If there are aliens visiting and the governments and authorities,realise that sooner or later if they don't do somthing to inform joe public, maybe the visitors will.but will they be straight with us?Will the media orchestrate the whole event.will there be a summit with the aliens...will they appear on Oprah.Or will the governments have no say,or get no warning.

yeah right.

Anyway, It should be up to our government to release the information and "aliens" should respect out governments.

The visitors pull the strings to get full disclosure.
It will probably be a message done by world leaders standing next to a human looking visitor.
Disclosure about alien visitations, will be complete.
Will anything else be disclosed? Who knows.

if your not the one running things you will never get to know it all.

i feel it will be like independance day..without the fireworks.they will communicate with us through every T.V,radio,phones ,computers and tannoys simultaneously.the goverments panic they cannot intercept the message,or stop it.The aliens say they have been watching and are not impressed with our wasteful ways and wars,we must change our ways(they will help)or be replaced by a more worthy civilisations that worship there own being and planet,becuase without it none of us exist.

To be honest, I don't think the day will ever come. If there are aliens visiting, then it will be hidden. If anything, then it will not be revealed until the world is under full control by the ones in power. Because it doesn't matter what people know then.

good point.

but then again thats assuming the powers that be are pure evil, and self centered.

okay... good point.

This post has been edited by vyrtigo: Aug 5 2008, 01:44 PM

of course... we would be lied to about it either way.

IF disclosure occurs there would be a hidden agenda. it would most certainly be some sort of false flag operation. disclosure wouldn't occur until that big of lie was need to obfuscate another lie of grander scale or something more sinister.

even if there really were alien entities involved, the big picture wouldn't be revealed. our own leaders would still treat the public like retarded stepchildren. (and probably rightly so.)

the government, especially military never fully discloses anything importnt. im pretty sure thats not an exaggeration.

if we were told today, it would probably mean that its been a reality for more than 50 years. but some critical information would be witheld.

people are waiting for an honest answer from agencies that have been lying for longer than most of us have been alive.

...and... even if we are told there is an alien threat, by alien it would be meant enemy, and by enemy it would be meant a human element. most likley.

the press is known to "manufacture" truth. it would be an instrumental tool in such an operation, and of course would take cues from government agencies.

personally i think 'disclosure' will involve a rather boring press release full of information most of us already have access to. some of it might be confirmed as "ours" or "theirs". nothing else will be confirmed. this would probably be as exiciting as it gets. we would be told that nothing is known of them. officials may admit to actually monitoring ufo activity, but that would be about it. several nations have released their "x-files", nothing spectactular really. When or if the US does, surely it will be just as plain. most ufo activity can probably be attributed to our own design, but that won't get mentioned.

i agree with Wodan. its all about control.

we would be lied to about a fictional alien enemy before being told the truth about a real one.

no offense, but speak for yourself abadaka, i am no one's retarded stepchild, and refuse to be treated like one.

it is exactly this kind of mentality that makes governments think that they can do what they please with the lives of their people. (retarded stepchildren)

it is unacceptable, and irresponsible. with great power comes great responsiblity, yet the people with the great power, have a sense of responsiblity comparable of four year olds.

I think its a joke.

we the people, are the ones who supply the dictators with the very power that they use to bind us. what a sick joke.

and the funny thing is, we are all happy about it. because that is the way THEY want it to be...

im twenty four, and the people who surround me, my peers and elders are about 70 percent complete mindless idiots. They are like this because their view on the world is so narrow. To them life is so simple, eat, drink, work, school, or military. they dont ask questions, they dont ask themselves why they want to join the military, they dont ask themselves what they want in life. they follow the scent of money. they follow the sound of approval. they have no dreams or higher aspirations. they have no hope in changing the world, or contributing to society other then paying taxes.

they dont question their religions, they dont question their existence, they have no purpose, they follow orders mindlessly, for money. they have no individuality, they are so concerned about impressing people that they never truly make anything out of themselves.

it goes on and on. and why are the people like this?

because they are treated like retarded stepchildren.

and i for one, am not expendable, a guinea pig, or a mindless drone. even thought that is what society wants me to be. i refuse to follow the ways of evil, deception, opression, and de-evolution.

i would rather die, then to shed the blood of the innocent.



This post has been edited by vyrtigo: Aug 8 2008, 08:29 AM

Ditto.

