


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And, although anyone is entitled to their own opinions, the best statement any one could make to reveal their anger-based ignorance that all wars were over religion. I guanrantee that if you invade my country (in this case, my property/home) I will shoot you like a dog and it will have nothing to do with your religion or mine. Those who repeat this "religion=war" mantra have no brain, I'm sorry. And please don't lump Christianity in with the Roman Catholic church, who, under the banner of false religion is the one responsible for the inquisition and the great number of atrocities of history. True Christianity has nothing to do with the Catholic pagans and has NEVER advocated any war. On the contrary: learn your history: it has always been the CHRISTIANS (Not catholics) who have been jailed for being pacifists and refusing to kill their fellow man in war.
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The x-files movie being a gov.t project is wishful thinking at best.
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post Jul 22 2008, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE (The Fleet Admiral @ Jul 22 2008, 05:36 PM) *
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And, although anyone is entitled to their own opinions, the best statement any one could make to reveal their anger-based ignorance that all wars were over religion. I guanrantee that if you invade my country (in this case, my property/home) I will shoot you like a dog and it will have nothing to do with your religion or mine. Those who repeat this "religion=war" mantra have no brain, I'm sorry. And please don't lump Christianity in with the Roman Catholic church, who, under the banner of false religion is the one responsible for the inquisition and the great number of atrocities of history. True Christianity has nothing to do with the Catholic pagans and has NEVER advocated any war. On the contrary: learn your history: it has always been the CHRISTIANS (Not catholics) who have been jailed for being pacifists and refusing to kill their fellow man in war.
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The x-files movie being a gov.t project is wishful thinking at best.

I never said I thought it was a government project, I said I think the government might have some influence. I think the government definitely has a role in what the general media sees and believes.

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QUOTE (adub @ Jul 23 2008, 12:51 AM) *
I never said I thought it was a government project, I said I think the government might have some influence. I think the government definitely has a role in what the general media sees and believes.


I wouldn't say they ALWAYS conduct it; there has to be a certain amount of "popular" themes going simply to make money, some of which may have no government agenda behind them (e.i. teenage slasher flicks).

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QUOTE (adub @ Jul 22 2008, 05:26 AM) *
I don't know about anyone else, but the second I saw the preview for the new X-Files movie I can't help but think that the Government might have something to do with it. I've heard of a few ideas that we might have an official encounter around 2012 with aliens, and that from now until we do, we are going to experience a gradual incline of events that will lead up to the main encounter. Does anyone else feel that this movie could be an influence by the Government to slowly ease the general public into a welcoming mindset? I mean seriously... the title is "The X-Files: I Want to Believe". I think if something like this does happen in the future it would be the best thing for our race. It would end a lot of the war due to religion. What are your thoughts on this?


I don't think so. BUT Chris Carter did draw much of his story line from the government-ufo-conspiracy genre that many of us have followed for so many years...so its certainly understandable that it may seem so.
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post Jul 22 2008, 08:38 PM
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Of course the government has something to do with it. IT'S A MOVIE.

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GREED is the main cause of wars, then religion.


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A world without organized religion would have one less thing over which to fight about.

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A world without organized schools would have one less thing over which to fight about.
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having a an extra sky tv box in a seperate room is one less thing to fight about.
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