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KelliAli627
post Jul 2 2004, 03:51 PM
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Fireworks Give Chance to Blow Up Bin Laden
By JOSEFINA LOZA

PLATTSMOUTH, Neb. (AP) - Some Americans this Fourth of July plan to get a bang out of blowing Osama bin Laden's head off. The bin Laden Noggin, a cone-shaped pyrotechnic device with a cartoon of bin Laden's face, has been a hot seller at some fireworks stores around the country. When lit, the bin Laden cone erupts in blood-red flames and screeches for 60 seconds. Two shots blow his head off.

It is part of an Exploding Terrorists Heads four-pack that also includes Saddam Hussein, Yasser Arafat and Moammar Gadhafi.

Another hot seller in some places: Game Over, a package of three artillery shots decorated like bin Laden, Saddam and Gadhafi in striped jail uniforms.

Both sets of fireworks are made in China.


Suzi Hoffman, whose husband returned home in May after spending eight months working as an electrician in Baghdad, got a kick out of the terrorists' heads while shopping for fireworks in suburban Omaha.


``I thought they should have shot Saddam in the head when they found him,'' she said. ``So, this is a great way to get your aggression out.''


Lisa Myer of Papillion was appalled when she heard about the fireworks while shopping for smoke bombs and sparklers for her son.


``What are we trying to teach our children?'' she asked.
-Source, AOL news

*I thought it would be a nice read. :laugh:
Funny how now adays things work rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 2 2004, 03:51 PM
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post Jul 2 2004, 04:39 PM
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I think its pretty grotesque really...rather see these guys caught and tried and jailed than blown to pieces...however evil thier crimes.

Opal Princess....Yes I know its just fireworks ..but the pictures in my head are now gross!!!!!!!!
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post Jul 2 2004, 08:35 PM
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hahaha. lol. Its just little firwork toy thingys. Yeah I agree, they should be caught tried and tortured. Then go on a tour of america, and shown all the videos of bad hes done. Osama is PURE evil
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post Jul 2 2004, 09:01 PM
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PLATTSMOUTH, Neb. (AP) - Some Americans this Fourth of July plan to get a bang out of blowing Osama bin Laden's head off. The bin Laden Noggin, a cone-shaped pyrotechnic device with a cartoon of bin Laden's face, has been a hot seller at some fireworks stores around the country. When lit, the bin Laden cone erupts in blood-red flames and screeches for 60 seconds. Two shots blow his head off.


I'm gunna be a real stick in the mud here and get on my moral hight horse... Personally, I reckon that's disgusting... All it does is promote a violence by proxy and is telling young impressionable kids and adults too.... that it's ok to blow up people even if they are merely represented as a firework.... Looking at it the other way around... don't people get upset in America when some countries make effigies of their president and burn them in anger and retaliation... Are not these types of fireworks doing the same thing?

Mumblings in the dog brain wondering what happened to good old clean fun during a celebration...... just letting off a few pretty fireworks for sheer pleasure and enjoyment instead of as a show of political revenge... rolleyes.gif

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post Jul 3 2004, 01:13 AM
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hahaha. lol. Its just little firwork toy thingys. Yeah I agree, they should be caught tried and tortured. Then go on a tour of america, and shown all the videos of bad hes done. Osama is PURE evil


Oh it's a tough call Kelli but I think I'm with you on that one! IF OSAMA WAS BEHIND 9/11!!!

However I don't think we should be 'revelling in it' as Dingo and Opal say as it sends out the wrong signals. I know you did not suggest that these fireworks were a good thing and put both sides of the argument but I'm in the same camp as Dingo and Opal. Bad thing. (Not often I agree with the Dog Breath but aint life funny nowadays?)

