Today I was reading the news and I found a story wich says that in Ohio the bird goes crazy and start to attack people...
see the story here http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/attacking_grackles

And I have to think again in the Global Warming. Few weeks ago here in my country ten dogs goes crazy too and killed a little 5 years old kid. A few days ago another volcano in the Galapagos islands erupts...last year was Moserrat again and St. Helenas....last eyar earthquakes gone mad too...still remeber the tsunami don't you?...well months later another earthquake hits near the ephicentre of the tsunami and many more had ocurred this year. Go see the info I have...

http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0409/feature1/
http://news.bbc.co.uk./ilhi/sci/tech/4495463.stm

dont forget the unusual shark swarm off the Gulf of Mexico a few years back...very odd indeed.

oddiovity
Today I was reading the news and I found a story wich says that in Ohio the bird goes crazy and start to attack people...
see the story here http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/attacking_grackles

Nothing unusual about that type of behaviour with birds attacking people, especially their heads... It even says in the article that the birds are protecting their offspring... their babies..... usually happens in Spring.... All it means is that the birds have built their nests close by where people walk daily and now that the baby birds have hatched and are still young and unable to fly and protect themselves, the adult parent birds will attack anyone who they think walks too close past their nets...

Happens like that here in Australia regularly... We have magpies who will do that every year and terrorise people.... These magpies will also go for you eyes... I remember as a kid having to walk past such a nest to and from school every day one year and they would attack no matter what side of the street you walked down... Used to hold my schoolbag on top of my head when I walked past... Newspapers, anything people could think of are used as a head shields when that happens...

Dingo
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That about the sharks I did not know it? And what about the ten dogs that killed a kid on the streets and the hurricane that hit Brazil three or four years ago?

But read the links...there are the explanations to these animals behavior and the changes in the weather....how many tornadoes hit US last year....how many in one day?

What about the war with Iraq or the high price of gas?? Anything else we can blame on global warming??

Did we forget that it is perfectly natural and the earth did it long before we were here?

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/gene..._001110_wg.html
http://www.sepp.org/NewSEPP/gwisgood.htm
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a16387.htm

[QUOTE=Gold_Grill]What about the war with Iraq or the high price of gas?? Anything else we can blame on global warming?? [QUOTE]

The war is made by men but the real cause of the global warming is the "green house" effect...and humans are helping to bring the next ice age more faster that the normal....the carbon dioxide CO2 that cars and other motorised inventions by men are increasing these effects. Please read the links I left.


[QUOTE]Did we forget that it is perfectly natural and the earth did it long before we were here?
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Of course it is a natural thing but what I am trying to say is that humans activities are increasing the possibilities of a next ice age. Desafortunatly we weren't there to know why it happened a lot times....and we don't have much information about it but we do have some theories of why it could had happen. It suppose to pass some thousand of years and this time is passing at an alarming step and some experts said that they hope the next will pass before the end of this century. For more info of this go to www.globalwarming.org

Here are some theories of why it happened in the past.
http://www.museum.state.il.us/exhibits/ice...ol_periods.html
1.changin continental positions
2.uplift of continental blocks
3.reduction of CO2 in the atmosphere
4.changes in the earth orbit
5.etc

Thanks for the links.

oddiovity
And what about the ten dogs that killed a kid on the streets

Also not unusual as far as dog behaviour goes and certainly nothing to do with global warming... The dog is a desendent from the wolf and is by nature a pack animal... When a group of dogs, no matter how domesticated you may think the dogs are, gets together, especially if they do this quite regularly, they form a pack with alpha, beta dog etc... each dog taking it's place within the pack... In fact, they don't even have to know each other to do this through instinct...

They roam the streets looking for things to do... sometimes that can mean trouble... And it's reverting back to instinct to make a killing as a pack and once one goes for it the rest follow... No matter how domesticated a dog is, underneath it all lies some wolf like instincts waiting for a chance to emerge and the right circumstances can bring these out.... That's one reason why in many countries it is illegal to let your dog(s) roam the streets... Even a lone dog can kill a person...

And no matter how smoochy and cute and loyal a person's pet dog is... all dogs have the potential to kill, be it to kill a person or a chicken or a cat... Even a little ratter dog, a foxie terrier is known to kill a baby out of jealousy. A dog sees the family he lives with as the pack.... When a new baby arrives the dog is automatically demoted one step down and the new baby is entering in the pack (family) as a higher ranking member.... And some dogs don't like being displaced like that... Especially more so a dog whose natural instinct and personality is of an alpha type...

Dingo
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Thanks for that info...is appreciated...but is the first time that something like that occurs here in my country....dogs are very loved here and we never had a case like that before specially with a kid.

It has nothing to do with how much a dog is loved by a human... It's all about the instincts all dogs have which can be activated in the right circumstances...

Dingo
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I am learning new things today thanks to you...I did not know dogs arhave killer instics... the little ones like chiwawas and shitzu too? ... so cats can kill too like lions...tigers and others?

All dogs do, as they evolved from Wolves, apparently.

