The case for Billy Meier is NOT dead.
Many of you believe he was always a fraud and liar.
I believe the one armed man was the real deal, at least in the begining.

Here is the story:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2008/8/prweb1174744.htm

Your thoughts?

That is awesome. Hopefully this is only the beginning. I hope we soon get to see what really happened to the Phobos II spacecraft. There has always been something about the Billy Meier scenario, although sometimes his stories and evidences have been quacky. Keeping an all-sides-open approach, I have to say that even if there were abundant H2O on Mars, there would still have to be significant evidence of life before we go jumping to any conclusions. We will just have to see.

Well i for one still think he is a fraud and a liar...

wouldn't be the first person to guess the future and get it right though would he, i bet their are hundreds if not thousands of people who have done it, we will have to wait for the test results to come back anyway to find out if the test was flawed, as talked about Here

Arthur C Clarke and Issac Asimov being two.

The fact that water is on Mars has been known about for many years because polar ice caps are visible in telescopic views of the planet.

See here, for an example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mars%2C...e_Telescope.jpg

White polar ice caps doesn't mean they are water. You must be familiar with 'dry ice'? Frozen carbon dioxide.

Yeah, alright. But water ice clouds were observed in the Martian atmosphere several years ago and many scientists felt that the geological features on Mars were explained by liquid water erosion since at least the Viking probe. Scientific speculation about water on Mars has been around since at least the 19th century. It does not say anything much about Meier's experiences if he claimed that there was water on Mars 32 years ago, he could just have read some popular science books.

Meier has too many strikes against him for me to consider his claims as being a chosen contactee with multiple contacts as true.

About the water on Mars thing: The first time I viewed Mars through a large telescope, the Polar region was in full bloom; Big Ice Cap.

Knowing that it was considered to be all CO2, I couldn’t help but think there must be water there too.
It was a niggling feeling that felt ‘right’ and I just believed it.
The difference between BM and I is this: BM said he was told by Aliens and I was ‘told’ by a ‘gut feeling’.
Nice pic Andrew.

Here’s something that caught my eye:
Space Today:
“The NASA orbiter 2001 Mars Odyssey, searching for water ice beneath the surface, reported that in the regions of the planet north and south of 60 degrees latitude, the surface is well over 50 percent water ice by volume.”

“If it were to melt, along with some water frozen in the Martian soil, the liquid water might be enough to form an ocean several miles deep on the low-lying northern hemisphere.” WOW
More @ http://www.spacetoday.org/SolSys/Mars/Mars...et/MarsIce.html

“Odyssey's neutron and gamma-ray sensors have tracked seasonal changes as layers of "dry ice" (carbon-dioxide frost or snow) accumulate during northern Mars' winter and then dissipate in the spring, exposing a soil layer rich in water ice-- the martian counterpart to permafrost.” More @ ~rore
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/odyssey/newsroom/.../20030626a.html

This post has been edited by rorechof: Aug 10 2008, 10:50 AM

Well then, someday, we can count on Mars being teraformed.

Even a broken clock is right two times a day.

SD posts: Well then, someday, we can count on Mars being teraformed.
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My thoughts exactly SD!!! (Well, if not exactly a complete transformation, at least a viable Planet to colonize…)

It looks like there is definitely enough water for our needs!

First the Moon. Then… On To Mars! I hope I’m around when this occurs!…lol ~rore

This post has been edited by rorechof: Aug 11 2008, 12:52 AM