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post Jul 3 2004, 01:52 AM
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uhm.. Im going to NOT get on a moral high horse. There is 'evil'..or certainly badness that is a danger to you way of life.. and there are values that if they prevailed would destroy you.. and to counter that society has to put in its people the sense that their way of life is worth protecting..and little things like this, add to that. Im sorry that its so 'un PC' to believe that ones own culture has merit and is preferable to another..but I think mankind is far better off that Mr. bin Ladens views dont prevail..
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post Jul 3 2004, 02:26 AM
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I certainly agree people like bin Laden are evil and the world has no place for them.... But to me... by enacting out similar behaviour to that of the terrorist supporters... them burning an effigy of the American president in public... And now the Americans letting off fireworks in the image of known terrorits and blowing their heads off... It is a lowering of oneself to the same standards and ways of the terrorist supporters... maybe to some that's ok and they don't see it like this... After all... we all do have our own perceptions of events too...

But regardless of the fact that bin Laden has to go... I still see no point in encouraging this type of behaviour as one day it could translate in a child's mind, that it's ok to blow away any adversary who gets in their way... keeping in mind, that probably some of the children who will be blowing bin Laden's firework head off will have little understanding of the situation because of their age... and thus very easily misunderstand the process... I would have thought there was enough blowing up of people's heads up in both media and films already, without having to encourage it during a celebration...

Just my two bobs worth... I'm not American so I suppose it's easy for me to say that....

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post Jul 3 2004, 08:59 PM
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I think its a dumb thing. But you know alot of people get kicks out of it.

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post Jul 3 2004, 09:13 PM
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Got agree with Vetamur and Dingo here..Osama does not deserve to be free he should not be free, caught tried and jailed...preferably somewhere where the death penalty does not exist, I can't think of much worse than having him made into a martyer...And thinking about it I remember the news when they were burning effergie of Bush....it didn't go down well in the states, not one little bit...hatred breeds more hatred...lock the guy up and throw away the key don't exasapate a bad situation by blowing up fireworks in his image its the kind of thing that might just explode in your face
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post Jul 4 2004, 04:09 AM
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I have to agree with Dingo too. It reeks of double standards and is encouraging a gung ho attitude for youngsters for the future.
Also it could cause anger with saddams supporters and cause more hatred towards the Americans and their forces...not a good thing to be honest in my oppinion.
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post Jul 4 2004, 07:13 AM
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Look people its not an academic issue. Its socialization of people. Society has enemies and youre not going to have a whole society of Gandhis believing you should turn the other cheek. IF WE DID want to get academic we could just as much argue that its a release mechanism, a way to displace anger so that it doesnt build up. A guy comes along, helps people pull of 9/11 and all kinds of things before and after.. it changed the world, changed peoples freedoms.. and some people are pissed off about it. Now rather than have them seeth and seeth...rather than let them just get pissed off in general, drink too much and start hitting their kids, wives, whatever.. maybe its better to let them imagine that they are blowing up the guy responsible. Its FANTASY. Fantasy is important.
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post Jul 4 2004, 07:16 AM
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Totally agree with you Vetamur. Fantasy is very important!! In more than one issue as well!!! Yup. I agree!!

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post Jul 4 2004, 03:15 PM
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look..I've done a few things in the past...like happily depositing all my ex's underwear in the fireplace and sitting them alight...or in the case of another ex telling all his boys that he was a true 'minute man'...vindictive perhaps...harmless yes and I laughed my ass off while doing it...its just like Vet said..letting off steam in a harmless manner...mind you my ex was not in his underwear when I burned them biggrin.gif
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post Jul 4 2004, 03:37 PM
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I do understand about letting off steam...cripes I yelled at my hubby tonight for taking the toolbox with him on his travels and leaving me to unscrew the door lock that my 4 year old busted with a SPOON!!!!!! Oh yes I let off steam. biggrin.gif

I just think that something of the nature of using politics and leaders..good or bad is not portraying the right message and could cause problems in the long run.