The big problrm with society as a whole, is our lack of ability to stand together. It shows big time when the time is for people to stand together for something, a boycott, strike or the like. How well do they work? Usually, not-worth-a-shit! Because people fail to stand together when it is needed. Those that drop out, always has some excuse. I don't want any trouble.... I do not have the time... I can not afford it... We're not going to get anywhere anyway....., always something. The government know this and fear not, any public unity to force anything from them.
Too many weak links in the chain.

i agree,

people like this, have no sense of duty, they live in fear, squat in their shelters, and cross their fingers, hoping that things will change.

as humans, and as the masters of our own destiny, i feel it is our duty to uphold humanity in its highest states of justice and virtue. if we dont, then humanity will fall apart. simple as that.

this includes questioning all things at all times, in times of great deception. and being able to stand together, for the simple fact that, thats how it should be...

This post has been edited by vyrtigo: Aug 8 2008, 09:10 AM

Which lie are they going by.

Right now the Illuminati have people that lied they went to the Moon that
they know Aliens exist.

Will the first man made UFO on the White House lawn be re engineered from
alien crashes or from Tesla.

If the Illuminati is giving up the Tesla lies they might as go all the way
with the rest of their lies.

Like the government knows anything really...

Honestly, I don't think the government has all this knowledge. They have the items, maybe, but have never actually made contact. That's my opinion anyways.

This is what I think:

The government isn't revealing anything because it doesn't know anything. It doesn't understand the stuff that it found and won't reveal information that might be wrong if it could start a panic. Causing a panic about false information would really do more harm than help, so until they know for sure the government will keep quiet.

More so, I think that when the aliens appear, it'd be like first contacts here. Physical contact, in which they find us and do whatever they want, and if we don't like it we try to kill them so they don't keep coming.

It'll be like when the Europeans came to America and found the Indians. They used the Indians, the Indians found out. Then, the Indians got mad. Then war started.

It'll be like that basically, if you ask me.

The government will be as surprised as everyone else. Except they might have had knowledge they were out there, but other than that they'll be surprised. Then we'll get mad and try kick the aliens all the way back to Mars or wherever they came from.

wow,

i disagree. totally

July 19th, 1953 visit to the HILL, I think there was more going on that just a fly by, pal.

They are already fully entrenched in govt affairs.

Littlebear
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LB posts: July 19th, 1953 visit to the HILL, I think there was more going on that just a fly by, pal.
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I can’t seem to find anything for UFO’s over the Hill (assuming you are referring to Washington D.C.) on 7-19-53
What I did find was this:
“July 19, 1953; Oak Ridge, Tenn. Black objects maneuvered over area near F-86.”

http://www.nicap.org/waves/1953fullrep.htm~rore

Or did you mean a ‘specific hill’ in Tenn.?

Of course, many of us here at AU are familiar with the famous UFO sightings over D.C. (The Hill) on July 19-20 1952. ~rore

This post has been edited by rorechof: Aug 11 2008, 03:02 PM

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WELL of course I meant 52, Sore-ie Rore, I did some back ground research to see if they happened
at a time that would have informed Ike or FDR and researched some more to the point that I
mised the YEAR of the event (alledged).
But I am glad I goofed and sent you on a wild goat chase cause you gave me more info
about other stuff.
Thanks Pal,

YES... the July 19-20 52 was ....mmm, incredible.

Littlebear
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Oak Ridge, <hmm, scratches chin> Ooooooak Reeeeedge. Seems I have heard that
name town somewhere. OH, Nukes.!!! OKAY, black obj.s over a nuclear r&d site. uh huh,
so should I NOT be making something of that?
Seems like it is indicative of ET interest in what we are going to do with our planet and
future survival.

LB
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LB posts: But I am glad I goofed and sent you on a wild goat chase cause you gave me more info
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No worries… Hardly a wild goat chase. A simple NICAP query.
Glad you got to learn more.

That’s what this site is about… Informing each other of accurate information so we can hopefully piece the puzzle together, or as much of it as we can.

The 1952 ’event’ of UFO’s over D.C. was definitely not an alleged event..
It happened with the media, Govt. and the citizens aware of the event, which does make it rather incredible.

To this day, there is no real consensus of what took place over D.C. on July 19-20 and July 26-27 1952. Two events within about a week of each other and shortly before the First Thermonuclear Bomb Test (Fusion Bomb). Pretty trippy, yep. ~rore

This post has been edited by rorechof: Aug 11 2008, 04:30 PM