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post Jul 27 2008, 08:10 AM
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alien or military technology?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxPf4hQ8aWQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVFsqJ-If9s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEDInwR1gL4


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post Jul 27 2008, 02:47 PM
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post Jul 27 2008, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE (cydonia @ Jul 27 2008, 02:10 PM) *

Hello there.

Got that in English?
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post Jul 28 2008, 02:17 AM
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Caronia is a small country of 39 inhabitants, that is found in the south depth of Italy .
Caronia is found on the sea.
To Caronia from 2004 upsetting and anxious things happen.
Appliances and counters of electricity spontaneously catch fire.
There are short inexplicable circuits.
The houses spontaneously catch fire.
The boats spontaneously catch fire.
The automobiles spontaneously catch fire.
The I phone cellular they are reloaded alone without being connected to the electric tide.
The houses have become microwaves ovens.
They are all phenomenons of self - combustion .
The electric threads spontaneously catch fire.
The metallic objects overheat him without motive up to cause fires.
All spontaneously sets on fire him without current.
They catch fire beds, couches, chairs, tables, televisions, threads voters, chandeliers.
The electric threads that are detached by the walls, catch alone fire.
The automobiles are closed alone.
The cellular telephones ring alone but nobody is receiving and nobody is calling there are tall values of electromagnetic fields in the ground.
Conclusions: The most greater scientists of the world have studied the Caronia case.
The conclusions of the scientists are resounding
: Alien
or military technologies also evolved of origin not earthling.

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post Sep 26 2008, 10:31 PM
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cydonia.....I like the clips from the movie "Independence Day"....I never saw anything else of interest.....sorry.
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post Sep 27 2008, 02:49 PM
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cydonia.....I like the clips from the movie "Independence Day"....I never saw anything else of interest.....sorry.





Caronia is one of the upsetting cases of the last years.
If for you it is not interesting it means that my English is not clear.
The scientists of the whole world have studied the Caronia case........


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post Sep 27 2008, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE (cydonia @ Sep 27 2008, 08:49 PM) *


Caronia is one of the upsetting cases of the last years.
If for you it is not interesting it means that my English is not clear.
The scientists of the whole world have studied the Caronia case........


cydonia.....it just doesn't seem as if there is anything un-natural....except for perhaps a bad record of fire safety.....maybe reports of the worlds scientists..(in english)...would clear things up
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post Sep 27 2008, 06:37 PM
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I recall this subject was posted about a year ago here.
The links I believe were in English anyway.
It did sound very strange to me.

If the links provided here, were in English, it would be most helpful.


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post Sep 27 2008, 06:43 PM
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Here is an old report:

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Sicily's Mysterious Village Fires
Is Lucifer loose on Sicily? No lesser figure than the honorary president of the International Association of Exorcists believes he may be. "What is happening is what normally happens when the devil enters the lives of those who let him in," Father Gabriele Amorth said yesterday as...
Is Lucifer loose on Sicily? No lesser figure than the honorary president of the International Association of Exorcists believes he may be.

"What is happening is what normally happens when the devil enters the lives of those who let him in," Father Gabriele Amorth said yesterday as scientists and officials confessed themselves unable to explain a string of fires and explosions which began in the middle of last month in the fishermen's quarter of a Sicilian village.

Thirty-nine inhabitants of Caronia, on the north coast, were preparing to spend their third night away from their homes last night, having been evacuated at the weekend.

Since then, in an operation that could have come straight from the television series X Files, a multi-disciplinary team of experts armed with measuring devices has been examining the area for clues to the spontaneous combustion of washing machines, dishwashers, refrigerators, electricity meters and cables.

Gianfranco Allegra, of the Italian Centre for Electro-technical Experimentation, told the newspaper Corriere della Sera that he had watched as "an electrical wire lying on the floor that was not plugged in to the mains inexplicably caught fire". When he reported the incident to his superiors in Milan he was told to sober up.

What makes the incidents all the more puzzling is that the area has been without an electricity supply since January 4.

On Monday the affair took a new turn when a chair burst into flames. Then a fire started in a water pipe.

The mayor of Caronia, Pedro Spinnato, said yesterday: "I have no idea what is going on."

He believed that arson had been ruled out.

Tullio Martella, the regional civil defence chief, said the fires and blasts seemed to derive "from a dispersion of electrical energy, but the origin of the presumed dispersion has yet to be determined".

The houses in which the fires have broken out are all in an area 350 metres (about 380 yards) by 70 metres between the shoreline and a railway.

At first suspicion centred on the railway line, but that has now been discounted.