A couple of years ago in this country mobs of people..parents.. took their children around suspected peadophiles homes and got them to hurl profanic abuse. Yes.. a peadophile should be outed.. but to tell your child it is okay to swear and cuss and throw bricks at windows is wrong.
It breeds a generation of yobs who think it is okay to take their frustrations out on others. Mob mentality ....and it is wrong.

Lock osama up saddam too, let them be tried by their own countries(or America with osama) Give saddam the death penalty if Iraq so decrees.
There is a case for fantasizing.....but in a healthy way and I don't think this type of thing bodes well for America or it's troops.
Sorry...but it is how I feel and I don't wish to offend...
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post Jul 4 2004, 03:50 PM
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No offense, Darla wink.gif But y'know, I dont think that this is an American thing, this vindictive mentality, I think it's present everywhere.

I'm a little dismayed that for all the people on this forum...from all different nations, it seems...that there are so many threads concerning America and what does or doesnt do...I mean everyday there is a new thread about America...what about France, England, Spain, China, Japan and so on...?
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post Jul 4 2004, 04:16 PM
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Sorry hun...I was just replying to the topic and it was related to America. I have nothing against americans or most countries. It is just those that run those countries.

Tony Blair is not my favourite of prime ministers and to be honest I don't agree with most of his policies or the hot air he blows and never delivers.
I am not a fan of President Bush(sorry sad.gif).. his leadership leaves a lot to be desired.
I believe that most leaders who strive for power want to change things, but when they get to the top it is fraught with difficulties and absolute power does corrupt in most cases.
There are so many countries in this world that have their inhabitants suffering at the mercy of those in power....China and it's one child per family policy. Children..newborns left in the street to die because they are girls and not boys. A young two year old drowned brutally because the parents had allready lost one child and dared to have another...The chinese military came into this farmers land and killed the baby because they had two kids..even though the first had died.
Families in vietnam having to live in the jungle and live on bark cut and mulched and boiled so they won't get poisoned.. shot at in the jungle kids of five....just because their grandparents supported the americans in the vietnam war.(Luckily this has been looked into and these families are being sorted out) Good on the American government.

Nowhere is a perfect society. We all have negatives.
I sit in my house with a roof over my head..my children safe from guns and war...food in their bellies..me smoking a cigg.
I am the lucky one...my kids don't have to forage for food or be frightened of being shot at if they cross a peice of land that is not thiers(Isreal).

The world is not a perfect place, but I think thought and consideration for those who face horrors everyday...wether black...white...jew..palestinian....Iraqi..etc..Western troops in occupied territory goes along way.

The world needs to be a better place.....Sometimes I just don't know how I can help..and that is the crime.....my helplessness.
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post Jul 4 2004, 04:35 PM
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Oh, Darla, I knew that you weren't bashing Americans...I didnt mean it like that...I meant that this forum has a disportionate number of threads on America versus other countries and that says something...um not good, I think sad.gif
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post Jul 4 2004, 05:24 PM
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I know you didn't mean it in that way:)

There are other countries that have leaders that give their subjects no rights. Many who have no rights whatsoever, no lives.
Most peeps who you or I speak too on the internet arefrom the west, europe or other countries who aren't monitored heavily by the state...who have moneyand freedom of sorts. There are those trapped in poverty who can't afford a computor who would love to tell their side of the story and not wait for a camera crew to come into their homes and relay their plights.

I suppose because America and England are heavy in the news at present, then we are coming out as the dictators who want to rule. But we both have the interests of our countries and maintining safety and progress...we want to look after ourselves(government at least).
It is just the way a country goes about looking after it's own interests and no country is infallible.

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post Jul 4 2004, 05:42 PM
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Darla...point taken smile.gif (((Darla)))
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I think this is the most best idea ever
In fact im going to go buy one of these later today since its morning
I mean I just want to kill Osama even if its just a firework
I mean think of what happened on 9/11
He really killed 4000 people
An im not killing him im just going to blow his head off with a harmless firework
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