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Mar 7 2005, 08:41 PM
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The Lectures of Alex Collier
I want to share this in an attempt to try to bring some truth to the matter we all seem to have a shared interest in. I have already told many of my stories here and most of you know what I am about. I have also stated here that I am an ardent skeptic about many things and because of this fact, I feel I have steered a fairly straight course with my own cosmic view. I owe this, in part, to my ability to recognize BS when I see it. One of the things that has always bothered me about the hypothesis of our planet being visited by a multitude of extraterrestrial intelligences is the lack of any sort of documentation as to the source of all these ideas. So I have decided to find them and share with you all, the results. I am starting with Alex Collier because he is one of the more vocal and well known advocates of the multi-ET hypothesis. He has many followers (although most don't even know it) At the link above, you will find his "lectures" on the topic. They were written in the early 90s. Here are a few choice selections from the first of Colliers lectures.... "They say that our universe, which consists of everything that we do and don’t know about, is a 21 trillion year-old hologram." " Now, our government, the United States government, the New World Order - whatever you want to call it - wants to implant everybody." "In Westchester County, New York, over 5,000 childern have vanished without a trace over the last three years. The government knows what is going on but they are helpless to do anything about it. The reason they don’t want to bring it up is because they let the bastards in here in the first place. They cut a deal. " "Our moon, according to the Andromedans, is an artificial satellite. I will tell you that a lot of people are working on this. Two years ago, I sat in a room with Richard Hoagland and asked him, “why don’t you tell the people that the moon is an artificial satellite?”. Richard Hoagland replied, “I’m not ready.” See, he knows." "Our moon now is colonized. I am told by Moraney that there is a full time working population on the moon of 35,000 people, and that they are all Ari-ans by birth. I’ll let you figure out the implications of that yourself. There are no blacks, Chinese, Hispanics, Korean, Japanese, Italians ... they are all Ari-ans by birth." "According to Moranae, Hale Bopp is a protocol ship from Orion. It has four spiral structures on it, and it carries two moons behind it. When it enters our solar system in 1997, the two moons will go into orbit with mercury, and our government is going to make a “They’re Here” public announcement." "The politicians are selling us out. We are talking about the “BioDiversity Program”. I want to read two lines to you from this “Protecting Yellowstone” piece. They say, “ in the UN Global Biodiversity Assessment vision of reality, human beings are just one strand in nature’s web, having no more rights that any other creature”. AC - Does that sound like a human being wrote that? Now think about that. It says that a human being has no more rights than any other creature. Now, its one thing to live in harmony, but are you going to tell me that an ant or cockroach has the same consciousness as you and I? No. But, they want to lump us all together. What is wrong with this picture? " (Cowbells note: Apparently Mr. Colliers "friends" don't want us "lumped" together. You'll notice that the moon is "Whites Only") "AC - We received a tape that talks about the Gunderson Railroad Company in Oregon getting a contract to build 107,200 railroad cars that have 143 sets of shackles in each one. I have done some checking, and it’s an absolute reality. So, they intend on transporting 15,000,000 people in these train cars. What’s wrong with this picture? This is the United States. You have to end the denial. If you believe nothing else about the ET’s, and I am telling you with all of my heart, they are behind all of this." I could go on here but won't...for now. Read it for yourself. I am sorry for those who fall for this kind of thing but understand the need to find some sense in the matter. Unfortunately, that sense won't be found in the words or ideas of Alex Collier. What you will find is paranoia, delusion, and rascism. |
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Mar 7 2005, 08:41 PM
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Mar 7 2005, 08:51 PM
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what makes you so sure ?
-------------------- Whoever said anything was possible, obviouly never tried slamming a revolving door.
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Mar 7 2005, 09:13 PM
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(cricket) what makes you so sure ?
Your a fast reader Cricket. You read the lectures then? How many of Mr. Colliers predictions have come to pass? Call it a gut feeling...or better yet, the aliens told me so. If it's good enough for Alex, it's good enough for me. It's also possible I'm being just being provocative.......
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Mar 7 2005, 11:16 PM
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So what we're in the 3rd or 4th density??