Yesterday technicians were busy measuring emissions from local mobile telephone facilities.

But Fr Amorth said they should not rule out vibes of a different sort.

"The priest of the parish ought today to go and bless all the houses that have witnessed paranormal phenomena, because that is what they are," he said.


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post Sep 28 2008, 07:58 AM
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QUOTE (SOUL-DRIFTER @ Sep 28 2008, 12:43 AM) *
Here is an old report:


SD.....thanks....IMO proximaty to Mount Etna and its underground magma chambers is a likely possibility.
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post Sep 28 2008, 08:03 AM
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Curious, Castle.
How could underground magma chambers, cause what has been reported?


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post Sep 28 2008, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE (SOUL-DRIFTER @ Sep 28 2008, 02:03 PM) *
Curious, Castle.
How could underground magma chambers, cause what has been reported?


SD....it could cause superheating of the subsurface soils which could potentially impact an antiquated electrical system.....since the electrical system has been updated the fires have stopped and the small portion of the town have not had any further problems.

I wonder what the subsurface temps are in that area..... blink.gif

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post Sep 28 2008, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE (Castle-Bravo354 @ Sep 28 2008, 10:21 AM) *
SD....it could cause superheating of the subsurface soils which could potentially impact an antiquated electrical system.....since the electrical system has been updated the fires have stopped and the small portion of the town have not had any further problems.

I wonder what the subsurface temps are in that area..... blink.gif


I understand. But I still have a hard time seeing how that explanation could account for this: Gianfranco Allegra, of the Italian Centre for Electro-technical Experimentation, told the newspaper Corriere della Sera that he had watched as "an electrical wire lying on the floor that was not plugged in to the mains inexplicably caught fire".


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post Sep 28 2008, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE (SOUL-DRIFTER @ Sep 28 2008, 10:38 PM) *
I understand. But I still have a hard time seeing how that explanation could account for this: Gianfranco Allegra, of the Italian Centre for Electro-technical Experimentation, told the newspaper Corriere della Sera that he had watched as "an electrical wire lying on the floor that was not plugged in to the mains inexplicably caught fire".


SD.....this case is harder to explain....unless it was an extension cord......maybe heated ground isn't the main cause.....but add it in with corrosion from the ocean.....(the med), the age of the electrical system and I'd wager the environmental impact from the rail line are a likely cause......as it was a very confined and small portion of the town. I just think there is a natural explanation......and that aliens and or the military likely have nothing to do with it.

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QUOTE (Castle-Bravo354 @ Sep 28 2008, 07:13 PM) *
SD.....this case is harder to explain....unless it was an extension cord......maybe heated ground isn't the main cause.....but add it in with corrosion from the ocean.....(the med), the age of the electrical system and I'd wager the environmental impact from the rail line are a likely cause......as it was a very confined and small portion of the town. I just think there is a natural explanation......and that aliens and or the military likely have nothing to do with it.

I agree with you.
I just can not find one to explain all the reports.


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post Sep 29 2008, 08:17 AM
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QUOTE (SOUL-DRIFTER @ Sep 29 2008, 01:47 PM) *
I agree with you.
I just can not find one to explain all the reports.


SD.....good point.....in close to 30 years of working with causes and effects between humans and Mother Nature.....there seldom is a single cause
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I think it would be safe to assume, that unconnected wires that somehow conduct enough energy to cause the insulation to start to burn, must be under the influence of some highly focused EM or microwaves. It would account for all instances of electrical items coming on or overheating and causing a fire.


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post Sep 29 2008, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE (SOUL-DRIFTER @ Sep 29 2008, 02:25 PM) *
I think it would be safe to assume, that unconnected wires that somehow conduct enough energy to cause the insulation to start to burn, must be under the influence of some highly focused EM or microwaves. It would account for all instances of electrical items coming on or overheating and causing a fire.


SD......I don't think there is enough information to say for sure what happened.....and speculation doesn't help and often distracts from what is a more likely cause.

I have seen a extension cord with one end unplugged catch fire in a damp environment.
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SD......I don't think there is enough information to say for sure what happened.....and speculation doesn't help and often distracts from what is a more likely cause.

I have seen a extension cord with one end unplugged catch fire in a damp environment.


But what if all power was turned off?

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QUOTE (SOUL-DRIFTER @ Sep 29 2008, 02:50 PM) *
But what if all power was turned off?


SD....if the power was off the problem should not have been eletrical......unless it retained its charge some how.

But as I have said before.....it was in a very small confined portion of town and I find it was likely something quite natural....especially since there has been no further fires since the electrical system in the area was updated.

Also there is not enough information to go beyond speculation.

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