My cat often catches ferrets, rabbits and things like that, most of the time he doesn't even eat them

Animal attacks, earthquakes and tsunamis have absolutely nothing to do with supposed anthropogenic climate change.

Oddiovity, a dog is dog, be it a small or a big breed... A foxie terrier can be smaller or similar size to a shitzu and they have been known to kill a baby... The small dogs will never make the impact on a human adult like a large dog will only because of their size... But most dogs won't ever kill or bite a human even if they do kill rabbits etc.... Even so, a healthy respect for all dogs is in order especially where very young children are concerned...

Cats aren't so innocent either and have been known to kill small native rodents and animals and birds... I don't know of a cat which has killed a human but I do know that a cat loves sleeping in warm places...It's said to never to let a cat sleep in the same room as a newborn baby because sometimes a cat will sleep near the baby's face because the baby's breath is warm and it can suffocate a baby by sleeping against the baby's nose... How true or untrue that is I don't know.... ?

The animal world is a truely fascinating world...

Dingo
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If you read the links I posted before maybe you will change your mind but by now I'll tell you this...one of the last ice ages starts with a great eartquake that separates all continents and before this earthquake smaller ones had ocurred...so I think it has to be with and more now that the last december earthquake affects the orbit of the earth. And about the animals attact in no part I mentioned that is cause of the climate changes...just say that makes me think about it.

I said they had nothing to do with global warming that is supposedly anthropogenic in origin. The links you posted do not contradict this statement. They also say nothing of animal attacks being caused by climate change.

But which way around is it? You seem confused. The topic header says basically "we are responsible" (to put it into legible English). But now you are claiming that earthquakes are responsible? The only way these two statements are reconcilible is if you are suggesting that humans also cause earthquakes. Something not supported by accepted science; not even by eco quacks who espouse the anthropogenic global warming hypothesis. Earthquakes can have an effect on the earth's orientation and angular velocity, but the effect is so slight that there can be no measurable effect on climate.

No, the cause I was alluding to was humans--I mentioned anthropogenic global warming. It seemed that you were implying that the behaviour of the animals is due to global warming, which is due to humans, and hence the attacks are ultimately due to human actions. It is rather unparsimonious to be invoking global warming when such attacks occur frequently, regardless of climate.

I am sorry that you misundertood me...I can understand that, english is not my first language, but I posted this thread here because I want your opinions and learn about them.

Thanks.

Dingo, I agree with everything you say in this thread. I have a maltese and would not trust her alone with a small child or baby, she can be very vicious to my cat and I know she could cause harm to a child. Its true about the cats sitting on babies too, we had a pregnant cat when my bro was still in a basinet and she decided that his basinet would be the perfect place to have her kittens and sat on top of him to get comfortable, lucky we found out straight away and moved her, he could have suffocated.

Oh, I remember having to walk through an almond grove when I was a kid and every spring have maggies attacking us, it was terrifying LOL.

So what is it exactly that humans are culpable for in all this?

Never really liked cats, dogs are more contained.Cats are so much harder to stop from killing wildlife. I used to hate it when my mates would all go out shooting and skinning cats, Id much prefer to either go fishing or snorkelling for enjoyment, atleast I could eat my catch. I didn't ever want to risk miximatoses by eating any wild rabbits, and cats? eighewe, talk about stink, I thought my mates were sick, but now as an adult, I realise I was just an ignorant city slicker who had no idea on what impact these wild cats and rabbits were doing to our native fauna. I myself have cats, I love it when they kill wild mice and rats, but get very emotional and angry when I see them killing small lizards and birds. I also have a Western Pogoda Minor Minor, Bearded Dragon. And realise how terribly fragile they are in comparison to a cat. But have noticed people are much more wary of him, even though I inform them he has been raised in captivity and is harmless. A cat has deadly instincts and knows he/she could easily overcome such a small reptile. There really is no place in Australia, bar the cat haven for cats or kittens but Id find it very hard to get rid of my own.

Since global warming is a topic that concerns everyone I decided to fix all the mess I made here in this thread. I want to apologize for all those errors. First of all want to let you know that the title is a question...my first error...I forgot the question mark.

When I mentioned the part of the animals I wanted to let you know that those behaviors made me think about the global warming and in the possibility of that it could has to be with global warming....but that is why I posted this thread....for the people who has information make it clear right here.

The reasons for why I think we could be the reponsible for actual global warming (not of the ones that have occured in the past) are this...
http://www.science-spirit.org/archive_cm_d....php?new_id=291

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6334


Here are information about how global warming is affecting the ecosistems, sea levels, temperatures...etc. The global warming are affecting animals but not in the way I thought...see the information here... http://www.climatehotmap.org/newpoints.html


Also I have other question...The incresing of earthquakes has to do with the global warming?

Times are getting hotter every year and if you stand outside your house in a hot day your behavior could change...you could get mad...the high temperatures can affect animals behavior too?

Thanks for your patience and I aphologize if you find another errors again. I will appreciate if you let me know. I am human & humans do make mistakes.

With love I made this & the important thing is that everybody learns something from this.

oddiovity