I don't know how many prediction came to pass, I've only read the first lecture. Very interesting though. |
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Mar 8 2005, 12:23 AM
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A little more on Alex Collier and "Val Valerian"
"Val Valerian, who wrote the report, is a pseudonym for John Grace (7)(last known rank of Captain in 1992) of the Counter Intelligence Division of Air Intelligence of the United States Air Force. Captain John Grace and John O. Lear (lifetime CIA pilot and operative) wrote the books, "The Matrix", "Matrix 2", "Matrix 3", and any subsequent volumes(8). They were undoubtedly paid a huge sum for the movie rights." Grace and Lear have admitted to creating the forged “KRYLL” documents, purportedly describing an alien being held by the US government(9). This establishes that Captain John Grace of the Counter Intelligence Division of Air Intelligence of the United States Air Force has participated in this type of hoax before. It appears that, despite no evidence of either aliens or harmful substances being present within contrails, Captain John Grace and others appear to be steering the contrails controversy towards a confluence with their “alien/UFO” hypothesis. This joining together of two false “threats” could be a means of fomenting panic and disarray among the people. The information in Captain Grace’s report was found to be inaccurate, incorrect, and has been altered to a great extent since my inquiry four days after it’s issue. These facts alone do not make it false, but it’s credibility considering it's author's history of Air Force Counter Intelligence hoax activity is now highly questionable. Without corroborating evidence or documentation, it cannot be considered valid at this time. http://www.goodsky.homestead.com/files/deception2.html The KRYLL Documents Might they also be involved in the "Dulce" documents as well? No doubt. Now what, you may ask, could possibly be the motive behind all of these stories. Well, just visit the book order page at http://www.trufax.org/books/orderformus.html It will only cost you $296.46 to find out. That is what the "Matrix" series will cost you. This doesn't even include the first book in the series. It will run you another $74.00 for the Matrix posters. They are only $37.00 each. You could drop (or make) a bundle visiting (or creating) a site like this. You'll even find another article by Mr. Valerian on the evils of flouridation. $26.00 takes it. I have yet to explore the connection between Collier, Chase, Lear and Cooper, but I assure you I will. These guys have laughed all the way to the bank for years.....and have helped create a society whereby many good people who have had true experiences with offworld beings, and a strong desire to share their stories, are rolled up into the same ball of wax with the likes of these men. The fringe, the "UFO nuts" and all the other "lunatics". Just what the government ordered........ The saddest thing about it is that many good men and women have devoted thier lives to doing honest research in a vain but honest attempt to enlighten themselves and the rest of us. Take a guy like Dick Hall, probably considered the pre-eminent ufologist on the planet. He is broke and is ready to just give up. Many others are feeling the same. Why? Because as long as fabrications like these continue to be disseminated and beleived by the people, no one will ever be able to see the truth, whatever that may be. Thanks Salla, Greer, Collier, Cooper, Lear, Valerian or whatever TF your name is, and all the rest. Assholes :mad: Posted in honor of Richard Hall. |
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Mar 8 2005, 12:45 AM
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Cosmic Cowbell
I am sorry for those who fall for this kind of thing but understand the need to find some sense in the matter. Unfortunately, that sense won't be found in the words or ideas of Alex Collier. What you will find is paranoia, delusion, and rascism. Gulp... geez... certainly sounds racist what you quoted here... Paranoid... for sure... There seems to such grose exageration and misrepresentation about some of this alien and UFO thing that it's little wonder the more gullable... the more easily influenced type people finds it hard to discern what they read.... and believe everything and seem to get quite distressed and confused... It's like a disease.... I think another problem is... some people love the limelight... like the kudos which comes with 'being' of and 'knowing' something different to others and get off on it... Love duping people and then having a laugh at them... So they write about their ideas and beliefs and delusions and 'experiences' as if that is a fact... And some sure do make big money out of their fibs... It actually makes it all the more harder for the genuine person who strives to know what is real and what isn't.... Smears the whole deal and paints it in a bad light... Bummer deal really... I haven't read the lectures except for the starting to read one of them and as time permits I might just persue through this... But strewth... sheesh... lol... yeah well.... Sure, for sure, for some it helps to make sense of this... So the implication is that the ET's are racist to boot? I had this completed but not posted... forgot to... lol... it was sitting on post preview... duh.... before I read that post of yours you just posted now... I agree..... complete fooken arseholes and jerks and bullshitters and I have to keep my mouth shut lest foot in mouth renders me saying stuff which isn't very becoming and would make a hard worn warfie blush... ... I don't wanna get banned you know... lol... Dingo . |
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Mar 8 2005, 01:24 AM
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Alex Collier has always been far beyond even the lunatic fringe. It wouldn't surprise me that he could be one of those lovely government misinformation people that when he opens his mouth or writes anything it always gives true UFO researchers and abductees lumped in with him and causes everyone else to think we are all crazies like him. Hmmmm.....sounds like I got my own conspiracy theory going here, huh?
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Mar 8 2005, 01:29 AM
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Cosmic I think it is commendable that you put up these ideas of Mr Colliers thus enabling us to shoot them down. The man obviously has an agenda and it's one to which I hope no sane, right thinking person would ever subscribe to. Just a pity that idiots like him infest this field of investigation.
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Mar 8 2005, 03:25 AM
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Seems his stories are no more fanciful than any of the others out there. And when the truth is finally known, will it be any less strange than the imagination of idiots?
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Mar 8 2005, 08:05 PM
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yea this isn't anything new ive been quoting alot of his material in the forums since i started,although i do believe in some of the material contained in his books,videos etc..(which i have) he has possibly plaigarised the work of others,and that he is no genuine contactee,his story is also freakishly similar to billy meiers tale,infact alex collier isn't his real name apparently,he changed it,dunno what it is off the top of my head,only his first name was givin,anyway ive emailed alex collier myself...so ive goen to the horses mouth
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